Edit: Tried to paste twitter feed and failed. Peace!
Edit: Tried to paste twitter feed and failed. Peace!
Same, nothing you mentioned was said in the link. But if it is true I'm truly disgusted. All thats being said is that greg is going to chicago to train and the nfl has not contacted him.
do not think Coach Hoke would do such a thing would he?Because he says he is a players coach right?I think you are tripping.GO BLUE!!!
This will end well.
I don't give a shit what ends well and what doesn't. Send me to Bolivia if need be, but never is it acceptable to bail on a senior. And according to Greg Banks that is exactly what Wellman is doing.
Why don't you just go ahead and revisit this one when it's not 2AM and you're not trashed?
One kid mouths off on twitter, all of the sudden we have an international incident?
I will try, but drunk or not. "New coach won't help me train" means the same things sober or not, Like I said disgusting.
You're kind of hostile M-Easy-Rider. It's gonna be alright mate. Maybe you could use a little hoke and toke. Scuse me! Hug and Hoke! Oh, you know what I mean. After all, you don't want to wind up like this little fella.
(source: Hostile Child Magazine - Redrum Special Issue #4)
Negs are still off-line. We are defenseless against trolls save the Flame of Righteous Sarcasm.
It's a bitch, a'int it?
Sure is. Especially when I started that posbang thread after the arrows appeared and Brian popped by to let us all know we were just dry-humping each other. Talk about emasculating.
Tell me about it.
Plus I was that one asshole who negged you for that. Apparently expensive phone =/= smart phone. Good thing I found out it was no big deal.
But hey, you got Brian to respond on that thread, no small accomplishment.
mrider; you have just been hired to be the S&C coach. You have been here for 2 weeks and your are still living in a hotel. As a leader and manager you understand that you cannot have 20 different priorities - that would be a to-do list - not a priority. So mrider; what are your top priorities for the UM S&C program?
and you're basing this on one tweet? Have you even considered talking to anyone else to get the other side of the story? oh wait...you're wasted. right. two drinks ago you would've thought better of blowing up about the staff and remembered how long he has been there and what he has been busy trying to do since he arrived. chill.
I noticed this on GB's twitter earlier too. Definitely a head scratcher. I feel like this won't be the last we hear about this. Maybe after signing day passes and things wind down on that front, Hoke will place some more focus on these things.
Perhaps more hilarious is Brandon Graham making a tat-gate Pryor joke to Kurt Coleman. I'll admit, I laughed.
Absolutely Priceless! haha BG lettin' 'em know!
This is unacceptable, I'm with the OP. WTF Hoke, Michigan Men don't bail on other Michigan Men!
Edit: So far this has not been proven, so I will give Hoke the benefit of the doubt.
so you were willing to bad mouth the staff before you even knew what is going on? Hoke is busy recruiting his ASS off right now. Banks has not been abandoned. He knows what to do in the weight room. The new staff is...wait for it...NEW!!!!! They have SO much work to do right now. They probably haven't even talked yet about their plan for outgoing Seniors. We have a landed verbals from 10 kids since 1/19 (3 recommits and 7 new verbals). Can we seriously give the staff a break?! I mean come on. All this is the kind of crap that people started throwing at RR when he got here. This is a non issue right now. If this staff had been here for a year already and this is what was going on then that's a different story but that isn't the case is it?
Hoke and Wellman are different people. I forgot Wellman was out landing all those commits. If a Michigan football player is still at school the S&C better damn well help him.
I know who Hoke and Wellman are. the problem is you are trashing the coaching staff that has had 2 WEEKS to implement their rules and regulations about how to do things. A staff that isn't even complete yet. A staff that has had to salvage a recruiting class and the current players on the roster. A staff that still has to work out where they are going to live and when and how their families will be moving. What help do you think Wellman is really going to be able to give Banks that is going make him a better player than he has been for the last 4 years? I'm not saying they shouldn't help him because he isn't a star but fact is fact. If you know what will make him a better player then I suggest you get off your computer at 3 in the morning while drunk and go fill out an application for a position on the S & C staff since you know so much.
The point is you are not a Michigan player. You do know what state the S & C program is in. You have NOT talked to Wellman yourself or Banks for that matter. you do not have evidence of Banks being wronged in any way and you are running your mouth about how badly the staff is treating him.
I think this staff certainly deserves the chance to show their worth and you sir seem dead set on otherwise.
Hoke is out recruiting, trying to put a class together? Did rr staff help henne or long? I'm not trying to be a dick, we don't know the whole story. Wildly speculating about a vague tweet, drunk, at 2am is not helping anyone.
As soon as it's back, please remind me to find you and +1 whatever comment you're making. No matter what it is.
I get your point, but when Chad, and especially Jake came out for the draft, they were in much better situations than the ones our seniors find themselves in. Henne and Long weren't searching for places to work out pre-draft/combine, they were offered and most likely fronted by their agents. Guys like Banks, without a senior bowl invite and much attention have to kind of get their shit together on their own. But, as far as Hoke being pre-occupied with finishing this class off, I agree 100% with you.
For there workouts, good point. Banks has 3 months to workout. Would this guy rather have Hoke working out banks or locking down Cooper? It is insulting to Hoke and his staff to suggest they would do that to a player. I guess I have more respect for Hoke to do the right thing. Also people wonder where other teams fans get ammunition to spread rumors about our team. Trolls get on here and spread this crap to everyone else.
It doesn't matter if they were in better situations than Banks. All the athletes should be treated the same. This argument makes no sense. Banks should understand what is going on for the next few days and I'm sure after this week he will get all sorts of attention that he deserves.
In the real world, #1 overall picks, and undrafted free agent signings do get treated different. But, in theory, you would hope they are treated the same.
I don't doubt that Einstein came up with the theory of relativity at 2:19am on a Sunday morning.
Some other dude asked him about it:
Ty McGuire @ @gsmooth92 hopefully its just b/c they are concentrating on implementing the team right away and once all is settled they'll hook ya'll up 1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Greg Banks @tymacg yea that's tru because their style of training is obviously different from the last and it takes time for players to get acclimated
Thanks OMG. I think the OP is overreacting a bit, because I don't know that he knows the overall sitch, I am sure with recruiting is over for this year, we will find out more and get this straightened out. My only issue is when the OP went off on his twitter, Banks never shot him down on anything.
Wellman said he hadn't even gotten a chance to meet the whole team yet. No where does it say that they've been told "no, we won't help you." And I'm sure Hoke and co. are really used to dealing with a ton of possible NFL players from their days at Ball State and SDSU.
Let the situation play out for at least a few days before ranting like a child.
Thank you for the rationality.
Can't wait until negbanging is back to take care of the dumbass posts, and I can posbang the deserving ones.
Can't wait until negbanging is back to take care of the dumbass posts
Half of your posts in this thread would qualify
MaRide1 Matt Rider @desmond_howard Hey Desmond, our new coaching staff isn't helping seniors prepare for draft! Greg Banks is left out by wellman! do something
The creations of twitter and alcohol are solely responsible for Matt Rider ever having the opportunity to communicate with Desmond Howard. What a world we live in.
He's probably too busy to bother, but I would love to see this guy put in his place by Desmond.
Would a Heisman winning first round pick sticking up for the staff do it?
People shouldn't get drunk unless they have something to do.
but left this one up
classy classy classy!
This post is ridiculous. Hoke got the job 2 weeks ago and National Signing Day is Wednesday. A few weeks ago, we were all making lists of Hoke's top priorities for his first several weeks on the job. Most lists went something like this:
1. Lock up Denard
2. Lock up the rest of the squad
3. Recruit like mad
3. Hire a DC
4. Hire an OC
5. Recruit like mad
6. Get the team going on winter workouts
7. Start working on a way to effectively utilize Denard
8. Recruit like mad
Then add to the list all the things that apply to Hoke's personal life... like, yanno, moving your family across the country and changing jobs. Did anyone list "get outgoing Seniors ready for the draft?" No. Is it important? Yes. But National Signing day is Wednesday, and we just finished hiring position coaches. I would venture to guess that Hoke hasn't had more than 4 hours of sleep since accepting the job. Go to sleep.
Agreed, except maybe on the order of thing.
I'd have "Locking up Denard" as 1-2-3. Quickly followed by "Bring in a DC".
Just personal preference though, your point stands (and stands correct).
I dont' know man, Denard is too fast to be anything but just 1st
Logic and Ockham's Razor FTW.
"Occom's". Don't sweat it though, you're a badass poster.
I hope you're joking
Good catch. At some point the booze was bound to get to me. An imaginary +1 to you sir.
Again, my bad.
Or Ockham. As in William of Ockham.
Wow. Now that I Google that I feel really dumb.
In my defense, I know that my first philosophy prof spelled it Occam, and I know that I've seen Occam before.
However, seeing the overwhelming evidence in your favor, I admit defeat. Good teaching moment I guess.