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NFL sports agents accuse Saban of paying players at Alabama and MSU

Kind of a strange story, but Pittsburgh NFL sports agent Ralph Cindrich has accused Nick Saban cheating and paying players. Claims he has proof but offered no evidence in the interview. The weird part is how he brought this up in a discussion about Penn State. The agent is Pennsylvania native but a Pitt grad so no real strong ties to Penn State either.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/07/pittsburgh_sports_agent_accuse.html

The kicker is Alabama fans have been attacking him on his twitter, and Josh Luchs joined into the fray:

josh Luchs ‏@Joshluchs

@RalphCindrich Good advice Ralph. Mine extend beyond Bama.

josh Luchs ‏@Joshluchs

@RalphCindrich Yep. Saban was HC at MSU when Doc & I were bankrolling T. Banks and others.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:10 PM | It wouldn't surprise me if it (Score:5 Normal)
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It wouldn't surprise me if it were true, but I'm not jumping to any conclusions until I see evidence.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:12 PM | It was covered here a couple (Score:4 Normal)
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It was covered here a couple days ago, too. 

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-everyone-has-something-nick-saban-paying-players

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | Missed that one. Sorry about that. (Score:5 Normal)
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But the Michigan State part is a new development, although Luchs had revealed in the past that he had paid Banks.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:23 PM | I wish they could prove (Score:2 Normal)
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I wish they could prove this.  I would be happy to see Bama and MSU get sanctions.

903 wins most in college football

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | I don't think MSU would get (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think MSU would get sanctioned.  Saban's been gone from there for 13 years.  

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July 29th, 2012 at 9:02 PM | But Dantonio was. (Score:1)
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He was Saban's DB coach.

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July 29th, 2012 at 9:36 PM | And if he paid players... (Score:1)
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...it couldn't have been much more than minimum wage.  

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:31 PM | This isn't news until ESPN (Score:5 Normal)
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This isn't news until ESPN airs it.

Touchdown Michigan!

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:47 PM | and ESPN will involve Lebron (Score:5 Normal)
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and ESPN will involve Lebron James and the Miami Heat into this...or possibly Tim Tebow...somehow

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | And more recently, "PEYTON (Score:4 Normal)
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And more recently, "PEYTON WAW-TCH!"

"Welllllllll..."

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:32 PM | Wellll since it was covered. (Score:5 Normal)
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Some LSUfreek Gif's on St Nick.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Quite (Score:1)
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possibly the funniest gifs I've ever seen! I can't stop laughing and my eyes are watering. Pure genius.

 

 

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | >LSUFreek (Score:5 Normal)
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is talented, no doubt.  Here are a couple of my favorites......

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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July 29th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | The Zoolander one will never be topped. (Score:3 Normal)
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So much attention to detail.  Notice how each of the outfits already match the correct team colors.  Priceless.

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July 29th, 2012 at 11:01 PM | who's the guy in jail (Score:1)
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awesome gifs

...just one man's opinion.

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:34 PM | Obviously no one would be (Score:1)
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Obviously no one would be surprised if this is true, but I always wonder what the ulterior motive is when you throw out a claim like that then offer nothing as evidence to support it. Like this board says, proof or it didn't happen.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | Should I know about this Josh (Score:2)
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Should I know about this Josh Luchs guy?

Greetings from Bolivia.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | He wrote a mildly interesting (Score:2)
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He wrote a mildly interesting tell-all book about the seedy life of a sports agent, most notable for its amusing Maurice Clarette stories.

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | We all know it's obviously (Score:5 Normal)
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We all know it's obviously true, but even with proof, what is the NCAA going to do to him? Take away 10 scholarships over 5 years? One year bowl ban? A severe finger-wagging?

 

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | Hey (Score:5 Normal)
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A finger wagging from Babu is pretty harsh.

"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"

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July 29th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Vedy bad man. (Score:3 Normal)
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Vedy bad man.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | This. (Score:-1 Redundant)
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This.

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | Years ago I spoke with a player (Score:5 Normal)
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Probably around 2001 I was at a party in Detroit.  A lot of people were there and I ended up talking to a former Spartan wide reciever.  We talked for a while and he told me that when he was playing there (under Saban), he'd find an envelope inside his locker every week with a few hundred dollars enclosed.  "and I was only third string, imagine what the starters got", he said.  

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July 29th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | What a coincidence, I accuse (Score:5 Normal)
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What a coincidence, I accuse Nick Saban of paying players while at MSU and Alabama too. That's crazy....

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | you're an internet commenter now (Score:5 Normal)
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You're not allowed to believe in coincidence.

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | I just got out of Batman ten (Score:3 Normal)
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I just got out of Batman ten minutes ago (i know, i know, late to the party) and that made me lol.

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:11 PM | SMH (Score:-1 Overrated)
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So basically he brought those national championships

GO BLUE!

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | as opposed (Score:5 Normal)
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to leaving them where they were?

On the fifth night—possibly the sixth—a breeze arose.
It was cool and dewy.

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | Apparently (Score:4 Normal)
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They were already broughten.

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | . (Score:3 Normal)
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J'accuse!

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:25 PM | What does this say about the NCAA? (Score:2 Normal)
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Weve known this has been going on with Bama and Saban  AND the SEC FOR YEARS....theres been ALOT of smoke throughout the years regarding Saban and Illegal recruiting..Theres gotta be some Fire there..YET....years later the NCAA is clueless?   Why are they AWAYS the last ones to know?

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July 29th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Because they want to be. The (Score:2 Normal)
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Because they want to be. The SEC is a huge cog in the NCAA exlploitation-money wheel.

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July 30th, 2012 at 2:26 AM | Absolutely right (Score:2)
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The NCAA has little real power because no actual laws are being broken. It's not illegal to pay Cam Newton hundreds of thousands of dollars or to pay a coach to "buy" a player (something that Bama almost got the DP for), just unethical.



Major NCAA scandals almost always occurs when the law is broken and law enforcement gets involved. This has been true in the Ed Martin situation, the OSU situation, the USC situation (remember, Bush's benefactor was suing) and virtually everything else.



Note that the quoted agent says the players he knows would talk "under oath." No oath and they say nothing. And the $EC continues to cheat.

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:06 PM | (No subject) (Score:3 Normal)
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July 29th, 2012 at 5:47 PM | So many programs have had (Score:1)
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So many programs have had similar aligations, nothing will come of this.

if the gloves fit..

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 5:55 PM | Without hard evidence means nothing...and it's still the NCAA (Score:2 Normal)
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July 29th, 2012 at 7:21 PM | Cindrich was asked who is (Score:2)
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Cindrich was asked who is watching the NCAA.

"That's a very good question," he said. "No one's watching them. You want to know who's watching them? Nick Saban. You want to trust Nick Saban?

"You people are sheep. SHEEP!"

Okay, I made up last part up, but it felt so right.

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July 29th, 2012 at 8:18 PM | Payola (Score:1)
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I like how he used the word payola in the interview. Never in my life have I used this word.

Fergodsakes! 

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July 29th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | As the late Warren Zevon would say... (Score:1)
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Send lawyers, guns, and money; the shit has hit the fan.

As for "hard evidence," the NCAA changed everything about enforcement with PSU.  Let's see if they are as willing to punish cheaters as they were to punish the people fooled by Jerry Sandusky.

This story has been out for a day or so, but if the little twitter convo starts to go further, things could get really interesting really fast.

 

 

 

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July 29th, 2012 at 10:03 PM | Saban's last year in East (Score:5 Normal)
WolverineHistorian
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Saban's last year in East Lansing was a surprise 9-2 before leaving for LSU as the bowl games were about to start.

Otherwise, Saban's MSU teams went 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5 and 6-6.  He was 0-3 in bowl games (being outscored 134-49 in those 3 games).  He had a dismal 3-11 record against top ten teams, although it was pretty funny watching them beat #1 OSU in 1998 yet still not qualify for a bowl game.  

His MSU teams had plenty of choke jobs, plenty of personal penalties and too much looking ahead to the Michigan games that cost them the prior week.  Remember the blocked field goal against Northwestern in '97?  

If Saban paid players at MSU, it was money NOT well spent.

Go Blue!  Always!

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July 30th, 2012 at 11:06 AM | It bought him a couple wins (Score:2)
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It bought him a couple wins against us.  Hated that SOB.  Still do. 

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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