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January 30th, 2011 at 3:27 AM | OP is referring to (Score:1)
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Edit: Tried to paste twitter feed and failed.  Peace!

 

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:27 AM | Same, nothing you mentioned (Score:1)
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Same, nothing you mentioned was said in the link. But if it is true I'm truly disgusted. All thats being said is that greg is going to chicago to train and the nfl has not contacted him. 

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:27 AM | I (Score:1)
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do not think Coach Hoke would do such a thing would he?Because he says he is a players coach right?I think you are tripping.GO BLUE!!!

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:28 AM | This will end well. (Score:1)
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This will end well.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:31 AM | I don't give a shit what ends (Score:1)
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I don't give a shit what ends well and what doesn't. Send me to Bolivia if need be, but never is it acceptable to bail on a senior. And according to Greg Banks that is exactly what Wellman is doing. 

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:37 AM | Why don't you just go ahead (Score:1)
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Why don't you just go ahead and revisit this one when it's not 2AM and you're not trashed?

One kid mouths off on twitter, all of the sudden we have an international incident?

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:41 AM | I will try, but drunk or not. (Score:1)
mrider
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I will try, but drunk or not. "New coach won't help me train" means the same things sober or not, Like I said disgusting.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:02 AM | Wow! (Score:1)
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You're kind of hostile M-Easy-Rider.  It's gonna be alright mate.  Maybe you could use a little hoke and toke.  Scuse me!  Hug and Hoke! Oh, you know what I mean.  After all, you don't want to wind up like this little fella. 

(source: Hostile Child Magazine - Redrum Special Issue #4)

"Don't stop your feet on contact!"

-Brady Hoke

Newsflash, if we don't win Rose Bowl '13 we will have little choice but to lay the blame on Kate Upton.  That is all!

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:01 AM | Damn, reply down farther that I wanted (Score:1)
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EEB c/o 2014

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:04 AM | Negs are still off-line.  We (Score:1)
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Negs are still off-line.  We are defenseless against trolls save the Flame of Righteous Sarcasm.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:08 AM | It's a bitch, a'int it? (Score:1)
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It's a bitch, a'int it?

Go Blue!

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:10 AM | Sure is.  Especially when I (Score:1)
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Sure is.  Especially when I started that posbang thread after the arrows appeared and Brian popped by to let us all know we were just dry-humping each other.  Talk about emasculating.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:14 AM | Tell me about it. Plus I (Score:1)
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Tell me about it.

Plus I was that one asshole who negged you for that. Apparently expensive phone =/= smart phone. Good thing I found out it was no big deal.

But hey, you got Brian to respond on that thread, no small accomplishment. 

Go Blue!

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January 30th, 2011 at 12:40 PM | Dry-hump. (Score:1)
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Dry-hump.

"I don't see how having someone piss on my face is going to help me sell Lou Ferrigno's house."

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January 30th, 2011 at 10:42 AM | Your turn to be the S&C coach (Score:1)
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mrider; you have just been hired to be the S&C coach. You have been here for 2 weeks and your are still living in a hotel. As a leader and manager you understand that you cannot have 20 different priorities - that would be a to-do list - not a priority. So mrider; what are your top priorities for the UM S&C program?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgr6pmh9Ds0

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January 30th, 2011 at 1:30 PM | and you're basing this on one (Score:1)
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and you're basing this on one tweet? Have you even considered talking to anyone else to get the other side of the story? oh wait...you're wasted. right. two drinks ago you would've thought better of blowing up about the staff and remembered how long he has been there and what he has been busy trying to do since he arrived. chill.

Forget about the curveball Ricky. Give him the heater...

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:29 AM | Banks (Score:1)
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I noticed this on GB's twitter earlier too. Definitely a head scratcher. I feel like this won't be the last we hear about this. Maybe after signing day passes and things wind down on that front, Hoke will place some more focus on these things.

"We need to realize what we need to do every time we come out to play," It can't just be some half-assed work ethic. It needs to be fuckin' full out every play, every down, every game." -Dave Molk

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:31 AM | Perhaps more hilarious is (Score:1)
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Perhaps more hilarious is Brandon Graham making a tat-gate Pryor joke to Kurt Coleman. I'll admit, I laughed.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:36 AM | Priceless (Score:1)
Cam57
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Absolutely Priceless! haha BG lettin' 'em know!

"We need to realize what we need to do every time we come out to play," It can't just be some half-assed work ethic. It needs to be fuckin' full out every play, every down, every game." -Dave Molk

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:20 AM | This is unacceptable, I'm (Score:1)
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This is unacceptable, I'm with the OP. WTF Hoke, Michigan Men don't bail on other Michigan Men! 

 

Edit: So far this has not been proven, so I will give Hoke the benefit of the doubt. 

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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January 30th, 2011 at 1:37 PM | so you were willing to bad (Score:1)
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so you were willing to bad mouth the staff before you even knew what is going on? Hoke is busy recruiting his ASS off right now. Banks has not been abandoned. He knows what to do in the weight room. The new staff is...wait for it...NEW!!!!! They have SO much work to do right now. They probably haven't even talked yet about their plan for outgoing Seniors. We have a landed verbals from 10 kids since 1/19 (3 recommits and 7 new verbals). Can we seriously give the staff a break?! I mean come on. All this is the kind of crap that people started throwing at RR when he got here. This is a non issue right now. If this staff had been here for a year already and this is what was going on then that's a different story but that isn't the case is it?

Forget about the curveball Ricky. Give him the heater...

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January 30th, 2011 at 1:41 PM | Hoke and Wellman are (Score:1)
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Hoke and Wellman are different people. I forgot Wellman was out landing all those commits. If a Michigan football player is still at school the S&C better damn well help him.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:09 PM | I know who Hoke and Wellman (Score:1)
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I know who Hoke and Wellman are. the problem is you are trashing the coaching staff that has had 2 WEEKS to implement their rules and regulations about how to do things. A staff that isn't even complete yet. A staff that has had to salvage a recruiting class and the current players on the roster. A staff that still has to work out where they are going to live and when and how their families will be moving. What help do you think Wellman is really going to be able to give Banks that is going make him a better player than he has been for the last 4 years? I'm not saying they shouldn't help him because he isn't a star but fact is fact. If you know what will make him a better player  then I suggest you get off your computer at 3 in the morning while drunk and go fill out an application for a position on the S & C staff since you know so much. 

The point is you are not a Michigan player. You do know what state the S & C program is in. You have NOT talked to Wellman yourself or Banks for that matter. you do not have evidence of Banks being wronged in any way and you are running your mouth about how badly the staff is treating him. 

I think this staff certainly deserves the chance to show their worth and you sir seem dead set on otherwise.

Grow up.

Forget about the curveball Ricky. Give him the heater...

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:41 AM | maybe (Score:1)
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Hoke is out recruiting, trying to put a class together? Did rr staff help henne or long? I'm not trying to be a dick, we don't know the whole story. Wildly speculating about a vague tweet, drunk, at 2am is not helping anyone.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:45 AM | As soon as it's back, please (Score:1)
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As soon as it's back, please remind me to find you and +1 whatever comment you're making. No matter what it is.

Go Blue!

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:48 AM | Chad andJake (Score:1)
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I get your point, but when Chad, and especially Jake came out for the draft, they were in much better situations than the ones our seniors find themselves in. Henne and Long weren't searching for places to work out pre-draft/combine, they were offered and most likely fronted by their agents. Guys like Banks, without a senior bowl invite and much attention have to kind of get their shit together on their own. But, as far as Hoke being pre-occupied with finishing this class off, I agree 100% with you.

"We need to realize what we need to do every time we come out to play," It can't just be some half-assed work ethic. It needs to be fuckin' full out every play, every down, every game." -Dave Molk

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:42 AM | forgot about agents paying (Score:1)
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For there workouts, good point. Banks has 3 months to workout. Would this guy rather have Hoke working out banks or locking down Cooper? It is insulting to Hoke and his staff to suggest they would do that to a player. I guess I have more respect for Hoke to do the right thing. Also people wonder where other teams fans get ammunition to spread rumors about our team. Trolls get on here and spread this crap to everyone else.

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January 30th, 2011 at 11:46 AM | It doesn't matter if they (Score:1)
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It doesn't matter if they were in better situations than Banks. All the athletes should be treated the same.  This argument makes no sense.  Banks should understand what is going on for the next few days and I'm sure after this week he will get all sorts of attention that he deserves.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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January 30th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | Unfortunately (Score:1)
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In the real world, #1 overall picks, and undrafted free agent signings do get treated different. But, in theory, you would hope they are treated the same.

"We need to realize what we need to do every time we come out to play," It can't just be some half-assed work ethic. It needs to be fuckin' full out every play, every down, every game." -Dave Molk

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:45 AM | Counterpoint:     gmat (Score:1)
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Counterpoint:

 

 

gmatflaboy greg mathews 
 by CarlosBrown_
 
Just finished workin out wit @CarlosBrown_ gotta chance 2 meet coach hoke & tha new s&c staff #goblue
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January 30th, 2011 at 3:48 AM | I don't doubt that Einstein (Score:1)
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I don't doubt that Einstein came up with the theory of relativity at 2:19am on a Sunday morning.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:50 AM | More discussion. Looks like MRider is overreacting. (Score:1)
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Some other dude asked him about it:

Ty McGuire @ @gsmooth92 hopefully its just b/c they are concentrating on implementing the team right away and once all is settled they'll hook ya'll up 1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Greg Banks @tymacg yea that's tru because their style of training is obviously different from the last and it takes time for players to get acclimated

 

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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January 30th, 2011 at 10:33 AM | Thanks OMG.  I think the OP (Score:1)
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Thanks OMG.  I think the OP is overreacting a bit, because I don't know that he knows the overall sitch,  I am sure with recruiting is over for this year, we will find out more and get this straightened out.  My only issue is when the OP went off on his twitter, Banks never shot him down on anything.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:51 AM | Wellman said he hadn't even (Score:1)
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Wellman said he hadn't even gotten a chance to meet the whole team yet. No where does it say that they've been told "no, we won't help you." And I'm sure Hoke and co. are really used to dealing with a ton of possible NFL players from their days at Ball State and SDSU.

Let the situation play out for at least a few days before ranting like a child.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:55 AM | Thank you for the (Score:1)
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Thank you for the rationality.

Can't wait until negbanging is back to take care of the dumbass posts, and I can posbang the deserving ones.

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January 30th, 2011 at 11:39 AM | I agree (Score:1)
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Can't wait until negbanging is back to take care of the dumbass posts

Half of your posts in this thread would qualify

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:53 AM | Seriously dude? You've lost it. (Score:1)
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MaRide1 Matt Rider @desmond_howard Hey Desmond, our new coaching staff isn't helping seniors prepare for draft! Greg Banks is left out by wellman! do something

http://twitter.com/#!/MaRide1/status/31608543450759168

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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January 30th, 2011 at 3:59 AM | ... (Score:1)
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The creations of twitter and alcohol are solely responsible for Matt Rider ever having the opportunity to communicate with Desmond Howard. What a world we live in.

"We need to realize what we need to do every time we come out to play," It can't just be some half-assed work ethic. It needs to be fuckin' full out every play, every down, every game." -Dave Molk

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:00 AM | He's probably too busy to (Score:1)
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He's probably too busy to bother, but I would love to see this guy put in his place by Desmond.

Would a Heisman winning first round pick sticking up for the staff do it?

Wait...probably not.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:09 AM | People shouldn't get drunk (Score:1)
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People shouldn't get drunk unless they have something to do.

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January 30th, 2011 at 10:33 PM | he deleted that one (Score:1)
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but left this one up

Wasted for my grandmas birthday heading out afterabout 23 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

classy classy classy!

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:03 AM | This post is ridiculous (Score:1)
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This post is ridiculous. Hoke got the job 2 weeks ago and National Signing Day is Wednesday.  A few weeks ago, we were all making lists of Hoke's top priorities for his first several weeks on the job.  Most lists went something like this:

1. Lock up Denard

2. Lock up the rest of the squad

3. Recruit like mad

3. Hire a DC

4. Hire an OC

5. Recruit like mad

6. Get the team going on winter workouts

7. Start working on a way to effectively utilize Denard

8. Recruit like mad

Then add to the list all the things that apply to Hoke's personal life... like, yanno, moving your family across the country and changing jobs. Did anyone list "get outgoing Seniors ready for the draft?" No. Is it important? Yes. But National Signing day is Wednesday, and we just finished hiring position coaches. I would venture to guess that Hoke hasn't had more than 4 hours of sleep since accepting the job. Go to sleep.

maize & blue, right down to my shoes.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:06 AM | Agreed, except maybe on the (Score:1)
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Agreed, except maybe on the order of thing. 

I'd have "Locking up Denard" as 1-2-3. Quickly followed by "Bring in a DC".

Just personal preference though, your point stands (and stands correct).

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January 30th, 2011 at 7:25 AM | I dont' know man, Denard is (Score:1)
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I dont' know man, Denard is too fast to be anything but just 1st

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:06 AM | ^^^^^^This. (Score:1)
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Logic and Ockham's Razor FTW.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:10 AM | "Occom's". Don't sweat it (Score:1)
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"Occom's". Don't sweat it though, you're a badass poster.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:19 AM | :facepalm I hope you're (Score:1)
2plankr
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:facepalm

I hope you're joking

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:21 AM | Ha (Score:1)
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Good catch. At some point the booze was bound to get to me. An imaginary +1 to you sir.

Occam's Razor.

Again, my bad.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:29 AM | Or Ockham. As in William of (Score:1)
2plankr
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Or Ockham. As in William of Ockham.

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January 30th, 2011 at 4:32 AM | Wow. Now that I Google that I (Score:1)
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Wow. Now that I Google that I feel really dumb.

In my defense, I know that my first philosophy prof spelled it Occam, and I know that I've seen Occam before.

However, seeing the overwhelming evidence in your favor, I admit defeat. Good teaching moment I guess.

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