Well, let's hope that Hoke has a good relationship with McClure and can reel him in. Would be a great addition with the recent departures.
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He'd make up for the loss of Dallas Crawford.
Hoke is behind the 8-ball, but I hope he finishes strong.
McClure has said he's talked to former UM CB Leon Hall, who went to same HS, about Michigan but all was said was that UM was good fit for Hall n in end McClure must make best decision for him....I think we have great chance for him if the visit goes well...He currently lists Boise St, Cal, UCLA, n Mich as top 4 on scout....he's visited Oregon state, Colorado, washington n Boise already
I say we go with the classic "rankings don't count" and "revis was a 3 star" routine today.
Mike Hart was a 3 star too!?!?!?
Shoelace was a 4-star, but at CB. Wonder if he'd even be rated/ranked as a QB...
Take a look at M's recent top 100 recruits, per Scou (major contributors in bold, Those Who Did Not Stay in italics, no judgment rendered on the rest (albeit charitably so in the non-2010 cases):
- 2010: Devin Gardner, Cullen Christian, Josh Furman (no flameouts, but none made major contributions as freshman)
- 2009: J.T. Turner, Will Campbell, Craig Roh
- 2008: BooBoo Cissouko, Brandon Smith, Sam McGuffie, Daryl Stonum.
- 2007: Ryan Mallett, Donovan Warren, Tony Clemons, Ryan Van Bergen, Michael Williams
- Scout is not so good at rating.
- Landing a top-100 recruit is no gaurantee of success (current most-likely-to-be-drafted-the-first-round, Taylor Lewan, was ranked 280-something)
- Michigan is either snake-bitten in recruiting or not doing something right on the coaching side, given the a high propensity for flaming out highly rated prospects.
We just ran into some bad luck, that's all.
You need guys that are hard workers and fit your system.
I consider Donovan Warren to have been a contributor.
fair enough. And Ryan Mallet did enough of the right things to help beat Penn State with Henne nursing an injury in his (Ryan's) freshman year.
Frost has dropped substantially...wow.
too high on scout. rivals is where he's top 50.
Never pay too much attention to Scout (mainly Rivals) but you would think there wouldn't be as much disgreement between the two.
One may be ranking him as a WR (where he has expressed interest in playing) and the other as a LB (where many project him to be most successful)
Rivals ranks Frost as an ATH given his flexibility between WR and LB. Nearly all services agree his real future is at LB.
Seems to me that defensive recruits are their only concern right now.
Shouldn't getting a DC be a concern also? As part of getting defensive recruits?
Where is Leonidas?
Pssh. Forget Leonidas. I wanna know where Godot is.
Other names of "interest": AZ OG Cyrus Hobbi, MD DT Darrien Cooper, CA WR Devin Lucien, GA DE Ray Drew, FL TB/CB Tre Mason, and FL S Karlos Williams.
Other than the OP's list, and these six - UM is essentially absent from the lists of the Top 300.
Also, Scout lists K. Jones, Countess, and Fisher as soft commits
that could be names of "interest"...
I thought Karlos Williams was FSU all the way... guess I was not 100% correct...
If Hoke could just steal one of these guys I'd feel better... I need that sort of gratification... warranted or not.
Noticed that Michigan is a "School of Interest" for not-yet-committeds Ray Drew (5* DE from GA, #33 overall) and Christian Westerman (5* OL from AZ, #17 overall). Can we dream?
(Also, Didn't realize that Jernigan hasn't committed yet. Any chance he'd re-open to us since the CC, or was that the problem in the first place?)
Westerman is and will be a Longhorn.
The Drew ship has also sailed.
Jernigan will likely be a Seminole or Gator.
Damn man, we are grasping at straws today, don't rain on our parade.
Sorry. Just trying to inform my fellow MGoBloggers.
well dang, then
Proof that the drew ship has sailed?
He hasn't visited Michigan, hasn't set up a visit to Michigan, was considering us because of Avery Walls (who isn't coming here anymore), and I believe someone else (Tom maybe?) said so.
That interest was from when RR was coach. Hoke "Peaced" Lucien, Cooper dropped us with the coaching change, Drew interest was because of Walls who didn't like the uncertainty' and the other three were also RR guys. Fisher decommitted and isn't a soft verbal.
McClure would be a nice pickup with the departure of Crawford.
For those of you more knowledgable than me, has Michigan ever had a worse recruiting class? No offense to any of the young men that have committed of course! I mean as a whole, not its separate parts.
the top 30.
No doubt this will be our lowest rated class as a whole in a long time. Part of that is simply because of the size, part of that is because we've sucked for the last three years, and part of that is because of the coaching change (and timeliness of it).
Things we need to d oto have a better class next year - don't suck, and don't change coaches.
with not sucking and not changing coaches next year. That sounds like a terrible plan.
The size of the class isn't the problem. We have enough spaces for a good class - they just need to be filled.
RR was still recruiting well. Tim had us rated just behind OSU, ND and Nebraska before he was fired - and that was while he was being held back by uncertainty about his status.
I think our problem is almost entirely a result of Brandon's screwup.
Hoke is in a very difficult position so I will agree that this is likely to be our worst class in my memory.
And Lucien is the #45 WR.
I thought his Senior highlight reel was ABSURDLY awesome, but ESPN has him ranked lower than Scout, so the opinion on him is definitely mixed. Seems like the new staff should know him well since they offered and he was essentially in their backyard...
I think they get a pass on Lucien...until he starts putting up crazy numbers at UCLA.
Look, I wanted to get Lucien too, but take a look at his offer list, or more specifically, the Pac Ten schools that didn't offer him, and you'll see why he's not ranked higher, and likely why he didn't get an offer from us either.
are we really competing with USC right now? Yes, even with their probation?
The truth is we are all fans who want UM to perform well each Sat afternoon, but we are only fans. We are not in any meetings, prep rooms, weight rooms, film rooms or on the field with any current players. In addition we are not scouts traveling the country watching actual games, watching full game tape, not an edited highlight tape. These coaches are getting paid for a reason. We lost recruits because we started 5-0 and then started losing, losing caused anxiety in recruits not a coaching change. Lets trust the coaching staff that they are building a program that will succeed now and in the future. Point being with Lucien, although his tape looked impressive, great hands and body control he didn’t strike me as being quick or fast.. But as stated if you are on the west coast and don’t have offers from USC,
The new coaching staff told him they want him at D-Back and he wants to be a receiver so he eliminated us. Thought I saw that either in a TomVH note or Rivals article last night.
Does McClure project as a CB, or a possible FS?
Is the number 37 overall, 5 star, DE. When did he get switched over to DE, I thought he was a MLB prospect all the way?
Saw that too. No, he wasn't always a DE, I believe he just got changed from MLB to DE. Not sure what his best position would be. Doran Grant got downgraded from a 5* to a 4*.
Doran Grant had some struggles on the camp circuit.
It's about time he was switched. I doubt he's a MLB at the next level.
And in the baseless speculation department, is there a 1% chance Arnett becomes a possibility again?
His issue w/ UM was lack of pro offense, at the very least, we're moving to a hybrid Pro Offense next year...and having two 1,000 yard recievers this last year at SDSU can't hurt the pitch...
Dooley gave him an in-home visit yesterday, that might lead one to believe there may be a crack in the armor? Pretty please?
Not sure how accurate it is, I believe several people have said that DA was just messing with people (again).
This board may rip on Golden alot right now but...
What this class really needs is a drop of Hokey Oil that ends up lasting 8 days.
They got Thomas Rawls numbers wrong. For some reason it says 450 carries when really he only had 150.
Good catch nowayguy. I check too, and Thomas Rawls had 150 carries. Doesn't anyone pay attention to details these days?
Scout hired George O'Leary to compile the HS stats.
I think there is a very big chance that Jones stays committed to UM. He is going to be a big contributor for this team in the future. He just has the football mentality and physical presence that is much needed on our defense. Plus, he has always loved Michigan. I can't wait to see him in the maize and blue.
Article up on Rivals where Jones reaffirms his committment to UofM.
Reminds me of Chris Graham. Or possibly a shorter Shawn Crable.
Scout doesn't like him very much, 3* and #31 DE. Rivals has him 4* and #4 DE
I know he was going to visit recently, then probably wasn't coming (I think this was the lost weekend after the RR fire), but are we out of it? As of 12/29, it was Penn State, UGA, and M
I believe Penn State leads us for this top DE.
Unless Hoke can wave a magic wand and pry him away from next yr's defending national champions, let's not talk anymore frost cause he's looking more like a long shot since they accepted his commitment
I'm late to the party but all I have to say is FUCK!