Title says it all..
Ugh..This is never going away.
Title says it all..
Ugh..This is never going away.
OMG SOMEONE LOST A HELMET WHILE GETTING HIT IN A FOOTBALL GAME!! THIS NEVER HAPPENS!!
But seriously, some one should reply that it's back in the equipment room because Smith picked it up 7 seconds after it came off.
Vince was a great back. Shame on you for forgetting about his ability to catch out of the backfield or pick up blocks.
Shame on Al Borges even more for running him up the middle though.
Jamie Morris disagrees.
That's a University of Michigan number.
It is very nice of them, of course, to provide the number for the general information line at the Athletic Department, but how many people in this paper's daily circulation had to wait all the way until option "7" because they were on a rotary phone? I do wonder actually....
Sherman should have just torched that entire region.
Being a civil war dork, Sherman's forces DID burn most of costal South Carolina.
You're probably wishing more of the Rome to Carthage, 2nd Punic War treatment (enslave the surviving population, burn down and loot the city, throw salt in the fields to prevent crops from growing for a generation).
... actually, it wasn't
Thanks for the heads up, and yes more like Rome to Carthage. SALT THEIR EARTH!!!
salt their fields?
oohhhh... i don't know if i'd mess with those carpathians...
it is sort of a Civil War factoid that Sherman turned left in Savannah (which is North) on christmas and largely went into the high country to the Carolinas rather than along the coast. he was aiming to defeat Johnston's army in North Carolina and link up with Grant in Virginia if necessary. Most of the cities on the coast were evacuated by then, leaving only freed starving slaves. The entire city of Columbia SC was still holding out and was stocked mostly with liquor and cotton bale barricades. it was put to the torch after surrendering, either by celebrating troops, freed slaves or retreating confederates.
Sorry; for me, coastal SCar = Charleston & Hilton Head (spent about 4 summers down there). I should have included how they turned west after leaving Charleston as a burned out husk, and 'accidently' burned down Columbia, even though Sherman denied he ordered it burned.
The map above shows he didn't go to charleston. It was evacuated already and has been sieged/blockaded the entire war.
"burn down and loot the city"
My perference is to loot first and burn down later, but maybe that is just me.
He did go through Columbia. They wanted to burn down the First Baptist Church where South Carolina officially succeeded from the Union but SC locals told them the wrong place and they burned down a Methodist Church instead.
The word you were looking was "seceded."
We should run a response,
Missing: Rent payment from several student athletes. If found by boosters, please provide to the NCAA as evidence of payment.
no one in the south can read.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Lets not get crazy. Some of us down here can read. Not well, mind you, and not many of us, but definitely some. Not many at USC (NTUSC) but I bet at least 10-20 could read it and have a good laugh at our expense.
That's actually pretty funny. Nothing wrong with a little friendly zinger posted in the paper (no one reads the newspaper anymore anyways!).
It sucks for Vincent Smith to be on the wrong end of a famous play- but its not like the play was his fault...
It was an amazing hit- and it is "funny" to watch. No problem with the humor related to it at all. If a Michigan player had the same play and you saw an ad the other way around it'd be funny.
I also agree. I wish the hit wasn't against us, but it was a huge all-timer of a hit. The ad is funny. We might as well take it in good humor.
Gotta give the place credit a smart advert for a watering hole for locales in Columbia, SC.
That hit has taken on a life of its own. Sports Illustrated put Clowney on its all-Bowl team simply based on that one play, ignoring the fact that Clowney had no sacks and that was his only TFL (and that Michigan took the lead on its subsequent drive). They did not put Lewan on the team despite winning the head-to-head matchup all day (the Clowney hit was a result of the TE missing the audible, Lewan was blocking the DT).
The media can't see the forest for the trees.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't Clowney's only TFL. He tackled Denard at least once behind the line of scrimmage on a hand off.
You are correct... he had 4 total tackles and 2 tfl's. I think the point still remains that Clowney didn't do much in that game for a "game-changing defensive end."
Thats correct. He did have one additional TFL. He had 2 TFL, 1 additional solo tackle, and 1 additional asst tackle. Somebody give this man an all bowl team. Thanks ESPN.
I stand corrected. Nonetheless, it was a below-average day for Mr. Clowney, despite the one deservedly highlight-reel tackle.
When I saw how they lined up following that botched first down call, all I was thinking was "Oh shit, somebody's about to get cracked."
Is anyone surprised? Try and ignore for a moment that it's Michigan and Vincent Smith. It's literally the perfect play for a defensive lineman. A clean hit that is absolutely brutal looking, including dramatic helmet-popping-off, that caused a fumble that was recovered by the same player making the hit. It is seriously a perfect play from literally every perspective besides it happening to Michigan.
Not that I'm fond of it, but here you go.
derp derp derp derp
Why does everyone act like this was the greatest hit/play in CFB history. It was a good, hard hit and a great play to turn the momentum their way but the coverage it's gotten is way overblown.
there are many examples of great hits, some much closer to the goal line
Maybe so, but this hit was pretty damn strong and on a much bigger stage than a lot of the others - national television by a high-profile NFL prospect. I think everyone has to admit that it was a damn good hit.
Umm because it was one of the greatest hits. Hats off to Vincent Smith for getting right up and not leaving the game...If it were me, I would have been taken out on a stretcher and probably would have shit myself and be forced to wear diapers for the rest of my life. It's not even the fact that it was one of the most amazing, and legal, hits ever. It's also the fact that it came right after a blown call, and it let to the game-changing TD. I am a huge Michigan fan, but no one should take anything away from Clowney because it was like a train running through a Volkswagon Beetle.
Hats off to Clowney..dont be a hater. If Ace Sanders had gotten obliterated in like fashion by Jake Ryan we would have daily Gifs on the homepage paying homage to the hit.
This is not going away anytime soon either..we will likely see this hit many times until Clowney gets drafted
The Kovaks sack on the WMU QB in 2011 got a lot of air play but yea the Clowney hit was sick. I thought it was Denard at first. Blocking screw up aside Devin shouldnt have even handed that ball off
100lbs weight difference
+1 ft Height difference
+clean unblocked path to RB
+ Being really pissed of about a call that Stevie Wonder could've seen was bullshit
= What the fuck did you think was going to happen?
The hit was the culmination of two years of the Vincent Smith I formation power run.....this was the only way the last Iso of his career could have gone..every other play was just a lead up to this last shot at glory
I think it'd still be getting a lot of hype. A lot of neutral observers probably don't even remember the game's outcome or when that play happened, just that it did.
I will be visiting Uncle Louis's in SC. Who's coming with me?
leave an upper decker while you're there?
upper deck an outhouse.
We found an overrated DE who had been missing for 3.5 quarters. If he is yours, please pick him up from Taylor Lewan who now owns him.
Overrated?? C'mon now. I'm annoyed by the negative publicity Michigan is getting on this one as much as the next guy but: (1) it was a great hit, and (2) Clowney is a beast, at top 5 pick in next year's draft unless something drastic happens. He's far from overrated.
Overrated may have been a poor choice of words. But, he has gotten an ungodly amount of hype since that game, a game in which anybody who watched knows that Taylor Lewan won "the battle." Yet, if you watch espn you'd think Clowney was the one who dominated the game.
Clowney is not a no talent ass clown.
is the right word choice in this case. The hit is overhyped. It should have been their ball anyway. We came back and pulled ahead in that game after the hit and subsequent touch down off the turnover. Clowney was kept in check most of the game.
he's a top 5 pick if he left THIS year
There is a lot of butt-hurt in this thread. People need to grow thicker skin or stay off the internet.
Agree 99% (-1% for use of the phrase "butt-hurt").
I don't know if it's an influx of new users or what, but this board has gotten outrageously homerish lately. People need to calm down and try and maintain at least a tiny bit of perspective.
I see more banter.
If you don't think this is just a little bit funny your wound way too tight. Yes it was an overrated hit, but it is kind of clever. Unfortunately our team is just on the receiving end of it this time.
way too tight?
...for Vietnam (or New Orleans).
Every college football fan who doesn't bleed maize and blue acts like this hit was one of the greatest plays in the history of the game. It sucks to the foil for someone else's highlight poster, but as long as Clowney is still in the game, especially in the promotion for the Outback Bowl, we are going to have to look at it until its "shelf life" runs out.
They finally stopped showing the Kordell Stewart abomination after about ten years. I have a feeling we may not be a lucky this time.
I called the Uncle Louis's to make a reservation for Vincent Smith.
[EDIT] We should all call claiming to be Mr. Smith LOL.
Well, this seems to fully justify the ill-willed, high-speed race I was in with a car with a South Carolina sticker yesterday as we both hurtled down I-81 towards the Carolinas (I have a Michigan sticker on my car, and it was clearly "on"). I'm happy to say that I won, but in a race between two SUV's, I think the real loser was the environment. I'm also sad to report that I did not reduce the other car to a smoldering wreck. Had I known of this grevious insult to Michigan, I would've edged them off a mountain road somewhere in Virginia.
I mean, I also won because I went to Michigan. *cracks beer.*
This was posted on their FB page today. http://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/190150380525/timeline/story?ut=69&hash=7452819535078189971&wstart=1357027200&wend=1359705599&ustart&ref=stream&__user=0
Hope that works dont know how well it will since I am on my phone.
They're just pulling his (game)cock. Kinda funny
Unblocked, my grandma could have made that tackle. Probably not the hit stick, but for sure the tackle. Clowney got HANDLED ALL game by Lewan, and he makes 3 plays the ENTIRE game and he is the hero and player of the game. Deep down inside as any lineman who's ever played competative football knows he's saying...Wow that boy was good, and he handled me. Whoever put that in the paper is an idiot. Probably some dumb MSU fan with no life. Vincent Smith did all the intangible things that DON'T show up on the stat sheet, and made some big plays for us in his career. It's sad to me that this is what people will remember about him. Not the pass protection, toughness, and the fact that he HOPED up like a champion right after the hit. Pisses me off.
Would NOT have made that tackle. That's just arrogant.
...Does your grandma have any eligibility left?
Shouldn't the play have been dead when the helmet came off? That is what the rule states I thought. It's clearly leading with the helmet as well.
Am I missing something there? People keep telling me it's a clean hit. No it wasn't IMO ... he led with the head.
The ball should be dead in the air when the helmet is blown off Vince's head. Educate me please.
I think VS never really had possession of the ball in the first place, initially I thought the same exact thing, that he should have been ruled down in the air when his helmet flew off and no fumble, but he never really got the handoff. As for the head-to-head thing, that is just for qbs and defensless recievers I think.
The rule states...
ARTICLE 9. a. If a player’s helmet comes completely off through play, other than as the direct result of a foul by an opponent, the player must leave the game for the next down. The game clock will stop at the end of the down....
c. If the ball carrier’s helmet comes off as in paragraph a (above) the ball is dead (Rule 4-1-3-q). If the player is not the ball carrier the ball remains alive, but he must not continue to participate in the play beyond the imme- diate action in which he is engaged. Prolonged participation is a personal foul (Rule 9-1-17). By definition such a player is obviously out of the play (Rule 9-1-12-b).
The helmet exploding play caused the ball to come out. Does that make Vince not the ball carrier? That seems silly.
The guideline from 1976 is the precedent setting for discouraging spearing.
This is F'd. The adulation is the problem. We haven't learned anything from Daydrion Taylor's hit. Nobody wants to take action and when the action is taken they don't enforce the rules.
In this case the ball should be dead when the helmet came off by rule...Michigan ball just as if it had rolled out of bounds.
They should clarify this so that fumbles should not be allowed when helmets are removed due to the contact that caused it.
The play itself seemed to fit some balance given the 9.9 yard first down previously enforced - which was a case of extreme paralax on the part of the media. I never heard the officials chime in on that either. It looked like the official ruled the chain and not the stick was the 10 yard marker...or else the Clowney hit was just divine justice.