The only one on your list I see having any real possibility is Taylor Lewan.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
The only one on your list I see having any real possibility is Taylor Lewan.
If (and a big "if") Will Campbell lives up to his potential, which is possible given the amount of coaching he has been getting, he could break onto the scene big-time. Unlikely, but he has the physical tools to be an NFL defensive lineman.
Look at your headline bar: "If (and a big "if") Will"
You could've stopped the post right there. Truer words have never been spoken
Good point. I was too busy looking at the picture to notice the headline bar.
If we are purely talking about physical/athletic capabilities, then Campbell definitely belongs there as a guy with first round potential. But, in the words of John Madden, "fifty percent of the game is half mental." If he can overcome that part then he definitely had a chance. The other problem is that even if he has a great All-American type year, odds are with how hard the scouts examine a player, he will drop because of his first three seasons.
i would be happy if campbell can even come close to being as good as will carr, and i don't think he was even drafted.
hell, alan branch wasn't drafted until the 2nd round and he was a great player. gabe watson was a 4th round pick and he started most of his college career.
Right or not, NFL teams draft based on potential. Harrison Smith ran a 4.5 at the combine. Kovacs isn't going to run anywhere near a 4.5.
Because they're both white safeties with less than elite speed? No. First of all, Harrison Smith is several inches taller than Kovacs, and yes, that matters. He also has more range and is a better overall athlete. Harrison Smith's athleticism is about at the edge of what you can get away with in the NFL with football intelligence and good instincts. Jordan Kovacs, unfortunately, does not have the athletic ability it takes to play in the NFL. It just isn't happening. Could someone take a flyer on him in the 7th or sign him undrafted, sure. But he's not going to be high on anyone's draft board. And before anyone says "Jim Leonhard" - the guy ran a 4.4.
Also, with the rookie salary cap. A lot more teams will take those kind of risks with first rounders. BTW, He was actually a pretty good player. I don't care for the man, but i am not a blind homer for my favorite college.
or touissant if he really explodes. Let's hope not, though
Why would we hope that?
Maybe he wants him to stay another year.
I want Fitz to have a breakout year and exceed his goals. Kids leaving early for the draft because they are high draft picks is not a bad problem to have.
there was one guy drafted this year in the 1st round that had 2 sacks in his entire career..... so they don't necessairly draft on production.....if people are that dumb, then BWC could have been a 1st rounder THIS YEAR!
Dontari Poe was drafted in the first round pretty much entirely on his combine numbers. Now, one thing big Will has never been short on is athleticism. If he has a decent year, then goes into the combine and impresses, which is entirely possible, then he could be a first rounder. On the d-line more than any other position the nfl drafts on potential and athleticism. These are two things Will most definetly has.
But if he can't improve his pad level after 4 years of college coaching, what would convince NFL teams that they can do better?
That's what I was thinking too. I think there's a more plausible explanation that Poe's lack of production was because of lack of coaching at Memphis, but after 2 years of Mattison, Hoke, Montgomery coaching, it's going to be tough to argue that the BWC hasn't hit his ceiling yet.
Also, it seemed like a weak draft for DT's.
Jordan Kovacs, after winning the first ever UltraHeisman award (which the Heisman Trust will be forced to create after the standard Heisman trophy is destroyed... by Jordan Kovacs).
Roundtree and BWC less than 1%
Toussaint and Denard maybe 10-15%
Agree on Roundtree. That one didn't make any sense as he will never have the measurables to be a 1st round draft pick. He lacks size, speed, jumping ability. He doesn't even have very good hands. Junior Hemmingway overachieved at the combine and he barely snuck into the draft at the end of the 7th round. It is much more likely for Roundtree to go undrafted than to be a first round pick.
I'd say Toussaint's chances are pretty low as well. The NFL has devalued the running back position and you are starting to see that in the draft as well. After Richardson, the only two RBs taken in the first round were the last 2 picks. Easily could have been second rounders.
that Tree is an absolute burner, but the dude is shifty and knows how to sit down in zones. Possession WRs are being placed at a higher value than your average straight line jump ball guys, mostly because of the West Coast philosophy.
The ideal WR is the WR with a quick first step and insane start and stop. Solid understanding of routes and even recognition of coverages for those option routes. Every once in a while a freak comes along who has both the top end speed and the quick twitch (AJ Green) but they are rare.
Plus, Tree blocks. Alot. And he hasn't bitched in the slightest about dropping numbers of targets. That will be a difference from a majority of WRs.
That still won't get him into the first round. NFL teams tend to be willing to play WR that bitch (see TO), but they are less hesitant to play WR that can't outrun the DB's or consistently catch the ball. I like Roundtree and your are right that he has shiftiness and knows how to find openings in zones from the slot. As I said yesterday, he like Hemingway could be a niche WR-a 3rd or 4th guy finding holes in zones and losing LBs from the slot. However, 1st round WR's are the premiere WR in the draft. There is probably 0% chance he could go in the 1st round. Nonetheless, he could find a home in the 6th or 7th round.
Exactly. If you look at the first round WRs taken over the past 5 years, Tree doesn't compare physically even close to any of them. Doesn't mean he can't be a productive NFL WR, but he won't be considered until Saturday of the draft.
but how can someone overachieve at the combine? I can see having an off day but not overachieving. It seems likely that his combine is possibly a better reflection of his NFL potentail than his college career that featured less than stellar QB play, 2 different offenses, and injuries.
yea. unfortunate. I just do not see roundtree getting a shot (especially given how tough it was for hemingway to get a spot AT ALL)
denard is 100% going to be drafted. UNless you mean 10% at QB, then yea. I'd even go lower than 10, unfortunately
10% in the first round.
But at his height he isn't being drafted in the 1st.
Unless Roy shows significant improvement this year, I think it's likely...or at least plausible.. he won't be drafted at all.
If Denard has an RG III like season then he could. Other than that Lewan or BWC have a slight chance if they dominate.
Denard will be a first rounder, but as a receiver. He has some height, speed, and ultra quickness and acceleration. Perfect wr prospect
You don't take a converted QB in the first round who's 6', 185 and has never played the position before.
There are plenty of fast guys who are 6', 185 and played WR for 3-4 years in college. In fact, there was a run on that type of played in the last 3rd, early 4th round this year. And again, you're talking guys who play WR in college, not coverted QBs.
The draft expert, Mel Kiper, predicted that if Denard entered the draft this year, he would be the #1 receiver on the board, drafted before Justin Blackmon. While I may not always agree with Mel, many NFL teams seem to take his word as though it were gold. DRob is a first round prospect at WR, even without ever playing a down at the position.
Because he currently doesn't have Denard at the top of his board anymore. Terrence Williams from Baylor is the #1 WR on his board. Robert Woods from USC is also eligible after this year.
The last I saw, Kiper had Shoelace as his #4 or #5 WR.
I'm not saying it absolutely can't happen...I'd never put that on Denard after seeing him do things many thought could never happen. However, with his size...I just don't see ANYONE taking a converted QB who hasn't played a down at WR.
I'm not going solely off the "never played WR" either...#1 WR's in the league are typically bigger guys. Look at the #1 WRs drafted over the past 5-10 years. Steve Smith and Hines Ward are the only two #1 guys that come to mind that have had continued success in the league. Both were taken in the 3rd round.
He'll find a place in the league, no doubt about that.
Roundtree will be lucky to get drafted - Hemingway much more productive and bigger and lucky to latch on.
Steve Breaston who was superior to Roundtree was a 5th round pick. He is probably the player most comprable to Denard ex straight line speed from UM the past few years. Denard has zero experience at WR, who knows what kind of hands he has for catching - no one knows. He more than anyone will need to flash at combines and pro days as WR to show he has that skill set. Everyone assumes an "athlete" can play WR - probably easier for most athletes to turn into DBs than WRs. He could be a change of pace scat back as well because we know he can run.
As for big Will - gosh he needs to have a Fairley type of season to get into the first round. He lacks the inner motor or he'd be on the field 2 years ago. And as someone else says he has THREE DL coaches now... if they cant develop him or motivate him, he is a lost cause.
Lewan with a monster year would be the best chance, and that would have to include a game shutting down his nemeis from Sparty, Mr Gholston. :)
listen to Kiper, McShay or Mayock? No, just no.
Mel Kiper is the absolute worst. He talks out of both sides of his mouth so that no one can say he's wrong about a player. Also, if you watch his "best available" once the draft gets past the middle of the first round or so, the same names often stick there for about 50 picks. If he was truly as great a scout as he thinks he is, he'd be in an NFL war room, not on ESPN.
He makes more money where he's at. And no one can fire him.
Matt Jones was drafted in the first round. Randle El was drafted in the 2nd, Hines Ward was drafted in the 3rd. It's not common but it will happen from time to time.
Matt Jones is 6'6, 240...and he ran a 4.3 at the combine. He also played some WR in college ala Ryan Tannehill.
Randle-El is a good comparison, Ward did everything in college, but I can see that as well.
Devin Hester has had moderate success as a receiver, but he was a corner in college. It seems to me like the speed and size comparison would be the closest there.
I rather think he's been a bust as a receiver. Best kick/punt returner in NFL history, but ---despite having all the tools and potential to drool over, he has never produced much as a receiver.
In 08 he was ok, with 665 yards, but in 2009 he would have broken 1000 yards if he played all 16 games. Instead he finished with 13 YPC and 757 yards.
This is all while playing out of position. Hester would have had much more success as a slot, but the Bears insisted he be the #1 receiver. This was also when he was catching passes from Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton.
A perfect arguement for those saying Denard is a #1 WR...
The "Hines Ward played QB at Georgia" draft meme needs to die. It gets brought up everytime someone wants to make a case for their teams QB-to-WR conversion. Ward played some QB during his sophmore season but that was it. He finished up as Georgia's second all time leading receiver with 149 catches for 1,965 yards.
Matt Jones went in the first round (which was a terrible pick in a terrible draft) because he was willing to go to the Senior Bowl as a WR and played very well. So far Denard seems like he's more likely to take the Pat White "I'm a QB and that's it" route, which won't help his stock. If he's willing to work as a WR at the senior bowl and plays well, he could go in the first. If he's not willing or doesn't play well at the position, he won't.
Highly doubt that Denard will take the Pat White route. Of course Denard is completely committed to QB now because that's where he helps Michigan the most. As soon as the season is over, he'll do what's best for him as a professional.
The Pat White comparison doesn't stick - White had a lot more success throwing the ball than Denard and was a less talented runner. Plus the wildcat was en vogue when White came out. Right on about Ward / Matt Jones though.
There are a lot of fast players. We've had quite a few. Was Denard clearly faster than Carlos Brown or Michael Shaw, for example?
Denard is incredibly dangerous with the ball in his hands in space. We've had AC, not sure anyone else compares. The NFL is going to salivate over the prospect of getting the ball in his hands. He doesn't project to outside WR, but teams will watch him at the combine and Michigan's pro day. If he shows good hands, he'll go very high. They aren't very many true game changers and Denard is definitely one.
There are a lot of fast players. We've had quite a few. Was Denard clearly faster than Carlos Brown or Michael Shaw, for example?
Yes. And I'm not just saying that to promote the Denard = dilithium meme, but, well, there is a reason that meme exists.
I won't say Denard won't get taken in the first round, because he's got the kind of freakish athleticism that sometimes makes an NFL GM swoon and do funny things. But if he does go it'll be the kind of pick that has the guys at the desk kind of shaking their head and making funny noises that mean "I don't want to rip this pick because that would be mean but seriously that was a silly thing to do." Like they did with Bruce Irvin. Denard doesn't fit the mold of what teams usually do with first-rounders.
The day Al Davis passed away, Denard's draft stock took a serious hit...
Denard would have to have one of the best seasons in CFB History to get drafted in the first round. Because he's have to get drafted as a QB in order to be in the first round. Anyone who thinks he's going to switch to WR and then get drafted in round 1 is sadly mistaken. The only way that happens is if right now he switches to WR and has a Percy Harvin type year. And we all know that's not happening.
I'm not being negative, but let's take off the maize and blue colored glasses. Denard had 15 INTs last year. We haven't seen anything that says he'll be a first round QB. Heck, I don't know if we've seen that he'll be an NFL QB.
Even with a RG3 type year, that doesn't put him in the 1st round as a QB, IMO...I think if he had an RG3 type year it would solidify him getting drafted as a QB rather than a WR. But numbers aren't everything...ask Kellen Moore and Case Keenum.
Sidenote, just a personal preference...Denard plays more like Michael Vick than RGIII if we want to compare. But again, but of those guys were DOMINANT for MULTIPLE years in college. People forget, Cam Newton was a 3rd Round QB before he dominated the SEC. But Cam is 6'5, 250. Let's let Denard beat Alabama, win a B1G Championship and try to find his way to NYC for the Heisman before we put him in the 1st round of the draft.
Regardless of how good of a season he could have, no one is going to take a sub 6' QB in the first round. Russell Wilson was an excellent college player and with 3-4 more inches, would have been taken ahead of Tannehil, but fell due to one thing alone, his height. It sounds stubborn, but the only productive starting QB in the NFL currently below 6'2" is Brees, and we know that Denard will never be Brees.
Well, if we take homerism out of the equation, then we have to admit that Denard is never going to be an NFL quarterback. Never.
randel el was a second round selection. denard > randel el.
Draft strategy has changed A TON since Randel El was drafted. In today's draft, he wouldn't have gone before the 3rd, and Denard won't go in the first.
i agree that draft strategy has seemed to change the last several years. if anything, teams are drafting more and more based on pure athleticism (ie. combines). so this would increase denard's chances of being drafted in the first round; though i don't see that happening.
He was making the opposite point, that draft strategy will hurt Denard.
Personally, I think Denard is a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick. The Pat White experiment in Miami had to have hurt his chances and the Wildcat is about dead, not multiple TEs is the "thing."
You look at guys like Travis Benjamin from Miami, he was one of 4-5 smaller, super fast, dynamic type WRs to go in rounds 3 and 4 this year. And those guys played WR all throughout college.
Now Denard is a special athlete, plus he bring some versitility to the table, that's why I think he's ahead of those guys. But in the end...you're not going to take a 1st round draft pick on a converted WR. Not unless that WR is 6'6, 240 and runs a pure 4.3 at the combine like Matt Jones did.
We'll see, I'm not betting against Denard...but if I'm him, I'm less worried about the first round and more worried about the right fit. He's a very specific type of player. I mentioned the Falcons being a great fit for him. Detroit would be too. Indoors for at least 9 games (count @ Minnesota)...he can play the slot, help at RB (althought Javid Best kind of has that role)...and even give you a wildcat look in place of Stafford a time or two.
But you don't look for that type of player in the 1st round.
Wow, you're really going out an a limb there. If any QB in the country has an RGIII like season, they could go in the first round.
I think Lewan has the best shot, but I hope he comes back and goes first round in 2 years.
yea, I don't see him going pro early. Seems like he enjoys college too much. But who knows
It is kind of sad to see only three players selected and two in 7th round (not that there is anything wrong with 7th round - Tom Brady was a 6-th rounder.)
I would say a measure of success for Hoke and co. is their recruited classes produce earlier round (1st round?) NFL draftees on a yearly basis. It means they have recruited good college players and developed them well.
We simply haven't had players last in our system for 3-4-5 years like most teams have. You look at a kid like Joe Bolden. He naturually can end up as a mid-round pick just with above average progression.
You take Kenny Demens...he sat behind Obi Ezeh who was always in the wrong spot for a year and a half, and then he was coached by GERG and on one of the worst defenses ever. Guys like Demens, Floyd, RVB even Roh and M-Rob are going to suffer from the past we've had here at Michigan. Typically those guys are locks to be late round picks.
Soon we'll have elite talent that has gone through the same system. Guys like Morris, Darboh, Kalis and all the OLmen in '12 and '13...Pipkins, Beyer/Clark, Bolden, Countess, Wilson and Thomas. These are guys that you can easily see in the EARLY rounds of the draft if they come in and play and get better like their potential says they can.
Even guys like Desmond Morgan, who if he was a senior this year and had to play through all the BS of the past is a lock to be a UFA...even Morgan could have a legit shot at getting drafted before it's all said and done. That's you're difference.
I don't think Denard will get much of a shot at QB, but I think somebody will draft him to play a role similar to that of Percy Harvin. Harvin went 22nd in 2009, despite testing positive for pot and being branded as having "character issues."
Denard is just as much of an athlete, and is the polar opposite of a person with "character issues." I think he'll go fairly high.
Harvin, in three seasons, caught 133 passes for 1,929 yards and had great career stats as a running back. Why does everyone assume that Denard has great hands and that he will immediately be able to start running pass routes in the NFL? I'd love to see Denard's passing game make a major jump forward this year, and while I expect him to be improved and reduce the number of INT's he has thrown over the last two years, I still have some doubts.
I'd love to see him be drafted in the first or second round, but there is nothing right now that suggests that will occur. I would think that the NFL combine will be huge for Denard next year.
He's a great athlete. I'm pretty sure he could learn to catch a ball
"he could learn to catch the ball" is very different from "he could learn to catch the ball over his right shoulder while running 4.4 straight line with a sideline to deal with" or... "he could learn to catch the ball over the middle from his slot position blind to the fact a 215 lb safety is about to rip his head off."
If WR was so easy, every super fast track athlete would go and play it. The bears and raiders have tried this - Willie Gault - over the years. It's not so "easy".
I'm hoping Denard falls to 64 next year so my Skins can grab him.
Realize you just got RG3 right?
I'm counting on Denard being RGIII's #1 target
You want a 6' converted QB as your #1 target? Didn't you guys have Randle-El?
I hope my team gets Denard, like all of us. But I don't want any 6' guy as my #1 target. Also I don't want a converted QB who's never shown he can catch as my #1 target.
I want Denard and I want to use him like Percy Harvin. Some slot WR, some RB, some Wildcat...save the #1 WR spots for the Larry Fitzgerald's and Calvin Johnson's of the world.
Meh... We're used to throwing to Santana Moss as our #1 here. Denard wouldn't have any problems being accepted in DC. Although Leonard Hankerson is about to turn up the juice.
Quite frankly...I'd be PISSED as a 'Skins fan that they have a bunch of slot WRs trying to play outside. I apologize my buddy Devin Thomas was a bust for you guys, but Denard hasn't played a down at WR and you want to make him a #1 outside WR in the National Football League?
Someone made a very fair point about Devin Hester being a bust at WR...and Hester played WR in high school and in college on top of CB duties. But he's simply not an outside #1.
Ted Ginn would be another example (and we was solely a WR in college).
I don't want Denard to be a bust, I want him to find a team that is going to use his skills. I'd LOVE to see him on a team like the Falcons. Help out Matt Ryan a little at QB, provide a change of pace from Turner at RB...AND play the slot inside Roddy White and Julio Jones.
I don't even like the Falcons like that, but that is a DREAM SCENARIO. Put Denard in a Percy Harvin role in Atlanta and you have an offense (assuming they can get more OLine help) that rivals any top offense in the league.
AND he gets to play indoors/on turf for more than half the year with 8 home games in ATL and 1 away game in NO. Plus any other indoor games on the schedule. "LOOK AT THAT SPEED!!"
*BTW, looks like some Redskins fan disagrees with you and went neg happy...sorry bro*
I dono about a #1, but I think denard would make a ridiculously good wideout. short, speedy wideouts are the new wave of nflwideouts
Don't you mean you're counting on Denard being Kork Coupon's #1 target?
Had a chance to be if he finally lives up to his potential this season
A while back someone posted Mel Kiper's rankings for the 2013 draft and Denard was either the 1st or 2nd ranked WR on his list which is a guaranteed 1st rounder. I know a lot of things can change but I like Denard's chances.
As for Roundtree, he's a fringe NFL product, small and doesn't really have breakaway speed.
Come on, you know that list is crap half the time...Teams will draft according to their NEEDS. Denard is a project at WR, therefore, he's a luxury pick.
Just a few years back, one of my good friends Devin Thomas was supposed to be the #1 WR...he ended up being #2 behind St. Louis' Donnie Avery and NEITHER was taken in round 1.
No WR went in the first round of that draft...
Matt Millen wasn't still around---he would have prevented that from happening
You could have made the exact same point without letting everyone know that you and Devin Thomas used to play swords in elementary school.
Didn't Kiper have Ezeh as a first rounder a year before or something absurd like that? DRob will not be the #1 WR next year.
True juniors and redshirt sophs will also be eligible.
I don't mean any offense to the five players you listed, but no.
Taylor Lewan, maybe. But he would need an All-Big 10 season.
As long as the product is good on the field and Michigan is winning, the NFL draft picks will come...
I agree with all of the Lewan posts... that is if he goes pro after next year. Demens has a shot if he has a great year and good combine...
Roy won't even sniff the first several rounds. IF he gets drafted, it will be the 7th round.
I said this in the other thread...IMO, Fitz is the best bet to be an early round draft pick (since all of this is based on amazing seasons).
Lewan is coming back for his senior year IMO, so he's off the board. That leaves Fitz, Denard and Campbell as your only even remotely realistic candidates. Denard isn't a 1st round QB, IMO...I think he could be a 2nd round "ATH" (primarily WR). And Campbell, well...a man can pray.
That leaves Fitz, and I may be being overly optimistic, but I think Toussaint has a GREAT year. He's got to leave early because of the shelf-life of a RB. He can't risk coming back. Also, he's not from the best area and has a daughter. I'd hope he was gone so he can represent Michigan at the next level. And in that case, I'd say 2nd-3rd round. But maaaaybe he could sneak into the bottom of round 1 like Doug Martin did this year.
will be invited to the draft at least.
What, no love for Craig Roh ?
Feel free to moderate this as extremely insightful
If I were drafting, I would trade up to #1 overall and select Denard. He deserves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I heard Denard is #1 on Millen's board - after all he will be a WR...
Those rose colored glasses you're wearing are pretty thick, my friend.
If Lewan leaves, then I could see him being a first-rounder. Otherwise, though, nobody on that list strikes me as a first-round talent. Of course, that means very little - yes, 1st rounders tend to play more than any other draft class, but you could make a very impressive HOF team out of guys drafted in the later rounds.
Kovacs is the guy besides Denard that will go in the early rounds
There are a lot of possibilities for Michigan players to go in the 1st round next year. They're going to have to have a big season like all 1st rounder's do.
Fitz having a 2000+ yard season
Roundtree hauling in 20 touchdown catches
Big Will with (20) sacks
Taylor Lewan recognized for how well he plays
Denard showing off at the combine (on top of an outstanding year at QB)
It all starts with an opening win on the road against the Tide!
I hope Lewan does not go after this season but if he does he will probably be a first or early second round pick. The NFL loves B1G linemen, especially tackles (Long, Thomas, Carimi, Bulaga, etc.) but I think unless he cleans up every major award then there may be some competition for a top five or ten pick.
Denard to me seems like a pick everyone is anticipating but not really sure about, like Pat White, Tim Tebow, Brad Smith or Randle El. You don't really know how their skills will translate to the NFL. I would guess that he is a second or third rounder as a WR but if he has a high completion pct. and TD/INT ratio then he may go higher, though still as some sort of WR/QB/RB combo guy.
If Floyd has a great season, I would guess he is probably a late third-rounder at worst. Not to say he wouldn't be a great pro or couldn't go higher but I am just kind of going based on how other B1G CBs have gone in the last few drafts.
One player that could be a sleeper is Jordan Kovacs. He reminds me of Jim Leonhard, Louis Delmas, or Eric Smith. He is obviously a smart player that can blitz and makes up for range with good reads and instincts. He may go later than the third round but seems like he could be productive.
It is hard to predict these things because so much of it depends on what teams need and players can rise and fall based on injuries, accolades, draft measurables, interviews, etc. It also seems like other schools tend to send clusters of talent to the NFL based on their college teams success and scheme. Alabama, LSU, and Stanford have really raised their NFL profiles in recent years while schools like Michigan, Florida, and Miami have regressed.
I don't see Lewan being a high first rounder. He's not Jake Long and never will be because of his slighter frame. He's a damn good OT and will rake in some college accolades, but his ceiling is lower than top-15 type linemen because of his size.
Will decide a lot of the draft future for the M seniors. If Denard torches Alabama, look out. BWC and/or Roh get first-round looks if they muck about in bama's backfield. Big games by any offensive player in that game will draw a ton of eyes, even if its a crazy yardage reciever game off of some oh noes. Omameh and Lewan especially have a great chance to look good here.
If anyone gets drafted in the first round from Michigan though, this is where the conversation about it will begin.
Here is my attempt at doing what Kiper and McShay do.
Roundtree: Most likely a 4th-7th rounder. His ceiling being a 2nd rounder.
Denard Robinson: Most likely a 2nd-4th rounder. His ceiling being end of the first round.
BWC: Most likely 5th round - undrafted. His ceiling being third round.
Fitzgerald Toussaint: I don't think he leaves after next year, but if he does, he is most likely a 4th to 6th rounder. His celing being a 2nd round pick.
Taylor Lewan: Hopefully Taylor won't leave, but if he does he would most likely be a 2nd-3rd round pick. His ceiling being in the first half of the 1st round assuming a great season.
Other players who could be drafted:
JT Floyd: Could go in the later rounds if he continues to be productive and depending on how he tests at the combine.
Kovacs: I could see Kovacs going in the 4th-7th rounds, maybe even higher.
Roh: A big year from Roh could mean a late round draft pick for him, in the 4-7 range.
I think Kovacs draft will come down to his combine numbers. If he can just test out as more athletic than we he seems (Especially with in the cone drill, but also his 40 time) than he will be a top four round pick.
Frankly, I don't see any first rounders currently, especially after watching the recent draft unfold. All the pre-draft hype is just that, hype. Who'd have thunk so many Illini would get taken early, while the Rimington Award winner stays on the board until the last round?
I hope they all perform tremendously well this season, but I don't think we have any first rounders.
Lewan will be a first rounder when he leaves, I think it's just a matter of how high. He's got prototypical left tackle size and quickness, he's got the mean streak, his production has already been good, he's started for basically two years already, and he continues to improve. The biggest negative was his personal foul issues but he already cut back on those this past season.
I'll echo a lot of the sentiment already posted: Lewan is tops on the list as far as first round potential, even if he leaves early. I sure hope he stays for his senior year though. The only other one I see with a legit shot is Fitz if he stays healthy and productive through his senior year.
True Juniors and Redshirt Sophmores are also eligible.
You need to be three years removed from high school, not four.
I don't know that it adds anyone who is a likely first rounder. There aren't may players who are redshirt sophmores that are ready to go anyways from any school.
did any even go this year?
It goes without saying that getting drafted in any round in the NFL is a hell of an accomplishment and praise worthy, and even those undrafted but signed have a chance to play on Sundays.
Also, even if a player has a hugely productive season, he's still in competition with other players in the draft. If he's not considered one of the top 2-3 at his position, he usually doesn't have much shot at the first round. It is kind of fun to speculate about this, but unless we take the time to look at every top player across the country, there's no way to even have an educated guess about what round a player will go, and some years there may be a lot of really good players at a particular position, making a first round selection more difficult.
You should add Juniors and RS Soph to your list, as they are eligible for the draft after this year.
If Jake Ryan goes off next year and learns how to seal the edge consitantly, I would think he would get consideration
He's gonna be a beast of a pro, but I think he stays till he graduates
Lewan could jump up to rounds 2 or 3 with a good year, Denard could go rounds 3 to 5, Campbell is a wildcard (he would need to blow up this year to get attention), and I would be pretty surprised if Roundtree got drafted. Fitz would be better served staying. He has a 1.5 year resume and injury concerns, but if he could add another year to that he'd be in pretty good shape.
running backs don't really need more than a 1.5 year resume. Trent Richardson and Ingram both played 1.5 years
They both had over 100 carries for 3 years of their career at Alabama. Fitzgerald just won a job in the middle of last year.
touche. Still, if he has a nasty year, he will definitely get looks.
If someone plays out of their mind I could see someone moving up to 2nd or late first round. Rich Rod really screwed us as far as NFL talent. D Rob will not get drafted until the very late rounds, unless he smokes it at Alabama. He is too small and injury prone. He is tough though playing through many injuries. Can he catch the football? Nobody knows, so it will be a huge gamble for a team. He definitely can't protect the football, and will need to improve with fumbles. He has slim to zero chance of being an NFL quarterback. He is my favorite college player, so I pray he improves and can make it in at a WR. If he was taller and could throw a spiral more often he could get in as a QB.
Don't get me wrong, I love Roy, and the game winner Under the Lights will endeer him to me forever. But someone please tell me why in the world I keep seeing his nome come up on these threads as a potential high draft choice next year? I'll honestly be surprised if he gets drafted at all.
He's pretty slow, he runs average routes, he's terrible at getting separation, and has avarage hands. His big numbers two years ago were entirely a product of the offense he was in, and probably would have been put up by anyone who was playing that position.
Again, I hope the best for him and his future, and I'm not trying to put down a Michigan guy, but I think a lot of people here have unrealistic expectations for this kid.
bother prognosticating about the draft a day after the last one ended? Way-too-early mock drafts are the most hilarious travesties I've ever witnessed - with every "expert"(read: guys who are about as dumb as a message board poster getting paid to write for SI.com) projecting shit like Vontaze Burfict and Travis Lewis being shoo-in 1st rounders a year ago. Oops.
And yeah, the only one with a prayer of being a day one pick is Taylor Lewan. Honestly, I'd be very happy for Roy if he evens gets drafted.
It's after spring ball and there's nothing else football related to discuss on a message board other than the recent NFL draft?
it does get pretty annoying when there's apparently no sporting news worth talking about other than a mock draft.
Draftniks need to start somewhere. I know that sounds dumb, but they have been watching tape and usually know a list of really good players. Of course, injuries and the ebb and flow of playinig quality will change their list, but its not like the lists are baseless and random-- or that they matter all that much.
Lewan is a sure fire first round pick if he comes out. He's huge, quick, and and elite athlete at that position. Add in tenacity, competitive nature, and smarts, and no way he doesn't go in the first. He needs to get a little bigger, that's it.
Remember #20 pick of the first round, Adrian Clayborn from Iowa? Stoned by RS freshman Lewan.
We'll know on Denard and the others after this year, though Robinson is a once-a-gen-type playmaker running with the ball in his hands.
Denard will run a sub 4.4 forty and be drafted well before the 4-5 round.
What amazed me this year was reading yesterday that IL had two first rounders and two second rounders. And they were even high second rounders - i.e. 4 of the top 50 picks to this school which did nothing in the Big 10. Shows you how important coaching is!