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January 9th, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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New Scout 300 Released

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=4&yr=2013&pid=88

EDIT : 16 (17 four-stars overall) Michigan commitments are in; the ones who aren't: Mike McCray (four-star), Ross Douglas, Channing Stribling, Jaron Dukes, Csont'e York, Da'Mario Jones and Scott Sypniewski. 

Hurst, Poggi, Lewis, Dawson, Fox, Charlton and Kugler are among those who moved up. 

Michigan has 3 of the top 7 offensive guards in the country according to their rankings as well. 

Derrick Green moved up to #1 RB and #6 overall. He is now the top rated running back according to Scout and Rivals. 

Shane Morris and Dymonte Thomas keep their five-star rankings. 

Recruit Files: Robert Foster

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:34 AM | This is unacceptable and I (Score:5 Normal)
NFG
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This is unacceptable and I won't stand for it. When will Hoke and Co. start recruiting on an international level so we can compete with the SEC?

 

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:01 PM | Well, they're recruiting that Candian QB, (Score:5 Normal)
hart20
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So I think that they've already started...

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:29 PM | y u so narrowminded (Score:1 Normal)
superstringer
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Actually, I hear of a SS from the Jovian moon Europa who's leaping ability is, shall we say, out of this world.  Go Interplanetary!

EDIT:  Heard he's already declared for Sparty, who, as you know, recruits intergalactically.

January 9th, 2013 at 12:50 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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January 9th, 2013 at 11:34 AM | Was McCray injured during the (Score:1)
Dilithium Wings
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Was McCray injured during the season because the buzz I've been hearing about him is that he is an absolute stud. I live near Dayton where he plays and people I've spoken to said he was just scary good.

January 9th, 2013 at 11:39 AM | I believe he was All-State in (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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I believe he was All-State in Ohio the past two years, and I believe won some type of defensive player of the year award his junior year.  Local scouts in Ohio hold him in high regard.

January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 AM | Didn't he play all year w/ a shoulder injury (Score:1)
m1jjb00
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I though he said he injured it his junior year and eschwed surgery then because he wanted to play his senior year.

January 9th, 2013 at 12:23 PM | Yeah he had a torn labrum (Score:2)
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Could have had surgery last year but would have missed his SR season. So he waited until after the season to do it.

 
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January 9th, 2013 at 11:41 AM | Huhhh? (Score:1)
Jake Ryan's Lef...
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No Mike McCray.....bogus!!

January 9th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | I believe Kids these days would say: (Score:5 Normal)
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That shit cray

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:50 AM | Not that it is really (Score:5 Normal)
Indonacious
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Not that it is really important to me, but McCray is still a 4* recruit. The last OLB in the top 300 is ranked #261 overall and #22 within OLBs and McCray is #24 within the OLBs so he isn't that far out of it. So, I think the drop is mostly due to his injury.

Also, the last 4* receiver (coincidentally Sebastian LaRue who there was some buzz about visiting) is ranked #43 among receivers and Jaron Dukes is #45 so he is almost a 4*.

Khalid Hill is also not too far from 4* territory, as the last 4* is ranked #14 among TEs and Hill is #18.

January 9th, 2013 at 11:43 AM | Actually 16 in scout 300, 17 (Score:1)
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Actually 16 in scout 300, 17 four stars. Hill is a 3 star still.

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:44 AM | In summary: (Score:5 Normal)
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January 9th, 2013 at 11:44 AM | Man, Scout really likes our (Score:5 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Man, Scout really likes our class.  I count 6 in the top 100 and three 5 starts.  Bump that up to 7 in the top 100 and 4 5 stars if Green commits.  Also, it seems Scout finally did away with the whole top-50 all get 5 stars.  Now it's only like 40; still a lot, but nice to see.

January 9th, 2013 at 11:47 AM | Nice (Score:1)
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Since I'm an insider on ESPN, but don't have pay content for any of the others I hear their rankings more than others (sorry I know people don't like ESPN...I'm a slow learner).  It's nice to see we could have three 5-stars (if we land Green).  That sounds drastically better than well...none.

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | Dumb question:  Is Scout (Score:1 Normal)
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Dumb question:  Is Scout generally recognized by most as being the most reliable of the recruiting services?

 

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:56 AM | General heirarchy:1. (Score:5 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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General heirarchy:

1. Rivals

2. Scout

3. ESPN (distant third)

247: not enough data to actually analyze.

Someone on this blog did some research and wrote a diary on this and that's what panned out as well.  Mathlete maybe?

January 9th, 2013 at 12:33 PM | I do remember the diary - it (Score:1 Normal)
profitgoblue
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I do remember the diary - it was tremendous.  I was wondering not in historically statistically correct way but more in a "respected in the business" kind of way.  But those two probably are (and should be) the same.

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January 9th, 2013 at 1:07 PM | Yeah, the general hierarchy (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Yeah, the general hierarchy Iisted seems to be the generally accepted one. I just mentioned the diary because it seemed to back up that thought. I know a lot of people like 247 because they hired some of the original Rivals guys when they started. I'm not sold on them personally yet.

January 9th, 2013 at 2:18 PM | I didn't think rivals had a (Score:1)
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I didn't think rivals had a midwest analyst?  if true, that puts them below 247 and scout IMO.  of course ESPN is at the bottom.  i use 247 the most, i like their composite rankings

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January 9th, 2013 at 3:01 PM | Not true.. (Score:1)
drewro02
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They hired Josh Helmholdt as their Midwest guy a few years ago. Tim Sullivan left mgoblog to replace Helmholdt.

January 9th, 2013 at 12:00 PM | As long as they keep our (Score:4 Normal)
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As long as they keep our class at #1 they are.

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:06 PM | I also like Scout (Score:4 Normal)
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I also like Scout because Sam Webb seems pretty plugged in to Michigan (Brian seems to confirm that) and I think Allen Trieu does a really good job in the midwest. 

Probably the best midwest guy, in my opinion, and is like his story. Started doing independent recruiting on his own website before recruiting was much of a thing. He is also a stand-up comedian, yes it is a thing.

The Beav can be an ass but it's not hard to ignore. Funny that I got rid of Scout when they revamped the website and then they undid the revamp.

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:35 PM | He's doing stand-up in Ann (Score:2)
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He's doing stand-up in Ann Arbor tomorrow too.

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January 9th, 2013 at 11:57 AM | If we get Derrick Green, he (Score:5 Normal)
Indonacious
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If we get Derrick Green, he is certainly one of the most highly touted (consensus) players we have gotten, which is especially exciting given he is at a position of need and one where true freshman can often step in and have an immediate impact.

January 9th, 2013 at 11:58 AM | Question for Tremendous (Score:3 Normal)
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Tremendous, is Rueben Foster a real prospect for Michigan? Obviously, with the all-star games, he had someone in his ear about going to the Wolverines. I would have to assume that Michigan would make room for him. But I don't know whether there is legitimate interest both ways. Thanks!

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:05 PM | Not aquaman but (Score:2)
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The consensus is that don't expect anything until a visit happens and then still don't expect anything to come from it.

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:09 PM | ... (Score:3 Normal)
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January 9th, 2013 at 12:20 PM | This (Score:3 Normal)
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This thread seems to indicate that his coaches are pushing him to look at other schools but that his mother wants him to stay in the South. If he visits, it might be worth discussing, but I'm betting on Georgia/Auburn/LSU at this point: LINK

Recruit Files: Robert Foster

January 9th, 2013 at 12:25 PM | Deveon Smith (Score:4 Normal)
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Isn't really mentioned much as we all fell in love with Ty Isaac's tape and then Derrick Green's lofty ranking, but I'm excited to see this kid suit up.  I didn't realize he was one of the top four-stars.

I'm no recruiting guru, but his film is truly impressive and not in the "he's twice as fast as everyone in high school so get to the second level and he gone" sense that doesn't really prove much. 

Still hoping Green joins the class too, obviously.

January 9th, 2013 at 3:14 PM | deveon is criminally (Score:1)
wiper
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deveon is criminally underrated on this board.

everyone falls in love with the new recruit, but he's been sitting there as a top 10 rb nationally forever now, and everyone is overlooking him.

obviously, his biggest issue is competition, as he played a lot of lower division schools, but in the games i saw he does not go down. his cuts aren't jaw-dropping but he seems to always cut at the right moment and then drag tacklers another 3 yards.

i'm curious if he has enough speed for the b1g, but if he pans out he'll remind people of mike hart: no breakaway speed but always gets 7 yards when he was only supposed to get 4.

January 9th, 2013 at 3:35 PM | I think you guys are (Score:2 Normal)
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I think you guys are definitely right about Smith being overlooked, but part of the excitement is that if we can land Derrick Green we will have an excellent RB class just when we need one. The top RB, another top 10-15 (based on the site) RB, and a utility big back in Shallman. With Fitz entering his senior year and off a bad injury and no real apparent heir to RB, having Green, Smith, and Shallman gives us a good chance that we land a good RB who can start as a sophomore and be an impact guy. Nonetheless, Smith is definitely someone to be excited about.

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:43 PM | Might Be Me (Score:2 Normal)
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But I just don't see where the threat is.

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January 9th, 2013 at 12:52 PM | Welcome to the MGoBoard (Score:4 Normal)
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Good to have you here, Coach Dantonio!

January 9th, 2013 at 1:24 PM | It will also be interesting (Score:1)
Indonacious
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It will also be interesting to see Rivals new rankings that should be out next week based on when they historically released their final rankings.

January 9th, 2013 at 1:32 PM | it should also be noted that (Score:2)
there_in_2005
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it should also be noted that Cameron Hunt made the list (something like #287 overall and #15 OG)...

January 9th, 2013 at 2:59 PM | UM still #1 on Scout (Score:1)
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Not sure if all team rankings reflect new individual rankings, but UM is on top.

Team rankings are important in the short term (lure other recruits, pride within the class, momentum with HS coaches, media). They also indicate if staffs are winning the top targets, the real playmakers and freaks who can decide big games.

In the long run, they don't matter as the recruiting is only judged by wins and losses.

Congrats to Hoke & company for restoring UM's image with recruits.

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January 9th, 2013 at 4:42 PM | Green and Smith + O-line (Score:2)
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THE RRod offense with Denard and their ability to score in a hurry was fun to watch.  However, I am SUPER excited about the prospect of Green/Smith tandem 1-2 punch + amazing O-line = wearin out their defense and demoralizing them. It will be pure joy.

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