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New Scout 300 out

Kyle Kalis- 34

James Ross- 74

Royce Jenkins-Stone- 121

Tom Strobel- 126

Erik Magnuson- 133

Jarrod Wilson- 153

Terry Richardson- 163

Kaleb Ringer- 206

Devin Funchess- 224

Joe Bolden- 236

Mario Ojemudia- 278

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:09 PM | Thanks in advance.... (Score:3 Normal)
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I'd be interested to see the +/- movement if anyone out there has that information.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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July 27th, 2011 at 3:29 PM | Here are a few (Score:5 Normal)
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James Ross: +0

Royce Jenkins-Stone: +54 (was #175)

Tom Strobel: +43 (was #169)

Erik Magnuson: -36 (was #97)

Terry Richardson: -9 (was #154)

Kaleb Ringer: +1 (was #207)

Devin Funchess: -79 (was #145)

Joe Bolden: +3 (was #239)

Mario Ojemudia: -91 (was #187)

I don't have records of what Kalis or Wilson were in th prior rankings

'Cats comin' for y'all

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:14 PM | Thats a really solid group. (Score:1)
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Thats a really solid group. I'm not very surprosed that Richardson got bumped down a bit (I think he did, anyway. He was very high on one of the sites, at least), and its nice to see Funchess on there.

 

Edit: 

Notable 5 Stars:

Kyle Kalis, Sheldon Day (will be at BBQ), Brionte Dunn (will also be at BBQ), Zach Banner (I believe were still recruiting him hard), and Jordan Diamond (might be at BBQ)

COYS and lets go Detroit FC!

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:10 PM | Also would love to see where (Score:1)
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Also would love to see where our remaining prospects stand: Diamond, Wormley, Pipkins, O'Brien, etc.

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:12 PM | Here you go (Score:5 Normal)
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Diamond- 45

Pipkins- 102

O'Brien- 116

Wormley- 157

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:16 PM | Others (Score:5 Normal)
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Andrus Peat- 3

Adolphus Washington- 18

Josh Garnett- 38

Zach Banner- 39

Sheldon Day- 46

Yuri Wright- 51

Aziz Shittu- 67

Jordan Payton- 90

Devin Fuller- 131

Amara Darboh- 159

Ron Thompson- 199

Monty Madaris- 254

Dwayne Stanford- 264

 

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:16 PM | No offense to Strobel, (Score:2 Normal)
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No offense to Strobel, Ringer, and Funchess, they are all terrific prospects and I am glad they are committed to Michigan, but if their rankings are 126, 206, and 224 respectively, their is no way that Bolden is 236.

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:03 PM | Strobel (Score:2 Normal)
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got an OSU offer and Bolden, reportedly, wasn't even close.  Seems like Strobel gets a lot less hype than some of the others, but, in my estimation, he's one of the biggest commitments and potentially a 4-year starter at SDE.

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:14 PM | TSIO told Bolden he was too (Score:1)
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TSIO told Bolden he was too small...lulz.

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July 27th, 2011 at 3:22 PM | I think that was Notre Dame (Score:3 Normal)
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I think that was Notre Dame not OSU.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:19 PM | Wow. That's great. M could be (Score:1)
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Wow. That's great. M could be pulling 15 out of the top 300. Pretty hard to beat, except by Texas and Bama. Diamond seems to be heading steadily northward. I've gotta believe he's our final o-line guy, unless a five-star decides to jump the line.

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:21 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:4 Normal)
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I have some of the previous rankings:



Kalis 21

Ross 73

Magnuson 96

RJS 115

Richardson 149

Strobel 211

Bolden 238



Don't know about the others.

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:22 PM | I can't believe Kalis fell (Score:2)
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I can't believe Kalis fell that far.  That seems weird to me.

Me fail english thats unpossible!

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July 27th, 2011 at 5:48 PM | Conspiracy (Score:1)
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Is it the osu decommitment? Even though his offers remain the same, that might have an unfair effect. I'd hope not, but I have no idea how else to explain it.

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July 27th, 2011 at 9:33 PM | Easy (Score:1)
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He's not really camping.  You'll see people make jumps usually because of camps.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:26 PM | Strobel and Bolden the only (Score:1)
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Strobel and Bolden the only ones that you listed that went up. The other six went down, even if it was just a bit...

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:36 PM | Holy jumping Strobels though (Score:1)
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that's an 85 spot move

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:22 PM | Thanks turd. (Score:3 Funny)
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Thanks turd.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:25 PM | Other notables (Score:2)
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Washington - 18 (5*)

Day - 46 (5*)

Shittu - 67 (4*)

Burbridge - 112 (4*)

Reeves - 135 (4*)

Ron Thompson -199 (4*)

Madaris - 254 (4*)

Stanford -264 (4*)

 

EDIT: seems I take longer to research than others

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:27 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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Joined: 07/07/2011
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The opening really hurt a bunch of players stock. A few of note:

Stanford dropped around 20 spots in WR rankings

Manguson dropped on scout and Espn

TR dropped a little bit

Shittu has really fallen and scout and Espn also

Obrien on the other hand seems to be helping his stock.

Tremendous 2014 rankings

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:27 PM | That's because he hasn't (Score:4 Normal)
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That's because O'Brien hasn't committed to Michigan yet...

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:36 PM | JC Shurbutt of... (Score:2)
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....247Sports was talking up O' Brien on Bill King's Sirius/XM show this morning, but it was in the context of an answer to an Iowa fan's question about potential Hawkeye commitments. He never mentioned Michigan or O'Brien's attendance at the BBQ this weekend, so I didn't take it to mean that Iowa had any special advantage.

Shurbutt also had nice things to say about Shane Morris based on his Gridiron Kings performance, but we knew that already from the post-event writeups.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:18 PM | Sherbert. (Score:3 Normal)
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Sherbert.

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July 27th, 2011 at 1:46 PM | Wayne Morgan (Score:2 Insightful)
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I'm not quite sure what he was ranked before but he is now a 3 star and the #43 safety...i had read that he didn't perform well recently and this may be an indication

 

Also not in the top 300

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:15 PM | Man I do not understand the (Score:1)
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Man I do not understand the huge discrepancies that exist between Scout and Rivals.

For example, isn't Magnuson the 30th player nationally to Rivals?  And he's 133 to Scout??

Granted, yes, they are 2 different services and do their own scouting, but, it seems like there'd be more consensus between the 2 sites.  A difference of 5-10....even 20....spots I could understand, but 100?  Sheesh.  At that point, how do you know which one to believe?

(Easy answer is, "Whichever one ranks our player higher."  But really....which ranking has more credibility?)

 

CJK5H

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:19 PM | I don't know much about (Score:3 Insightful)
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I don't know much about either site but I do know that Scout has a midwest analyst while Rivals does not so go with Scout for midwest guys and rivals in the other areas (I'm assuming that since Rivals doesn't focus on one area of the country, they focus more heavily in the others, i.e. south and the west).

Me fail english thats unpossible!

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:22 PM | I think they should all do (Score:5 Normal)
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I think they should all do what ESPN did with Houma.  As soon as a player commits to Michigan, move them to 3rd at their position (or higher please).

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:30 PM | There are 250,000 or so (Score:5 Normal)
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There are 250,000 or so senior High school football players a year.  About 2500 get I-AA scholarships.  I think some slop in the ranking is to be expected (I'm not sure how you settle on a top 100 or even top 300 from a group of 250,000).

My approach is to pay special attention to the consensus top guys, and then look more at offer lists that rankings after that.

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July 27th, 2011 at 2:57 PM | How does 2500 kids going to 1-AA (Score:1 Normal)
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effect Michigan? We don't play App State anymore...

Yes...that guy.

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July 27th, 2011 at 3:00 PM | Yeah, should be I-A.  Thanks. (Score:2)
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Yeah, should be I-A.  Thanks.

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July 27th, 2011 at 3:28 PM | RAVEN (Score:2)
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RAVEN

(sorry to be that guy)

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July 27th, 2011 at 4:27 PM | (I'm not sure how you settle (Score:2)
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(I'm not sure how you settle on a top 100 or even top 300 from a group of 250,000).

I've wondered about their methodology as well. Presumably, they must have "guys on the ground" that feed them info, but sorting it all out has got to be a grind. For basketball, they've at least got the summer AAU circuit to compare the big names. Football seems to involve a lot more guesswork.

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July 27th, 2011 at 4:31 PM | Guesswork and being, (Score:2)
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Guesswork and being, necessarily, limited to guys who attend camps/7 on 7's or play in programs that have lots of D-1 talent and are scouted in person regularly.

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July 27th, 2011 at 3:06 PM | You (Score:2 Normal)
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also have to take into account the fact that each individual scouting service may see the player perform at different times and places. Rivals could've seen one of Magnuson's better performances or Scout could've seen one of his worst (probably not worst, but you know what I mean).

"Vegeta, what does the scanner say about Denard Robinson's power level?"

"It's OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!"

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July 27th, 2011 at 5:10 PM | Rankings change for only top 300?? (Score:1)
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May be I just have to be a little more patient, but I was under the impression that Ben Braden was thought to be moving up to a 4-star. I dont know for sure but do these new rankings mean that only the 300 were shuffled or were other moves either up or down seen as well?

I know TomVH, who I think is prooooobably in the know, suggested that the new 6'7'' 325lbs Braden is someone in line to move in the right direction.

Also a bit OT but does anyone have any info on any LIONS news as far signing any players??

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July 27th, 2011 at 5:29 PM | 10th? wow (Score:0 Trolling)
Irish
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10th? wow

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July 27th, 2011 at 7:15 PM | reffering to Darby? (Score:1)
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where was he before/ whats your take on him

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July 28th, 2011 at 6:56 PM | I thought he was top 50, I (Score:0 Trolling)
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I thought he was top 50, I mean he had a great showing at last weekend's event and has a ton of speed, see my sig, but I am not sure he is top 10 in the country.  Certainly take it though

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