New OL come this Saturday?
September 30th, 2013 at 4:02 PM ^
DJ Fluker started at right tackle as a freshman for Bama in 2010.
That season they only went 10-3, which is pretty shitty for Alabama.
/Saban'd
September 30th, 2013 at 5:27 PM ^
DJ Fluker redshirted in 2009.
September 30th, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^
DJ Fluker also was a #11 pick in the making.
September 30th, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^
Truth and attention to detail.
What we're talking about here is the fact that ONE program in the country can play (a) (rs) freshman on the line and it's all Brian's fault Michgan isn't doing this.
September 30th, 2013 at 9:14 PM ^
October 1st, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
Bryant will be the new one in with Glasgow sliding over to Center
September 30th, 2013 at 5:28 PM ^
Given the staff's refusal to play true frosh on the O-Line, Id say the chances of us seeing him getting game snaps are very slim. Kalis could have played last season, but the coaches wouldn't play him. Hard to see Bosch being further along than Kalis was last year
September 30th, 2013 at 5:59 PM ^
they did seriously consider playing Kalis last year. If Hoke mentioned him by name, I wouldn't completely write off the possibility of Bosch getting a chance to start this year. I think we've only had two true freshmen OL play in the last 20 years, so it's always a long shot regardless of the staff.
September 30th, 2013 at 6:24 PM ^
Bosch was early entry, and the coaches have made it clear that they don't consider EE freshmen as freshmen.
I would bet 100 fake internet dollars that Bosch is better than Miller right now.
October 1st, 2013 at 1:13 AM ^
One would think Kalis would look closer to being a dominating player right now if he was actually ready last year.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^
will Glasgow be wearing that sexy sweater?
September 30th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^
Not advocating any true freshman on the OL, but I take it Kugler is still injured? I couldn't tell based off of a Google search.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 3:20 PM ^
Had shoulder surgery after his HS season/ all-star games. I don't think he was ever mentioned as limited in practice though. Of course you don't hear much about true frosh OL very often.
September 30th, 2013 at 5:44 PM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 3:22 PM ^
I believe he had a torn labrum, and was also wondering if anyone heard about Chris Fox and he injured knee. Tough to get info from the fort.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:32 PM ^
I'm pretty sure Chris Fox is redshirting. I'm not sure if he is on the travel roster.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:06 PM ^
I'm not entirely sure a new OL is necessarily a good thing, would we be interrupting any important "gelling" that could be happening?
I have no idea when you soldier on and when you make a change.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:55 PM ^
In most cases, yes. But in this case, there doesn't seem to be much gel to interrupt.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^
I go back and forth on this, but the more I watch Miller get owned in 1 on 1 match-ups, the more I think this isn't a problem that more time fixes. The targeting/assignment issues are one thing (and will likely take a step back with a reshuffle), but at some point your center needs to have the physical ability to block someone. Akron and UConn are at the bottom end of the talent we'll face at NT and it's pretty plan for DC to see that lining up a guy heads up on Miller will blow up plays with regularity. Yes, we managed to win against Notre Dame, but that was really in spite of OL play; you can't expect Devin to play lights out like that to compensate every game.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^
The quote at the end of Angelique Chengelis' piece intrigued me the most. In response to a question about the chemistry of the offensive line and how important that is:
"So is production (important), and that might be more critical than chemistry," Hoke said. "We've got to put the guys in there who give us the best opportunity to be successful."
There are no actual changes on the published depth chart, which as we know is not the depth chart per se. If they are trying out numerous iterations of the line in practice, then I think this might open the door for some potential changes, if you will, but of course, we may never know until closer to the game. Hoke did say that they have some time yet to decide, which is true, but I wager this will be the focus of a fair amount of speculation this week.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:23 PM ^
This situation reminds me of (CSB, time) rowing in high school. We had two varsity eights, 1 and 2 boats. Both boats were getting the crap kicked out of them in the early races, and so finally, the coach took the top four port and top four starboard ergometer times and put them on first boat. The stroke was new, and five out of the eight guys had not been in the seats they occupied (or even rowed together). Boom - first boat killed everyone the rest of the season, and second boat did better as well.
Sometimes you just have to grind it out and let the details work themselves out.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:06 PM ^
http://www.slideshare.net/apanitsch/the-management-rowing-race
This went around the office years ago...still funny.
October 1st, 2013 at 2:29 AM ^
I can't decide if I find this funny or sad since I unfortunately work for the red team.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:22 PM ^
Whatever happened to Ben Braden and Joey Burzynski? We're potentially reaching for a true freshman?
September 30th, 2013 at 3:28 PM ^
Braden is a tackle; that's all he's going to be. Burzynski - well, not all walk-ons are ready to start in the Big 10.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^
Wasn't Braden practicing a lot at guard and presumed to be the starter there until right before the season started?
September 30th, 2013 at 4:49 PM ^
but the presuming was being done by people who didn't really know. He stopped getting reps at guard for a reason and it wasn't that they were completely satisfied with the alternatives. I think we can now presume the coaches no longer see Braden as a plausible alternative at OG.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
and Hoke never suggested any position changes on the offensive line. ? In fact, he said he was going to wait until after Tuesday practice before making any decisions regarding changes. I think folks are jumping to a lot of conclusions here.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:07 PM ^
an approved Jump to Conclusions mat
September 30th, 2013 at 3:39 PM ^
I just hope we fire harbaugh soon. And Les Miles. And the OL.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 3:59 PM ^
PeterKlima = a liar and a communist
September 30th, 2013 at 4:35 PM ^
I don't know how you've managed to avoid getting banned.
September 30th, 2013 at 11:15 PM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 3:49 PM ^
I want to add Bryant becuase I want to see a large pulling gaurd kill someone.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:12 PM ^
Bryant has transfered to Arizona!
September 30th, 2013 at 3:49 PM ^
Without any citations to the presser and no other reports Hoke said anything like this....it seems like a weak trolling attempt.
Everyone knows they are evaulating people there, but the names and positions are just conjecture on the OP's part.
September 30th, 2013 at 3:53 PM ^
So Hoke never mentioned Glasgow and Bryant by name?
September 30th, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^
Not true. Here is a summary of what was said (from Rivals):
"One more day won't hurt to look on OL. And Darrell rotates them. We need better play at center, whether it's Graham with Joe Burzynski or Chris Bryant at the guard. "
September 30th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^
"We're at the point where we want to make sure, so one more day isn't going to hurt us. Darrell [Funk] rotates those guys through pretty good during practice. You see a lot of the same groupings.
"We need a little better play from the center, whether it's Jack or Graham, then Chris Bryant or Joe Burzynski as the guard."
...so. Delete your comment?
September 30th, 2013 at 4:01 PM ^
The OP said that Bryant would be moving to guard, but the quote mentions Joey. Hmmm. And, it states that Miller and Glasgow have both been working at center, which we know they have been doing all year.
If you are jumping to conclusions, fine, but don't make it sound like Hoke tipped his hat one way or another about a possible mix-up. He didn't. We knew everything he said already.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^
I am struggling to find what I misrepresented in my original post, based on the quotes provided and the summary I listed from Rivals.
Also, there is a "?" at the end of the subject line and this is a pretty 'hot' topic amongst Michigan fans these days.
Quit grasping for straws, asshole.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
Please use threads to bring insight or add information that others may not know.
Imagine someone starting a thread that said "Jake Ryan to return?" and then the thread just re-hashes that he will return at some point.
Plus, you made it sound informative by saying Bryant is the candidate to move to guard, but Hoke's quote does not say that.
Of course ther is a possible shift in the OL this week. it has been discussed on the front page numerous times. If you want to start a thread to share ideas about it, fine, then premise it as such....just don't make it seem like Hoke indicatedsomething specfici in his presser (like a line of Lewan, Bryant, Glasgow, Kalis, Schofield). He didn't.
September 30th, 2013 at 4:34 PM ^
I'm not sure why you are so worked up about this. Not everyone has the time to read 100% of the front-page articles, especially now, during football season, when they come and go quickly. I think it's a noteworthy topic.
October 1st, 2013 at 12:57 AM ^
September 30th, 2013 at 4:51 PM ^
Hoke is usually very coy. I found the fact that he was willing to specifically address the situation and drop a name or two or three to be interesting indeed. I appreciate Rager bringing it to my attention, as it gives me some insight I didn't have a few minutes ago.
September 30th, 2013 at 5:13 PM ^
Hoke, for the first time I can remember this year, explicitly mentioned the need to improve a specific position, and talked about a potential shift in the lineup. And named names.
Slap bet commissioner rules: thread is valid.