About an hour ago, TomVH posted this tweet.
Looks like some early negative recruiting going on in the Big Ten already.
The question is.........
Who dun it?
About an hour ago, TomVH posted this tweet.
The question is.........
Who dun it?
sparty would be my best guess. God i hate them!!
Well, with their 0 commits so far, it ain't workin'....
Understood negative recruiting to mean getting less than zero recruits.
Don't sell Sparty short. They got a walk on long snapper. In state dominance continues......
like they don't celebrate the hell out of it.
Well then continue to sell them short. I am sure they are just letting us get all of the highly rated in-state clutter out of their way before they make their move.
Guys, guys, Dantonio is just ring selective. Their recent success on the field has enabled him to carefully pick and choose the players best suited for their team. He doesn't consider such ridiculous things as star rankings. He doesn't even know what Rivals is. He picks his players directly out of the Michigan court records. "Felonious assault? We got us a linebacker!"
Someone on 247 posted that Godin was considering pushing back his announcement. He later said that Godin had re-decided to announce on May 12 as scheduled. If that was what Tom VH was referring to, I think that points to Dantonio as the obvious candidate.
If you're right about Godin, I wouldn't rule out Bielema. He's also kind of an...unpleasant individual, although I'm unsure if that transcends ordering vicious assaults on field. But Wisonsin is also in Godin's top three, and they've had a lot of success in recent history. I believe Godin was also planning on visiting or cheese-eating brethren in the future (if I remember correctly).
I'm trying to figure what would be the content on the negative recruiting...
For someone like Bielema, it would likely be "proven success vs. speculative situation" or "insufficient supply of cheese." My money's on the latter.
I can see Bielema doing it. He looks like a goblin.
It's probably against osu. Makes the most sense.
But would Tom tweet about negative recruiting against OSU? It seems like it would have to be about another school badmouthing us.
OSU is the one school, that we know from a first-hand eyewitness, was NOT negative-recruiting.
It wasn't all that long ago, that former Head Coach Rich Rich Rodriguez gave this interview, specifically exonerating OSU, within his knowledge, as a negative-recruiting team:
What is still interesting to me was that Coach Rod suggested that everyone would hear, "soon," about some of the details on negative recruiting. I suppose that he might be talking about John U. Bacon's book. Or perhaps something else. Perhaps Tom VH knows. Perhaps Tom knows about more, newer, evidence since Bacon's manuscript has gone to the publisher. Maybe another source altogether.
Better yet; if it was in the Free Press, written by Roesenberg and Snyder together, with nothing but anonymous sources cited, and with nothing else -- no other on-the-record sources, no other information, documents, et cetera -- would you trust that?
Are we directly recruiting anyone against Nebraska other than Peat?
a corn allergy. So we have that goin for us, which is nice...
that's one mooky mofo right there.
And between Dantonio, Bielema, Tressel, and Hope over at Purdue, there are quite a lot of unpleasant people coaching B10 teams right now, no?
Bo Pelini anf Bret Bielema were once villains in a Disney movie.
Anyone other then Osu...
The sky is blue. Also Hope is a douche. As well as Dantonio. And Pelini is mean. And JoePa is old. And Zook is an idiot. And Tressel is a liar. And Kill...well he's got a cool name.
It's like Clue! I'll start:
Who: Bret Bielema
Where: De-Vonne Bingham's house
With: An oblique reference to Jim Tressel's problems with the NCAA
I'd rather know what's being said which, of course, might shed light on who it is.
I'd just like to know who, what, where.
I have had zero doubt whatsoever that negative recruting is alive and well ever since Coach Rodriguez mentioned it.
But what I still don't understand is why this story would be so hard to report. Recruiting involves lots of guys, talking to lots of other guys, and in the end there is one "coupling" (coach/recruiter and player) and a dozen or so jilted suitors. One would think that somebody would talk, with all of those breakups.
I'm really curious about this. Why doesn't negative recruiting get outed, on a daily basis?
Danny Hope is tired of Tressel trashing the 'stache...
recruiting Dunn today at school, right. If he was "negative recruiting", by telling him he wouldn't be playing for Tressel if he went to OSU, then I've got no problem with it. Guy is good as gone. Actually, OSU's best case scenario is that he is gone, cause if they can somehow keep him, and do, they won't be playing in a bowl game for at least 2 or 3 years.
I sort of doubt it was us doing the negative recruiting. It doesn't seem like what Hoke would want his guys to do.
I've seen comments (from other fanbases) that Mattison is a huge negative recruiter. Take it with a grain of salt.
Honestly, I think that anybody who is a good recruiter will get a reputation as a negative recruiter. And, honestly, it is probably deserved. Also, there may be subtle hints about the stability of programs in the future, and then there's Les Miles level (rumored) negative recruiting about Parkinson's.
The top recruiter at auburn is considered a good recruiter but other fan bases consider him a dirty recruiter.
In all fairness, the best recruiter at one of the dirtiest programs in the country probably is a dirty recruiter.
The transitive property of college recruiting.
Haven't seen any, just saw that it was his reputation to some.
is the main one you'll hear about from Domers.
Any recruiter who doesn't point out the Tressel situation to 5* tOSU recruits is simply incompetent. I doubt that Mattison is incompetent.
Oh I totally agree. He'd be totally remiss not to discuss it with Dun (or whomever).
Not to be naive or anything, but is it necessarily such a bad thing to do negative recruiting? I mean, would it be awful for Mattison to meet with Dunn and say something like, "You never know what will happen to OSU down the road, with coaches and sanctions etc. Sooooo... come to Michigan" ?
That's a minefield for recruiters. These players develop relationships with the coaches that recruit them. Say Mattison says something about Coach X's job security, but Recruit Y really likes Coach X. That may be off-putting to a 17 year-old.
I certainly hope it wasn't us.. I feel like Hoke and Mattison are beyond that and can just sell UofM to kids without having to resort to bashing other schools.
whether it was all that bad, right? :) In truth, I don't think it gets Mattison anywhere even to say something like, "You'll want to make sure you get a good fix on how the (OSU) investigation is going to play out." (Scenario I contemplated as I asked myself the same question about neg. recruiting.) Because unless the kid and his parents are Martians they are anxious as h about it already.
There is no need for negative talk about other schools. If you want them to think about the situation at tosu, all you have to do is talk about how things are trending upwards at UM, and mention "we had that little issue with stretching that was blown all out of proportion, but we got right on top of it and did a full and imemdiate disclosure and, as you will recall, the NCAA appreciated our honesty and saw there was nothing to it. That's the way we handle things.' Go on to discuss the tradition etc. Draw your own conclusions, kid.
That kinda happened with Cullen. At least that's what he said. I'm sure getting buried on the depth chart factored in slightly as well.
It's been said to many of our recruits. It has been a repetitive meme throughout the last few years, especially during our NCAA related unpleasantness. It was also a long running theme after the Fab Five troubles hit the fan, first with the banm, then recruits were simply told "they don't get to the NCAA."
I imagine now the story is "What kind of a coach is Hoke? What's he ever won?" Luckily it seems like recruits aren't buying that line. Dantonio.
Sad that coaches have to result to speaking negatively about other teams instead of giving the kids valid reasons to join their team and the university they represent.