NFL Draft Day One Open Thread

Submitted by tdcarl on

Discuss.

Personally I'm just hoping the Lions don't poop the bed here. And for our Michigan guys to go somewhere good for them.

Space Coyote

May 8th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

Never understood trading up one pick. The Vikings were unlikely to pick up Gilbert. That's a waste of a late round pick after a great move to get a 1st round pick next year.

Also, every pick that passes without Johnny getting picked, the better he's going to be. If he went first overall, he'd be a bust. If he slips to the 2nd, he'll be a HOF. It's a fine line of when to pick him.

Lastly, there are some better CBs in this draft than Gilbert. Poor pick by the Browns.

Space Coyote

May 8th, 2014 at 9:14 PM ^

So I'm guessing he isn't a HOF. He has plenty of flaws, but he also makes a ton of plays. I think he'll be a middle of the road QB for a while before breaking down in the NFL. Never a star, always exciting. I'm just saying, with a chip on his shoulder, he's a guy that will make the most of that motivation.

Yeoman

May 8th, 2014 at 9:57 PM ^

They were #3 in the country in defensive FEI last year, behind Stanford and MSU.

They were also #3 in 2011, behind Alabama and LSU.

(They were #30 the year in between, which isn't terrible. They haven't had a bad defense since '08.)

coldnjl

May 8th, 2014 at 9:09 PM ^

I like the pick by Cleveland. Don't take a guy that ESPN clearly is trying to sell above where you value him. Gilbert and Haden will be a great tandem. I was expecting a OT to pair with Thomas however

Space Coyote

May 8th, 2014 at 9:12 PM ^

Matthews has great upside though. He'll be a badass guard right away. I think he has all the upside, but don't think he ever becomes a LT in the NFL. Think he's a RT or All-Pro OG. Matthews I think is the most well rounded right now. Better run blocker than Lewan. Hard to judge pass pro with Johnny behind him, but probably the first I would pick of the three.

Lewan has some things to work on with his hands getting too high and a few other issues, but is the most polished overall. You know what you're getting with him. If you're a pass first team, you won't do much better than Lewan.

TheLastHarbaugh

May 8th, 2014 at 9:16 PM ^

The Lions are all about that offense. 

It's a good pick. he's a monster at the TE position. He helps out tremendously and can split out wide. The Lions need more fire power on offense, despite what people who know nothing about football say.

TheLastHarbaugh

May 8th, 2014 at 9:37 PM ^

The Lions are a team that is dependent on the passing game. That's who they are. That is who the front office has decided they should be. 

Last year, outside of Calvin, they were fucking garbage in terms of their receiving corps. Reggie and Joique are great. They are also both RBs. The Lions need some other receiving threats. They signed Golden Tate. Now they drafted Eric Ebron. In order to run that offense you need horses, and they went out and got a few.  

LS And Play

May 8th, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^

Just because I'm a member doesn't mean I can remember what any member said at any point in time. You seem to have a highly inflated sense of self importance in the context of this blog. I have no idea what you've said previously here. In this conversation, at least, you're acting like an asshole.

Also, you are making what they call a straw-man argument. I never said you couldn't admit you were wrong after the fact. We have no idea yet whether this draft pick will be a success or not. I believe it won't be. You seem to think it will be, and you mock anyone who thinks so, claiming they clearly don't watch football and/or know nothing about it. That's different than admitting after the fact that you were wrong.

TheLastHarbaugh

May 8th, 2014 at 11:03 PM ^

You seem to not understand the difference between refutation and abuse. If I say you'e dumb, I haven't made any sort of logical claim. I haven't refuted anything. I've merely called you dumb. It's not subject to any sort of logical fallacy because I haven't made a logical agument. I've merely called you dumb. The fact that you continue to display an inability to understand that is hilarious and shows you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Please, keep invoking logical fallacies like some sort of neckbearded king,