New signing day: Dec 20-22

Submitted by I Like Burgers on

In a surprise vote today (surprising because it was supposed to happen later in the summer), the NCAA approved the early 72-hour signing period, which will take place this year from Dec. 20-22.

Along with the rule, they also passed a period of early visits, from April to June in the year of the prospect's junior year.  Those will be availble to the recruits of the 2019 class and you'll start seeing those next spring.

The old signing day (first Wed. in Feb) remains intact.

Get ready for a new wave of crazy recruiting once the regular season wraps up.

RoseInBlue

May 8th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Could be good for smaller schools.  Could end up being just another play in the game for the blue bloods.  Could screw over recruits.  Could be a much better way for them to shut down their recruiting earlier.

We shall see.

I Like Burgers

May 8th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^

I think its good for just about everyone other than the SEC.  They were still opposed to the rule change.

But for smaller schools and the lower tier of power 5 schools, its good news.  Lets you know who is locked in, and lets schools that are good at scouting and can lock up under the radar recruits lock those guys in before another school scoops them up.

Although...coaches at those smaller/lower tier schools undergo a lot of coaching change at that time of the year, so you'll probably see things like ADs wait until Dec. 23rd to fire coaches so they can hold on to their recruits.  There's currently no out for those recruits that sign early.

Wolverine 73

May 9th, 2017 at 8:20 AM ^

I realize the same problem exists in February if a coach leaves, but not hard to imagine, as you say, a school hanging onto coaches until after 12/22. Seems as if there should be an out for a recruit from maybe 1/20-1/22 if the coach he signed with is fired or leaves. I doubt many top recruits will sign with unstable programs during the early signing period, so this could end up benefitting big, stable programs who can lock people down and then go after kids at tottering programs with renewed focus.

The Oxford Wolverine

May 8th, 2017 at 6:12 PM ^

Can't help but think that, unless they allow for repeals upon a coach's firing after early signing, the optics of whether a coach is on the hot seat may play more of a role in the early signee's decision.

WhoopinStick

May 8th, 2017 at 6:16 PM ^

I can see the shady schools saying they are only going to take "x" number of players at a certain position. Then after the players sign in the early period the school recruits additional players at that position.

ZooWolverine

May 8th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^

If a coach is on the hot seat, I think they'd either have trouble signing recruits in the early period. Plus, it'd be much harder for a new coach to pick up recruits out of the blue, since a lot of them will be locked in.

Which makes me wonder if more coaches will be fired mid-season rather than at the end. The problem there, of course, is that hiring a new coach mid-season is extremely hard unless they're promoted from within, which is unlikely in most firing situations. Whether it continues to happen after the season or gets moved forward, I think this probably adds a lot more tumult to replacing a coach.

rob f

May 8th, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^

In April-June---is it for the entire 3 full months? I hope this doesn't negatively affect Coach Harbaugh's travel plans for the Michigan Football team.

RoseInBlue

May 8th, 2017 at 6:56 PM ^

How effective are those months for visits, though?  Schools out.  No revenue sports going on.  Spring practice is over.  Most of the team isn't even on campus.  It's highly possible that I'm missing something so if anyone has any insight, please bring me your knowledge.

UMgradMSUdad

May 9th, 2017 at 7:03 AM ^

It gives an option for an earlier visit.  The requirement that they had to wait until their senior year of high school to take their official visit always seemed a bit odd to me.  Non-athletes are showing up in hoards for college visists in the summer before their senior year (many even the summer before their junior year). They get to see the facilities, eat in the cafeteria, take campus tours, talk to  advisors or professors in the major they want to pursue.  Why shouldn't student athletes have the same opportunity on their official visits?

For Michigan, I'm sure the team mom would be around, and, if they're setting up official visits, it would most likely be times when there are coaches and staffers around as well, and they likely would have more time to interact with the prospective student athletes than during a game day situation.  It at least gives the potential for some of these visits to occur when the students are on summer vacation (so not confined to just weekends) and there won't be the same rush to get to and from the university (imagine the rush following a Friday night high school game to get to a university for its Saturday game).  

lhglrkwg

May 8th, 2017 at 6:48 PM ^

Schools know exactly what positions they still need to fill in the last 3 months, and a lot less of the sad stories of kids getting dumped like 2 days before signing day. I would think we're going to see most guys signing on the early signing day very soon

True Blue Grit

May 9th, 2017 at 11:56 AM ^

I still think a lot of the really highly rated guys are still going to "play the field" up until January/February.  They want to see how the post season games go or maybe want to take more time to take trips.  I've always felt though that Michigan does better when they can get earlier commitments and not have to fight the SEC schools for kids on NSD.  Harbaugh has certainly made things more interesting though, I'll say that.  At least Michigan is now in it on some kids to the end.  

bluebrains98

May 8th, 2017 at 6:54 PM ^

I can see the biggest issue being the recruit who has been "committed" to a school for several months or more who decides to forego the early signing period. How will staffs handle these situations? Are they automatically moved to "soft commit" status? I think the early signing period is an excellent development, but I do wonder how coaching staffs (and fanbases) will treat the seemingly locked-in commits who do not sign early.

Nobody Likes a…

May 8th, 2017 at 7:32 PM ^

I know this is a redundant question, especially when dealing with all things NCAA, but how does this benefit the student athlete exactly? I know, I know it’s the NCAA, of course it doesn’t benefit the student athlete.

PutInPeters18

May 8th, 2017 at 8:34 PM ^

Do the visits count the same as the fall official visits? For example, did they just approve a change of when the recruits can take their 5 official visits, or did they also expand it to allow additional summer official visits?

flinttc

May 8th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^

I am not for the new signing date, if they do not do something for the athlete that commits to a Unversity, then the coach is fired or decides to take another position.  That player should be able to 1) not follow through on his commitment and 2) be able to play immediately wherever he transfers to without sitting out a year.  Coach can leave at will, and if a player loses the coach he pledged to, he should be able to as well.

PapabearBlue

May 9th, 2017 at 8:19 AM ^

I'm actually of the opinion that LOI's should be gotten rid of. That enrollment/eligibility shouldn't start until that person walks into their first real practice, and that scholarships should be required to be honored from the school for 5 years as long as the student decides to stay. Also, the year sit out rule for transfers needs to be gotten rid of.

Wolverine 73

May 9th, 2017 at 8:31 AM ^

Recruiting would continue all summer long, it would affect transfers (do we need a guy or do we have a freshman coming?), practices (do we need to move a guy to a new position, or can we rely on an incoming player), etc. Might put increased pressure on kids to show up for summer practice. It seems to me that the problem is not with the LOI so much as with the inability to get out of it matter what changes, and that some flexibility on that end would introduce a level of fairness to the athlete into the calculus.

uncleFred

May 8th, 2017 at 9:36 PM ^

is going to have both positives and negative consequences. 

None of us can clearly see the future. This will put schools and coaches in the position that offering non super star recruits will give them the opportunity to fill slots early. Just maybe that will bring more honesty to the offer process. I think that would be a good thing. 

My other guess is that it will rather profoundly change the pressures on heavily recruited hold outs and how coaches attempt to keep slots open for them. 

PapabearBlue

May 9th, 2017 at 8:16 AM ^

How does this benefit the student? Seriously, not trying to be a smartass but I just don't see it. So they can sign earlier before the coaches are fired after their bowl season/holidays?

A lot of people saying, "don't commit to a coach". That sentiment is dumb considering how many people on here also say, "who wouldn't want to play for harbaugh/staff and all of their nfl experience/success" or, "who would want to play for Brian Kelly"?

Kids commit to coaches all the time, I could see kids committing to Harbaugh and not Rich Rod, in fact, we did see it. Can you blame them?

So, serious question, how does this benefit the STUDENT?

reddogrjw

May 9th, 2017 at 8:37 AM ^

by locking in an offer or finding out it isn't committable with time to react

 

they also can end the recruiting madness by being signed as well

 

doesn't seem to be a problem for basketball - the elite kids don't have to sign because they know offers will still be there but it definitely helps the kids who are borderline for a program to get clarity