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The never too early ESPN Bracketology

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Well it's Tuesday, so that means ESPN came out with a new bracketology.  

Duke, Kansas, Syracuse, and Michigan get the 1 seeds.  It has Michigan playing the winner of Norfolk State and Southern U and then playing the winner of Baylor/Pitt.

Louirville is the #2, Butler #3, and Creighton #4.  I'd love to have that 3 and 4 in my side of the bracket.  

Big Ten

Indiana, 2 seed

Minnesota, 3 seed

Ohio, 4 seed

Michigan St, 4 seed

Wisconsin, 7 seed

Illinois, 11 seed

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:43 PM | I've got Michigan winning it (Score:5 Normal)
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I've got Michigan winning it all.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:49 PM | I'm starting to actually (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm starting to actually believe it.  We haven't been a one seed since '93 I believe.  But, every night, it's looking better and better.

Those Who Stay Will Be CHAMPIONS

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:56 PM | Happy MgoBirthday! (Score:5 Normal)
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Happy MgoBirthday!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM | Haha...Thank you!  Been (Score:5 Normal)
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Haha...Thank you!  Been reading for a while--thought it was time to try to start getting involved.

Those Who Stay Will Be CHAMPIONS

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:24 PM | I have Michigan winning it all too.. (Score:3 Normal)
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regular season champions, B1G Tourney champs, #1 seed, National Title....and then everyone comes back next year and they do it again, all of it.

 
“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.”

 

 

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:18 PM | What about the NIT? (Score:0 Trolling)
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What about the NIT?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:39 PM | psh (Score:5 Normal)
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already won it earlier this year in NYC!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM | I would rather avoid Butler (Score:3 Normal)
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I would rather avoid Butler and Creighton completely until the Final Four.  Those two teams make U of Ohio look like Bradley (yes, I know we're much better than last year, but Creighton is legit and Butler is good too).

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:11 PM | Butler and Creighton are both (Score:1)
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Butler and Creighton are both very overrated, both teams would be .500 in the B1G. This would be a dream bracket and an automatic elite 8.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM | It doesnt matter if they (Score:1)
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It doesnt matter if they would be .500 in the B1G over the course of the season, in the tourny all you have to do is win your next game and recent history suggests that these mid majors can make serious noise in the post season. 

Blue is Faster

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:20 PM | Creighton yes (Score:1)
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But I'm not sure Butler would be. They have a heck if a team this year.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:59 PM | I don't want to have to go up (Score:2)
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I don't want to have to go up against any team coached by Brad Stevens. 

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:45 PM | Butler has beaten 3 teams who (Score:2)
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Butler has beaten 3 teams who were ranked in the top ten. Stevens may be the best coach in the country. I want to avoid them.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM | Disagree (Score:3 Normal)
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About Creighton. I live in Omaha and watch Creighton often. They've always had problems with long and athletic teams. Boise was too athletic for them earlier this year, and it's the same reason they have been on the losing end against Wichita St the last few years. Michigan would be far too athletic for them, and I'm confident we would beat them rather handily. McDermott is a good ball player, but he always struggles against athletic teams as well. He would be a first or second team player in the Big Ten, but it would be a shame if he wins NPOY because he's at Creighton.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:45 PM | I hope we avoid meeting anyone that (Score:1)
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we beat in the regular season (revenge/over-confidence factor) for as long as possible.

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM | Robby you must be swamped at (Score:4 Normal)
Allin4Blue
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Robby you must be swamped at work today!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM | Is it that obvious? The worst (Score:4 Normal)
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Is it that obvious?

The worst part is that I've already read all of the Michigan related articles on ESPN, thewolverine.com, and wolverinenation.  WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?!?!?

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM | You just described my day in (Score:1)
Allin4Blue
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You just described my day in it's entirety.  Need Moar Michigan Reads

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:05 PM | I used to read (Score:4 Normal)
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I used to read Michigantremendous, but that's no more :(

I suppose I could read touchthebanner, but I can't scroll down too far, because then you'll have girls in barely nothing.  For some reason, looking at pictures like that is frowned upon at my work.  Thanks Bin Laden!

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:06 PM | I've started reading this (Score:2)
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I've started reading this guys blog www.themblock.com.  Seems to have pretty good content.  Agree about Tremendous.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM | Well I'll have to check it (Score:2)
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Well I'll have to check it out.  Thanks!

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:53 PM | Butler (Score:4 Normal)
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They are the perfect 3 if Louisville is the 2, because even though they're terrifying, they might because of said terrifyingness knock off louisville, who is even more terrifying.  Terror.

Tremendous!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:43 PM | Equally important (Score:1)
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I was looking at that last night. I think it's equally important to not let down over the next 3 "should win" games. Then we could afford a 2-2 stretch

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:10 PM | FINAL FOUR (Score:1)
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Here we come!!!

As soon as i get 100 points I'm up voting and down voting ever comment on this site!!!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM | Butler (Score:2)
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I would never want to face Butler in the tournament.  I feel like the lower the seed they are, the more dangerous they are. 

Party...

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:16 PM | Michigan v. (Score:1)
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Lousville would be an epic regional final.  In the West, that would be a very fortunate draw for Staee.  I think Syracuse is overrated (really a one person show) and I think I actually might have Sparty coming out of that region believe it or not.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM | I don't believe it. Cuse (Score:1)
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I don't believe it. Cuse would have to much star power for sporty to handle.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:29 PM | How many more embarrassing (Score:2)
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How many more embarrassing losses until they drop Illinois?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:38 PM | They'll drop when we beat (Score:4 Normal)
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They'll drop when we beat them by 50 on Sunday.

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:38 PM | Kansas St knocking off Kansas (Score:5 Normal)
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Kansas St knocking off Kansas tonight will give us a little seed insurance.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:35 PM | Crazy (Score:2 Normal)
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How big of a k state fan I have become over the last two months. That relatively lopsided win keeps looking better

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM | Don't they try to avoid (Score:2)
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Don't they try to avoid potential rematches until the Sweet 16, meaning Pitt being on the line below Michigan is not feasible? Or is it just conference opponents where this applies?

Yes, I realize it's just a rough prognostication.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 7:09 PM | I believe (Score:1)
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that is only for conference foes and the elite eight is the soonest they can play.

BTW, I could easily see an all B1G Final Four of Mich, Ind, Minn, MSU, but in that bracket I will actually go with Mich, KU, Fla, MSU

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 PM | Really hard to take these (Score:2)
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Really hard to take these things serious, when they give MSU the Auto Bid for the Big Ten and have them at a 4 seed.  I know, I seen the part about current confrence leader and they are up a half game.  But, if your going to put out some way to early brackets at least make some way to early predictions.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:58 PM | And if he predicted Indiana (Score:0 Overrated)
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And if he predicted Indiana would win the Big Ten and had them a #1 over Michigan you'd complain about that too. Bracketology isn't about predictions.

@2GuysFromWI

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:12 PM | "I seen" (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Sorry to be the grammar police, but "I seen" is one of my pet peeves, along with putting an apostrophe in a plural word...before the "s."

As for the topic, the B1G teams seem fairly seeded, based on their current records/results.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:34 PM | Hopefully (Score:1)
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This plays out for a 1 seed. Doesn't mean much yet, but it's encouraging and fun to talk about. This team is good enough to make a long run, and obviously a 2 seed or better is likeu

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:44 PM | DP (Score:2)
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DP

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:44 PM | too early (Score:3 Normal)
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2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:44 PM | Check out the projected south region (Score:1)
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The top 4 seeds in the south is killer. Kansas, IU, NC state and Ohio. I dont want any part of that.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:28 PM | not to mention... (Score:1)
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North Carolina, VCU, Cincinnati, UCLA, and Georgetown all in that region as well.  BRUTAL!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:47 PM | I'll take it... (Score:1)
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Not sure you could ask for a better bracket. Maybe switch Louisville for Florida and it would be one of the "easier" roads. But once you get to the 1v2 matchup it's going to be tough no matter who you play.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:51 PM | When can I buy tickets (Score:2)
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When can I buy tickets for the regional final in Indy?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:00 PM | Baylor (Score:1)
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is a bit scary.  Maybe they'll play themselves up to a higher seed.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:01 PM | It would be huge to be in (Score:2)
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It would be huge to be in Auburn Hill/Indy -- perhaps even bigger than getting the 1.  There are also a lot of us alumni here in DC, so that could be a nice home-court if Indiana bumps us out of the Midwest 1 seed.  Also it's January, I can't believe I just engaged in speculating about our bracket.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:09 PM | If i'm reading that (Score:1)
mistersuits
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If i'm reading that correctly, he's predicting MSU to be the B1G autobid? I would not want to face Louisville or Butler before the Final Four.

You can pencil in Florida for a #1 seed too. There's not a team that's going to challenge them on their schedule the rest of the way. Florida will knock Duke or Michigan off the top line depending on who stumbles more in conference play. Unless Kansas loses at KState they also will likely not lose more than twice the rest of the way.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:43 PM | Florida (Score:2)
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The SEC is so down, though, Florida's resume's not going to look very good. Right now, they have 3 RPI top 50 wins, with one in the top 25. They'll likely pick up another when Wisconsin moves up from #51, but they only play two more top 50 teams, and those are middling (Mizzou @ 26 and Ole Miss @ 33). They also have 4 games against SEC teams that are 200+ in the RPI.

Compare to Michigan, which also has 3 top 50 wins, but two of those are top 15 (with one on the road). More importantly, they have 7 games left against the top 50 (plus Wisconsin) and no games against teams ranked lower than 188.

If Florida sweeps the league, they'll probably get a one, but anything else, and they're likely a 2 seed, even though they'd only have 3 losses. Just not enough good wins.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:47 PM | Kansas (Score:2)
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Kansas has a far better case if they win the Big 12. Already have 6 top 50 wins (including a win @ OSU), with 8 top 50 games left (only one of them top 25 but still a far stronger schedule than Florida).

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:21 PM | Michigan has a good shot (Score:1)
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I wasn't 100% sold on Michigan going into the season with the amount of freshman that were going to be getting key minutes, but the more I have seen of them this season, I have changed my mind.

The NCAA Tournament always comes down to matchups, but you have to like the fact that you have two guys (Burke and Hardaway) that can create their own offense at anytime in a game along with a having some knock down shooters.  I can't imagine anything less than an Elite 8 appearance for Michigan right now.

As for the Buckeyes, I wouldn't mind their seeding falling somewhere in the 3-5 range.  They just struggle way to much on the offensive end of the floor (except for Thomas) to make a real deep run this year, but again, you never know come tourney time.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:58 PM | Some Other Data... (Score:2)
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The algorithm at TeamRankings.com has the following teams as having a greater than 50% chance at being a Top 4 seed. I included their relative projected chances at a #1 seed as well, using the same model.

 


Team #1 Seed Top 4 Seed
Florida 64% 99%
Duke 56% 98%
Kansas 51% 97%
Arizona 49% 97%
Syracuse 44% 97%
Louisville 36% 96%
Indiana 40% 94%
Michigan 25% 88%
Gonzaga 7% 88%
Miami (FL) 7% 66%
Minnesota 5% 64%
VCU 1% 54%
New Mexico 4% 53%

I would agree with their assessment of Michigan's current chances of being a Top 4 with this much of the season (and by extension, the conference schedule) left. The 25% projection for a #1 seed has to be more about the number of games left than anything else (combined probabilities of independent events and all that), but it is fairly reasonable to assume, I would think, that continued Minnesota-like peformances cause this projection to inch upward. I really like where we sit when it comes to likely being a #1 seed right now.

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