Plus one to you for the response but im not even going to read the article couse it will get me mad over something that its not worth gettin mad for "the free press".
A new "respected" voice emerges at the Freep to trash M over Dorsey
I've read McCabe for years. Am very disappointed. I sent him the following email. Hat tip to the OP, from which I borrowed liberally:
Mick: I've been a reader of yours for years and have enjoyed your work. On your Dorsey article of today, I respect your opinion though I do not agree with it. However, I think you crossed a line and challenged the intellectual honesty of Michigan supporters (including me). You wrote this to end your article on Dorsey:
My question to them is simple: What would be their reaction if Dorsey had signed with Michigan State?
I know exactly what I would say if Dorsey was signed by MSU, nothing. Just like I did when MSU signed Glenn Winston. And BTW, that was exactly the position taken by you and your paper. Even though Winston served 6 months in prison for an assult which sent a kid to the hospital. This just before he set foot on campus! Yet MSU brought him in and faced no outrage from any quarter. Not Michigan fans. Not you or your paper. So please, as a decades long reader tell me, Mick, what changed?
I will let you all know if McCabe has the decency to respond.
was perfect. Well done... Freaking Fpress D'bags.... I think all the sports reports there all stand around and circle jerk each other trying to cum up with the best way to write trash and lies about the UofM.... Bunch of a-holes...
I guess they don't believe in second chances. What a shame.
They believe in second chances, but only if you've served time for assaulting people and you wear green on saturdays.
guy and we shouldn't give him any more "fame" than he deserves. Ignore the fool!
This story has run its course. It is so overdone. I know they want to keep the buzz alive by adding new writers to the story, but last I checked, signing day was more than a week ago. McCabe is late to the party.
Just a note on the original post: Winston served following his first season playing for MSU. The altercation that eventually resulted in his arrest occurred toward the end of his freshman season.
This gives me hope that the Free Press will still run my op-ed piece on the Rhianna-Chris Brown incident.
Comparing UofM to msu is not comparing apples to apples. MSU now has a history of players with assault and other charges, UofM does not (yes we had Grady and Cissoko, but nothing that is putting people into hospitals). I think that in itself would warrant a different response. This bias from the freep is sickening. Time will tell how this story ends up, hopefully with the No Fly Zone proving people wrong. I'm excited for the talent Dorsey brings, and hope he can influence others from his area to come to UofM in the future.
about the great nerd massacre, starring one carson butler, and the marlin jackson punch in the head incident.
Still, I think the difference between UM and MSU are 1) the responses to the indiscretions and 2) the lack of a pattern, in UM's case, of these sorts of incidents.
Please, stop reading the freep.... There are no journalistic repercussions for them posting this dribble other than losing readers and thus revenue.
They are no different than a celebrity rag magazine. Take lightening bolt names (UofM, RR / Bradglina, lohan): publish a story that will support the dislike group and cause supporters to become enraged. It's the new model of the business.
So, instead of reading/reacting/ going to their comment section 50 times a day and generating click revenue for them: STOP.
I do find a lot of appeal in the "michigan is better than that" meme. I think Bo/Mo/Lloyd ran such a great program. It was clean-ish, and had only minor problems. I don't want Michigan to turn into the Rick Neuheisel Washington Huskies.
But, I haven't seen evidence that is happening. There have been some problems, like everywhere, and RichRod has handled them harshly. As he should.
Dorsey should be given a chance to get out of a bad place, around bad people, and make himself something. Ann Arbor is a great place for that.
If he doesn't start to turn it around, doesn't want to work, he should move on.
But to say Michigan is too good for him is insulting to him, and simply projects an elitist attitude on UMich, that lil' brother thinks is there.
"I got negbombed for thinking it was wrong that our great public university offered a full ride scholarship to this kid just cause he's a potentially very good football player."
Just like every other player on the team? Thinking that M is better than taking a kid whop has had some troubles but is making an effort to better himself is exactly the sort of entitled bullshit attitude that everyone harps on Michigan fans for having. Way to prove Sparty, Buckeyes, and everyone else right.
However, I do have a problem in your application of said principle. Had Michigan accepted a LOI from someone like Willie Williams (remember him from a few years back?), I would've had a fit. This kid had 10 arrests in 5 years, including 2 felonies; was on 18 month probation; and was charged with a felony and 2 misdemeanors stemming from an out-of-control recruiting visit to Florida, all while on probation.
Demar Dorsey, OTOH, has been clean for 2 years and publicly stated he's looking forward to get away from the negative influences back home.
The beginning of your post made my brain hurt. UM has a history of offering full-ride scholarships to kids who are potentially very good football players. I think lots of schools do it.
UM fans with half a brain got "pissy" when McCabe attempts to put words in our mouths, accuses us of being hypocritical while ignoring a MASSIVE hypocrisy at the freep which he now has officially contributed to.
To break this down like Dimitri Martin, we'll play a game called "OK or Asshole"
-Having an opinion = OK
-Denigrating an 18 yo just to sell papers = Asshole
-Doing research to back up your opinion = OK
-Making wild and libelous accusations without research = Asshole
-Making wilde and libelous accusations after doing research to back up your opinion...= still an asshole, but you're ok with me.
you got negbombed for expressing a wrong headed opinion. and apparently again trying to pass your (and the "respected" mccabe's) opinion for fact.
a pissy michigan fan
Why don't "we" allow it to "die" of its own accord instead of dictating the time frame to others. What's funny about "let this one go" requests is that they usually cause the story to last longer than if we just trusted the collective intellect of the posters at mgoblog to decide.
When there is no more interest, the story will die. I am guessing, though, that the freep will keep it going until Dorsey graduates. And I am in the corner of those who would rather see posts supporting Dorsey.
We already know that Dorsey, his family, and his HS coach read most of what is written about him. I would prefer to see them have some support to read if they google his name. Shows of support help balance out the negativity and help counter the freep's malicious intent.
Ok, so here are the few issues that I have with this most recent poorly researched and poorly thought out piece on Demar Dorsey.
I cannot recall a high-profile prep athlete in this state who had so many known run-ins with the law.
I think that it goes without saying, but this blog and many others have documented a number of individuals with troubled pasts who have signed and experienced long careers at UM. To me, this remark is nothing more than sensationalist.
Dorsey chose to be in that PT Cruiser at 3:16 a.m. with his friends, two pellet guns and pepper spray.
Ya, that's right, he chose to get a ride home when one person jumped out of the car and mugged someone. Clearly the streets weren't that safe. You wanted him to walk home? Not the best people to be hanging out with, Dorsey will admit that himself. But how can you condemn the kid for this? How is this different than the MSU players that were just "watching" the brawl?
If they broke into your home and stole your TV would you call it a youthful indiscretion?
Perhaps no, but they did interview one of the individuals in whose house they did break into, and he had no problem labeling it as such.
Unlike so many kids I have covered, Dorsey is fortunate enough to have a mother and a father at home. His repeated actions show a complete lack of respect for the most important authority figures in his life.
This is going to far. This is speaking on a situation that McCabe knows nothing about. Dorsey and his parents are very upset with the media coverage of his criminal past. No kidding? Learn about the kid before you jump to judgment.
But before Dorsey sets foot in Ann Arbor he should spend two years at Grand Rapids Community College.
I'm glad you are rational... Come on! I think McCabe is proving his own insanity here.
So what if dozens of big-time schools, at least, also were prepared to sign Dorsey. Since when did U-M settle to be like everyone else?
Enough with the elitist bullshit. Do you want to rip Rodriguez because he can't win enough games? Or do you want to criticize him by playing by the same rules everyone else does? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Michigan isn't settling. They are competing. Just like you and I and everyone else want them to.
U-M has given us wonderful young men I have covered in high school: Tyrone Wheatley, LaMarr Woodley, Rick Hewlett, Ron Simpkins, John Wangler, Stan Edwards, Mike Jolly, Brandon Graham and countless others.
So get to know Dorsey before you say he can't fit in this group.
This is the most recent piece of trash to come out of the Free Press. It's pathetic that they are trying to run our football program from their cubicles, but its when they launch these personal attacks that they really cross the line. As a society, we simply cannot stand for this.
My favorite part was when he said Dorsey should go to GRCC. (!?) Umm... what? All he would learn there is, well, nothing unless he wants to become a dental hygienist. I'd like for this guy to explain to me how he learns respect, self control, etc. etc. (making the bold assumption he hasn't already after the last couple years with no incidents) at GRCC easier than at Michigan where he'd be in a rigorous training program, with his cousin, and with a large group of coaches breathing down his neck at all times to keep him in line.
It's frustrating to read stuff like this, because beyond not reading the paper or the website there's really not much we can do. There will still be thousands of hits on their articles every day, and until the whole thing goes under, the Freep will keep spewing sewage all over our program.
Sorry, I am not as good at html as I remembered haha. It was supposed to be a freep logo... oh well...
You know who has two thumbs and no regrets about boycotting freep.com? *This Guy*
Here it is again.
but i wouldn't put those products on par with each other. i would much rather read a cottonelle package than the freep.
we could take the Freep down without breaking any laws? What about throwing bologna on all the cars in their parking lot once a week? The acid in the meat eats through the paint and leaves the car polka dotted... Many of the things that come to mind would be going overboard, but I want to get rid of this paper sooooo bad.
What about hacking into the website and deleting articles, only to replace them with positive Michigan ones? Does anybody know where Sharp and Rosenpuke live? Strike that, that's a bad question. How about contacting their ISP and bribing them (raise an mgofund) to shut the site down?
All of the things you just suggested are, in fact, illegal. They're using their free speech, and are allowed to do so, unless someone wants to try to sue them for slander or libel.
The best way is to boycott the companies that advertise with the freep and to let those companies know that you're unhappy with their choice to advertise in the freep. Newspapers respond to their advertisers. Period. If enough people do this, there will be a change. That's the best way to take them down.
Just stop reading the paper. Stop visiting its website. Stop discussing its "articles." Let the rag die its own death from irrelevance that will have evolved from its disregard for even basic journalistic and moral standards.
i would probably piss myself because it would mean MSU managed to sign a great recruit from outside the midwest
Go to hell, Freep.
It really chafes my balls to see all this shit about Dorsey. Don't those assholes realize that this dude is still an impressionable kid? I am sure that he has heard this shit ad nauseum. I hope he has thick skin and focuses only on positive feedback of him being here, instead of drivel like that. The Sun has more credibility than that rag does now.
If Dorsey had committed to MSU, we'd be reading about how they are maybe establishing a name for themselves at a national recruiting level and that getting one of ESPN's top prospects is a huge coup for Douchetonio and company.
Who the hell is that in your avatar? Wowza.
Lucy Pinder, or as she's also known, jrt336's girlfriend.
during the signing day live blog that brian said he would give you your points back??? either way i gave you a +1...
Don't click on it if you like, and I have no problem with anyone else boycotting and not clicking. But as for me, I read them and if someone wants to click, i provide the option because that is good etiquette.
This Blog is far and away the leading charge in continuing the "Dorsey Story". The kid has a checkered pass and is going to be scrutinized, so get over it. Don't give the Freep opinion more weight than it deserves, they are entitled to their opinions.
Michigan has earned plenty of criticism lately, the attention comes with being one of the most storied college football programs in all the land. Columnist and editorialists are not required by law to support M football.
From afar I have questions about Dorsey's character but willingly give him the benefit of the doubt. This story IMHO is more concerning the undercurrent of fedupness with RR. RR has managed in 2 seasons, rightly or wrongly, to use up his goodwill on a large segment of M fans, let alone the public at large.
Oh yeah Mick McCabe is a good dude
You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. Nor is the Free Press.
Why, do you suppose, that Mick McCabe would step out of his role as Preps Reporter, into a role as opnion columnist? Perhaps the same reason that Mike Rosenberg stepped out of his role as opinion columnist into the role of "investigative reporter." Which earned Rosenberg and the Free Press the charge of "journalistic malpractice" from New Republic editor Jonathon Chait.
This story was trotted out today not because it is news, but because Friday is a home delivery day for the Free Press, and it would be a shame to waste such a day without some more Freep hate-speech directed at Rich Rodriguez.
You say the story is about "fedupness." I say you are full of the same infectious b.s. that all Free Press true believers are; that a dozen completely baseless stories about Rich Rodriguez somehow equals one real, true, disturbing story about him.
My challenge to people like Mick McCabe, is that if they still have a newspaper job in four years, to come back to this story and, if (as I suspect) Demar Dorsey is an All-Big Ten defensive back with a clean record of good behavior, that Mick McCabe will fall down on his knees in the Diag and beg forgiveness for this trash bit of yellow journalism.
I am not going to forget this fucking mess in four years. And I am not going to let the Free Press writers or anyone else forget it either. And I am NOT going to take any crap from people like Sharp or McCabe, that they didn't necessarily predict failure for Dorsey, they were merely expressing "concern." Bullshit. Bullfuckingshit. The simple question is whether Demar Dorsey's arrest record ought to have disqualified him from recruiting. Otherwise, there is no story. If you write the story at all, you have to be making that judgment. Or you don't write it. McCabe has made his judgment. Me might be right. If he is wrong -- and I am betting that time will prove him wrong -- I want to be there to harass and harangue Mick McCabe. I want him to eat this story, and do it publicly. I want to embarass him.
You go boy. You exhibit more vitriol than the freep and if you don't think a faction of M fans are fed up with RR, oh well.
a virus that has invaded the Freep sports department and all of their writers and columnists have caught it. Apparently there is no cure.
Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Believe it or not, I think Adam Rittenberg had the best response to this issue in a recent mailblog:
"My general point was Michigan, like any school, took on a risk by signing Dorsey, and must live with that risk if he slips up. But Michigan and Rich Rodriguez shouldn't be criticized for giving players second chances because it's part of the game. I think this so-called higher standard people think Michigan must abide by is arrogant and misinformed. Michigan is a place where players can turn themselves around and succeed both on and off the field. You might want to give my post a second read."
For the whole post, go to:
PS: The arrogant and misinformed part is my favorite.
PPS: I went to Michigan, so that previous statement isn't just Wolverine cock envy.
McCabe is a small, petty man. He has never had any "respect" from me. That is all.
Should run a story on the front page on how to beat a dead horse.
Since when did our fan base have such thin skins?
Mick McCabe is one of the best sports writers in the Detroit market. Period. If we're going to sit here and throw every writer under the bus who writes something about Michigan that we don't like, who's going to be left?
By what measure is he one of the best sports writers in the Detroit Market? I could say with as little evidence that I think he's been a joke covering the high school scene and any reasonable follower of high school athletics has long ago turned to Markowski at the Detroit News, long before anyone wrote anything about Michigan.
And his articles isn't good work, it's factually inaccurate and two faced (See below). And people who produce work like that, we can lose all of them, frankly.
I like your normal willingness to take a contrary position, but it feels like now you're just being different just to stir the pot.
The Free Press is hurting Rich Rodriguez and this program. The Free Press is conducting an undisguised campaign against Michigan's football program. To the extent that the Free Press is hurting our school, I think it is silly to worry for one instant that we are delivering some blow-back to the Free Press.
And one more thing; it is not as though this site does not appreciate honest analysis and criticism of the team, and coaches, and players. The Free Press writers like to pooh-pooh the blogs as being "fan sites." Screw the Free Press writers. MGoBlog is runnnig circles around their sorry asses. MGoBlog is reporting virtually everything about Michigan football faster, better, more completely, and in greater detail than is the Free Press. The Free Press sucks. Not just becuase Drew Sharp is a blowhard. Not just becuase Michael Rosenberg is consumed with his personal vendetta against Rich Rodriguez. Not just because Mick McCabe has blown his cover as a KoolAid-slurping Freep loyalist.
No, the Free Press sucks becuase it is slow, and dumb, and loaded with half-assed opinion without much fact.
MGoBlog isn't thin-skinned. There is better and more thoughtful criticism of Michigan sports here, than at the Free Press.
Sorry, but I think Mick McCabe was last readable sometime in the twentieth century.
lots of room under our bus.
I mean, they've become so transparent about their agenda. Bad enough they've been skewing ranking out of High School for their purposes, but this article doesn't even attempt to be honest. It's a full on assault. And I no longer feel ok brushing it off and letting it go. OR being nice. So, MY letter to Mr. McCabe.
"Dear Mr. McCabe,
You claim to have never seen someone with so much legal trouble get a scholarship or a University to take a chance on them like the University of Michigan has with Dorsey. And then have the gall to compare it with how people would react if it happened at MSU. Well it did - Roderick Jenrette. Did the exact same things, in the same area, even did it RIGHT before coming to campus, yet there was not multiple columns and investigative reports by your paper when he was recruited. And not only did he get the chance, he showed he wasn't deserving of it.
And you also say that one should not discount finding someone stealing a tv in your house. But you also say (again) that you've never seen such criminal records get a second chance. Didn't you cover Eric Knott and Damon Dowdell? They were in-state players, who both got scholarships and second chances. Where was the outrage then? Because I'm sure if you would not discount the fear of someone breaking into your house, you couldn't possibly justify the sexual assault of a young girl, could you? I think I'd rather have someone take my tv than sexually abuse my daughter, but maybe you differ.
So, where were the multi-day investigative reports and commentary then? There wasn't, because the paper wasn't driven by an agenda back then. One that has seeped into even high school football coverage now. And it's helping take away what little credibility you have left.
Calling out hypocrisy from U-M fans? That's funny coming from your dishonest, two-faced column today. I hope you are fast approaching retirement, for your sake, because when your paper invariably folds, articles like this which are only quickening the timeline, I don't think the SI.com's of the world are going to have much use for spinning high school sports reporters who have lost all objectivity."
More Freep threads...
I really wish I could read MGoBlog without having to wade through 5-paragraph essays in almost every thread about why the Freep isn't writing what people want to hear.
At some point, as a fanbase, we have to get over it.
Oh, wait, NO I don't!
As we see, the News, which is a valuable check on much of the Free Press' political agenda, is not much value in checking the Free Press' sports coverage. Sportstalk radio has no value; indeed, it is a kind of megaphone for what gets into the Free Press.
I find it frightening, frankly, that so many people get their news from the Free Press, and that there are so few places in which the Free Press gets questioned and challenged.
Thank God for the internet and MGoBlog. Would Rich Rodriguez be gone now, but for the blogs? I don't know. Perhaps not. Probably not, I suppose. But there's no doubt about the Freep's general campaign of antipathy toward the Rodriguez staff, and where else can that antipathy be challenged?
Blah blah blah blah....... Old news, time to move on and not even let this negative smear campaign piss us off.