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June 13th, 2011 at 12:26 PM
#302
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(snaps fingers) chips,

(snaps fingers) chips, smokes, and the link, lets go.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
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chips and smokes are on you...

Link is on me:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitmen...

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
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Better

Better link

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2012/michigan-29

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
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Even better link

http://bacolicio.us//

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:02 PM
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Nosce Te Ipsum
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touché

touché

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:11 PM
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Best Link?

Best Link? http://bacolicio.us//http:///rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/footbal...

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
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Not even close

http://realultimatepower.net/

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
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I now love that site with

I now love that site with every part of my body, including my pee pee.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
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Access Denied

Got all the way to your link before finally getting "access denied".  Stupid work.

/Shakes fist at sky

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
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They have a ninja filter

on your network?

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June 13th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
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apparently

Apparently they think it is a porn link or something.  I was not able to get in but was excited about it.  NOw that i know it's ninja's I'm happy to move on.  I was hoping for naked chicks eating bacon.

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June 13th, 2011 at 7:41 PM
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the net filter is the new fan dance

unfulfilled promises.  Shouldn't have used that flesh-toned background for my website.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
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friggin..

I knew it was going to do that, and neglected to select the correct year before dropping the link. Well played.

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
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Much butter link

or should I say, a better strip? If it were a breakfast sausage it would be a better link.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
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they've ranked a few three

they've ranked a few three stars at each position, but still not many.  for instance, i'm surprised that kaleb ringer still isn't ranked.

wormley was the lone SDE given a 3rd star.  so they have him on the precipice of a 4th.

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
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WTF are they

waiting for with Ringer and Ojemudia? Ojemudia is an Army All American. He's not an Under Armor All American, but how hard can it be to rate him at least a low 4. Get with the program RIvals!

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:30 PM
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So you mean we now have two

So you mean we now have two 3* guys on the team... unacceptable!

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:33 PM
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Um...what about Mario? He's a

Um...what about Mario? He's a player. How is he not ranked yet?

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:40 PM
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I feel as though he'll be a

I feel as though he'll be a four star to Rivals since he's playing the AA game.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:45 PM
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i feel

Rivals gives preference to all americans too, I think he is deserving of the fourth star...hes a tackling machine.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:49 PM
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I thought Rivals ranked all

I thought Rivals ranked all the four stars, and then all the three stars. Since they are now ranking three stars, does that mean they don't consider Mario a four-star?

I was thinking along the same lines as you guys. Since he's playing in an AA game, most services will rank him a four-star player.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:06 PM
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These rankings are not set is

These rankings are not set is stone.  He will probably get ranked maybe even become a 4 star once the update their rankings.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
#324
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It's now showing Ben Braden

It's now showing Ben Braden as 3-stars, was he already 3-star? Perhaps they are just in the middle of doing it right now.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:38 PM
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lets liveblog it

lets liveblog it

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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rivals.com is blind to the midwest

This happens when all your midwest guys leave to start 247Sports.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:39 PM
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Only ranked as 3-star?

Well time to pull their scholarships.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:43 PM
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I think

I think they are adding them now by position.  So they probably went through all offense skills positions.  Now Line (which is why Braden has just showed up).  They will then go to Defense.  This makes sense since there's no article or announcement for the 3 stars.  So we can literally watch Rivals add their rankings in real time.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
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FYI

rivalsdotcom Rivals

@christiansack The position rankings are being updated as we speak, state rankings next week, team rankings to follow.

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:47 PM
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Can someone explain..

why AJ Williams is ranked exactly the same as Funchess?

Funchess is a prototypical TE, with the 40 time and receiving #s to match it..

And im not convinced that AJ WIlliams wont end up as a OG or a blocking TE exclusively

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June 13th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
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Different types of TEs, but

Different types of TEs, but both good at the part they play.  It's like scout ranking all QBs under one category instead of pro-style and dual threat, or players like Shittu and Pipkins both being DTs, though they wil be different types of DTs in college.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:15 PM
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Exactly - not every guy at

Exactly - not every guy at each position is going to play the same style.  Compare a guy like Bri'onte Dunn and that kid from Dr Phillips who went to Alabama whose name I've forgotten.  One is 6'2" and 220 and one is 5'8" and maybe 180, but both are running backs.  Sometimes you want a small, quick type back and sometimes you want a bowling ball.

Same goes for TEs.  Both of those guys have strengths and weaknesses.  Funchess has the receiving numbers, but he's 205lbs and will need a few years to get the bulk necessary to block on the line.  Williams has all the size already to play TE in the Big Ten, but might never be a major receiving threat.  However, what each of them do well, they do very well, and Rivals feels they'll be somewhat equally valuable.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
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Ha - Dr. Phillips

That shifty runner in the backfield...Nick Patti?

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:18 PM
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Which makes sense

At some point, it's hard to project and differentiate kids.  Ranking is probably hard enough withot having to determine whether the kid is the #3 WDE-who-could-play-OLB-in-a-3-4-defense"  or the #4 WDE-who-could-bulk-up-and-play-some-3-tech-DT.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:13 PM
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Caleb Stacey

Now a 3-star, 5.7

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:19 PM
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Still waiting on Mario,

Still waiting on Mario, Ringer, Standifer, Godin and Gant.  I expect all but Gant to be high 3 stars as well, guys who could be 4's as the season goes on.  For whatever reason, the sights don't seem to like Gant, but I'm OK with that.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
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As discussed before, an

As discussed before, an injury and his multiple positions hurt Gant.  Sites are having troubles on what to rank him, much like Mario.

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June 13th, 2011 at 5:44 PM
(Reply to #29) #338
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They just gave Gant a 5.7

They just gave Gant a 5.7 3-star rating.  I'm pleasantly surprised, but I think he is that good.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
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I also noticed recently that

I also noticed recently that Rivals has upped their listed weight for Godin from 265 to 270.  Not that 5 pounds is a lot, but at the very least it's a good indicator that his weight has been accurate from the get go.  It also ups his chances of playing a 3-tech, since he might be over 280 before he even steps on campus.

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June 13th, 2011 at 3:54 PM
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He was 253 when he committed.

He was 253 when he committed.  So he added 12 pounds . . . and then another 5.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
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Godin's new nickname

Godin's new nickname: Latimer.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
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That was a horrible

That was a horrible movie.

Not only because it was genuinely a horrible movie, but it revealed American youths' stupidity when those kids got killed trying to re-enact the part where the players laid down in the middle of the road.

"Hey, I've got an idea!  Let's cast a short, slow, noodle-armed quarterback as a Heisman candidate!  It will be totally believable, guys!  This movie's gonna be a hit!"

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
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The Program

Great movie, are you serious?

Yes, I recall that tragedy and they deleted that scene from the movie.  But are you serious?  Joe Kane?  Tim "All the" Weiman (Michigan Heisman Trophy Winner), Alvin Mack calling out his assignments, Darnell Jefferson as starting tailback?

I much more enjoy reading the opinions of Tim, Tom and DG Destroys who don't blurt out their random opinions about every minor posting on the board.  I feel like those guys are more respectful.  Magnus, while I believe that you provide a valuable service to the board, you don't let your work speak for itself.  Rather, you have to engage in every little debate and make it sound like your opinion is worth more than others.

For the sake of the board, please take a lesson from Tim, Tom, and DG Destroys -- who let their hard work speak for itself.

 

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June 13th, 2011 at 5:59 PM
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WTF are you talking

WTF are you talking about?

You say Latimer, I say that was a horrible movie, you respond with the comment "Great movie, are you serious?"...

...and somehow you're now accusing me of being intolerant of others' opinions?

Look in the mirror.

I know, I know...you still hate me because I said the state of New Jersey sucks.  You'll probably never get over that and you'll hate me forever because I don't like your home state.  I can live with that.

But you can save the sermon.  I couldn't care less whether you think I'm "respectful" or not.  Your anger over my dislike of the movie "The Program" has approximately a zero percent chance of altering my posting habits.

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June 13th, 2011 at 6:02 PM
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New Jersey fucking sucks.

If that state sunk into the Atlantic Ocean approximately 6 people would miss it and/or the people who live there.

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June 13th, 2011 at 6:10 PM
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Thanks

Magnus, for being a class act. 

Just please do me a favor and act more like DG Destroys.

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June 13th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
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Matt Godin

3 star 5.7

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
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Godin is a 3-star, 5.7.

Godin is a 3-star, 5.7.

EDIT:  Jinx.

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
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Mario should be as well

I think Rivals is still updating

 

Ben Braden just awarded 3 Star with 5.7 rating as well

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
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Rivals is slow

Man Rivals sure is slow to evaluate players. How have they not evaluated Kaleb Ringer and Mario Ojemudia, let alone Allen Gant and Anthony Standifer?  It is not like these guys are under the radar players. And Mario/Ringer are highly rated guys, while Standifer has blown up over the last month or so.  They all have some major offers.  Rivals just really tends to do a poor job of evaluating Midwest talent.  

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
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Apparently it's because they

Apparently it's because they don't have a dedicated midwest analyst.  Which seems like a poor business model to me, but hey what do I know?

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
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Not a poor business model

Not a poor business model when you have year round, wall-to-wall coverage of college football in Alabama, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee.  With the midwest, major programs are much more few and far between.  You have Ohio and Michigan as the major college football states in the midwest.

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
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Maybe...

But kids from Ohio and Michigan get recruited by schools nationwide.  The employers might be in the south, but the talent is spread somewhat evenly.

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June 13th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
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True, however, it's all about

True, however, it's all about the dolla dolla billz.

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June 13th, 2011 at 3:15 PM
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Standifer

Standifer is almost guaranteed to be a 4* before the final rankings are done.  But he'll probably start off as a 3*  But the guys on Rivals are very high on him

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June 13th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
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Ringer a 3*

Ringer just got a 5.7 3 star rating

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
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Mario not rated yet

Have they not done DEs?  I would be surprised if Mario didn't get a 5.7.  Especially since he's an Army AA.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
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Standifer is a 3-star, 5.7

Standifer is a 3-star, 5.7 rating.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:42 PM
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Gant is a 5.7 3 star now

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
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Holding out hope Ojemudia

Holding out hope Ojemudia gets a random 5.8 4-star since he is an Army All-American.

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June 13th, 2011 at 5:48 PM
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Why would that be random?

Why would that be random? He's a 4 star on Scout and an ESPN 150 watchlist'er.

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June 13th, 2011 at 7:40 PM
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Because Rivals ranked most all, if not all of their 4 stars already.

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June 13th, 2011 at 4:55 PM
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It seems 5.7 is the highest

It seems 5.7 is the highest 3-star and 5.8's are all 4 stars. So far, every single one of our 3 stars is a 5.7 which means they're right on the line. So any 3 star players we're taking could be 4 stars with an impressive camp or season.

(include standard disclaimer about recruiting rankings not being the be-all-and-end-all of football)

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June 13th, 2011 at 5:36 PM
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the early returns seem great.

the early returns seem great. last year only 3/13 3* guys were 5.7 (7 were 5.5s). As of now, all eight 3* guys in the 2012 class are 5.7. Pretty astounding. That means our class breaks down into entirely 4* and 3 3/4* guys more or less.

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June 13th, 2011 at 7:55 PM
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Yep

Early returns look great, but last year several guys who committed early were given higher ranks that slowly slid over time.  EG:  Hollowell was a 4*, Greg Brown and Chris Rock both had 5.7; all 3 dropped over time.  Senior campaigns may have played a role in some of the drops.

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:45 PM
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User Ratings

This is a little off topic.. but compare the user ratings for the Ohio commits and Michigan commits. Something tells me that Rivals' subscribers consist of more Michigan fans than OSU fans..

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