Sounds like a real bruiser.
Nebraska wins recruiting battle with OSU for 2014 QB Zack Darlington
Admittedly I am unable to connect that reference. I auotmatically associate the name Darlington with NASCAR and the movie Days of Thunder, and can't process anything bearing on other topics.
I wasn't making a reference to anything. Just commenting on the fact that "Darlington" is a wussy sounding name. Like he's an English dandy or something.
Nebraska's new QB:
To be fair, that guy was pretty lethal. That was the point. He was a "crouching tiger hidden badass" trope.
Haha, I actually just watched Rob Roy like two night ago, which is why I picked that picture. He may have been lethal, but he was definitely a dandy.
Oh, no doubt! (Actually- a fop. Dandyism was a later fashion wave created by Beau Brummel which was meant to get the effeminiate nature of fop-ism at a distance that men could still be fashionable). BUT- either way, I wouldn't care how much many pinches snuff my QB wanted to snort, how perfumed his handkerchief was, or how high pitched his laugh is....if he could summarily murder a guy with a few whispy waves of his sword. At least, I wouldn't laugh too loud.
And of course, the name is pronounced without the "r."
It is nice for Nebraska to get a recruiting win over Ohio. Hoping the trend of commitments to teams other than Ohio continues in the next two weeks.
Against OSU or not, the Big10 is hurting for talent, so I'd like to see teams other than UM and OSU pulling in as many good recruits as the conference can get.
What's 11 Warriors saying about this one?
Non commitable offer and doesn't fit there system.
Let's find out, shall we?
I love that this:
We could steal darlington if he becomes our number 1. Sooooo....
...is the very first comment.
Choosing a comment with a -10 score is probably not the best indicator of the fanbase.
I chose it because it was the first comment. Which is why I thought it was funny. Which I said. In the post you're replying to.
They're wondering why Michigan fans are acting like their little brothers. I agree with them. This is the littlest little bro thread I've seen on this site...
Well, since I started the thread, allow me to ask your forgiveness for thinking it might be of interest that a QB recruit whom probably the two most significant opponents on Michigan's schedule both wanted just made his decision. Next time I decide to start a thread about anything other than how awesome Michigan, or that expresses anything other that arrogant indifference to what any other teams are doing, I will be sure to ask you permission first.
It's about time Nebraska starts throwing their weight around recruiting wise.no go after all the Ohio kids that are verbals to Kentucky....in football.
Situation is starting to get pretty worrisome for them. All of their top choices have committed or are strong leans elsewhere and their top second tier choice, Kizer, committed to ND.
He sure seems to be having some struggles with recruiting there. Someone's going to quote me how they're still top 5 in recruiting every year, which isn't what I'm getting at. Everyone just expected Urban to waltz in and grab whatever recruit he wanted, but he's been losing a lot of battles between Michigan, Notre Dame and others. An interesting development for sure
To be fair, last year we were crowing about how OSU was going to be locked out on LBs because they waited too long/couldn't flip Gedeon and McCRay, and whiffed on all of their top targets. And that ended pretty well for them. Urby closes late, can usually flip late-risers who committed early to lesser programs and work his mojo on top recruits who wait forever. That's just how he does it. I grant you, I don't know how that will play with QB recruiting, given the nature of that particular beast- QBs, elite or otherwise, don't tend to be hanging around late in the process, or as likely to flip as any other position.
I agree. No doubt Urb will get good recruits but he hasn't dominated like a lot of people thought he would. He gained Schutt and Noah Spence, high 4/5 star players, after the implosion at PSU.
Sorry but the class he pulled when hired despite the sanctions, was quite good. Those who follow this closely would probably say Meyer is doing exactly as expected.
Weren't they also having trouble with their Oline recruiting? How's their future depth looking there?
As of now the Offensive Line depth isn't the best and recruiting, as of now, has been stagnant.
- Senior Starters: Hall, Linsley, Norwell, Mewhort and Decker (likely at right tackle as sophomore)
- Junior: Underwood (likely to miss the season and redshirt)
- Sophmore: Farris (may share duties at RT), Brown, Boren, Decker (the remaining three may see the field if someone else is injured)
- Freshmen: Elflein, Dodson, Lisle, Garnder ( I doubt these guys see the field as freshmen and red shirt freshmen)
Assuming no one gets injured, the OL should be pretty sound this year. However, if someone gets injured, I wouldn't exactly feel comfortable placing one of the underclassmen in to fill that roll. This isn't to say I don't trust the coaching of the players but as of now, the depth is a huge factor this year.
- Kyle Trout - committed
- Mercelys Jones- committed
- Jamarco Jones
- Demetrius Knox
- Chad Matvey
- Alex Bookser
- Damian Prince
There are a few targets OSU is trying to close out with but the staff has moved OL recruiting to priority number one. Not exactly panicking yet as there is still time to land the guys listed above but it would likely hurt OSU if they didn't get another 2-3 commitments.
They signed Tim Gardner (***) and Evan Lisle (****) in 2013.
They signed J.Boren (***), Taylor Decker (****), Kyle Dodson (****), Pat Eiflin (***), and Joey O'Connor (****) for 2012.
They have Jones (****) and Trout (****) for 2014, but are looking at add at least one JuCo for immediate depth. If they miss on Jones, Knox and Prince are the only top OL left on their target list.
I welcome your due diligence and constructive insight. Here is a superficial beer and firm handshake.
Overrated post re non-commitable offer...wait for it..3-2-1...
Whoops. I meant to up-mod your post, but accidentally down-modded it. Can't undo, sorry.
But yes, the "uncommitable offer" jokes are pretty well worn territory at this point.
and "Luhlzies Sparty recruits intergalactically!!!1!" would both die in a fire.
he's committed to Arkansas but was still looking.
Choose your own ending:
Re: Ohio and this Nebraska commit
a) Urban cooled on him
b) Something about the size of his behind
c) His offer was not committable
d) He wasn't willing to compete
e) Not "sacred brotherhood" material
Uhhhh.uhhhhhhhh...g.! Oh, dammit, I'm so bad at this!
f) The recruit made the best choice possible for him and OSU wasn't it. Congratulate the other team on picking up the recruit and wish him the best of luck, unless you should cross paths again. Finally, move on and hope to find another recruit that is the best option for your program and wants to be a part of your team.
No hard feelings towards Nebraska, they got a kid that the staff wanted and OSU lost out on. Hopefully it works out for the Huskers and he leads their program to success.
You are almost frighteningly rational for an Ohio fan.
Rivals do post here that aren't trolls. Phork should learn something
Phork isn't that bad. I mean, in terms of rationality he is no damefan. (/s) However, I appreciate outside perspectives.
that this kid is from outside of B1G territory, so I guess that's a win-win. If Nebraska becomes good, that's another good program in the conference.
Well, admittedly I don't like OSU having awesome ultra-QBs like Braxton Miler. I much prefer the old days, when their quarterbacks were pretty good but always inhibited by some fatal flaw. I mean, come on--it was much more fun watching Stanley Jackson complete passes to Michigan DBs than watching Braxton Miller complete passes to his own receivers. It was much better seeing Terelle Pryor subject OSU to ridicule and NCAA investigations than see Braxton Miller continually fail to embarrass his program and never say a single word about everybody murdering.
Nebraska doesn't really concern me as much. I don't think they will be able to recruit well enough to ever return to their 20th century glory days. So let them have the guys off Meyer's board.
Don't give up hope on Miller exposing some flaws. He looks good at times but then lost at others. I have a feeling that he'll lose a couple of games this year with his so so accuracy
I don't know if it'll cost them any games, but I agree about Miller's passing. He's definitely a great QB, but he's not some flawless beast. His game consists of: dangerous runner, can make things happen on any given play, with downfield passing of the "heave it down field and cross your fingers" variety. OSU's receivers have been good enough to get the separation that can make that kind of passing work, though.
Braxton Miller never scared me, he is one of the worst QBs osu has had in a decade sinve Pryor and Troy Smith...the guy is innacurate and has bad decision skills. He is fast and has a good arm, BUT thats it.. IMO
That's probably exactly how every Michigan opponent described Denard. I think the two actually have very similar playing styles. And I think Miller is a very good QB who is going to win a lot more games for the Buckeyes.
but I'd still be more scared of say Junior Braxton over Junior Denard or Senior Braxton over Senior Denard. Braxton is a much better passer.
Apopka is a hell of a program. Lots of players in the nfl come from there. I might have to go see them play again this year.
I'll just stick with "he wants to play school" jokes.
uh oh, might be another crying moment for urban. if this keeps going on, somebody better recheck his ekg
when they find out who they always wanted all along.
Bud Elliott at SBNation scouted him in April - the full assessment is here (LINK). Here was how he basically summarized Darlington.
"Darlington is a smart, tough player, and the son of a coach. That doesn't guarantee success, but growing up around the game probably can't hurt. Darlington reminds me a bit of a more controlled Taylor Martinez. If used in the right way, he can be very successful."
In the Sentinel article, it's interesting that he relates things to his own upbringing (e.g., pointing out similarities between Pelini and his father) because we've seen it in our own success that the ability of recruits to personally relate to people and things within a program is definitely a positive draw for them.
Congrats to Nebraska and best of luck to Mr. Darlington in his future endeavors, unless he crosses paths with UM. Then I want him to have the worst game of his life.
I'm pretty sure Ohio will continue to do well. The fact of the matter is, their last two classes, iirc, finished better than Michigan. The big change has been that Michigan recruiting has improved, while Ohio, other than for maybe a year, has consistently been at a pretty high level. I hope that this is the year we pass Ohio (in level of recruits.)
So much of it is luck. Peppers was a Michigan fan for a long time: that has nothing to do with the recruiting prowess of Michigan. There are kids in Ohio who have always wanted to go there. You win some, and lose some, and it isn't about the kid or the school being bad. It just is how it works out.
It really is true that we are all better off if the entire Big 10 has better recruits. The level of recruits for at least Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, and Maryland is concerning. Seeing someone like Darlington go to Nebraska is a good thing.
Agreed. It's always good to see recruits choosing the Big Ten. To regain the strongest conference title we need all our conference to recruit better.
more or less washes, as we were higher on Scout, and only ended up a couple spots apart on 247, so I wouldn't extrapolate too much from that. The thing that will be key, however, is for at least two non-Michigan-Ohio teams to finish well within the top 25 on any consistent basis.
Good post with rational comments. Sorry to the dudes higher on the thread who claim Urban has some fault in his recruiting - everyone does. I am sure there are guys Saban misses out on as well. There are only 20-25 kids you can get in any class so by default Urban will lose some. Did they miss on the OL here or there? Yeah - but the DL is sick. Until this year we have been hit or miss on the DL for a long time; in fact we have not had a really stud DL for a long time (we've had Martin or Graham but a dominant end rusher or two - not for a long time) So we have had issues too.
He is running a different program with a different selling point (I will get you to the NFL and I have NCAA championships in my pocket, and it's all about football here), so just like some of the things a Stanford or Michigan offers would be more attractive to a Hand, there are things Ohio brings that are attractive to a non-Hand. Sometimes it feels like the board expects Ohio to fall apart or if Urban has a #7 class it's over. It's just plain silly - Ohio is going to be around, and now Michigan is back to where it should be and we will lose and win some battles head to head. Best thing for the Big 10 is a lot of years like 2006 in the years ahead- both top dogs getting national attention and en epic battle in late November.
Congrats to Nebraska for bringing this kid in head to head - I'd much rather see however Big 10 teams winning battles over Pac 10 or Big 12 or SEC teams on head to heads. All this does is move the talent from one B10 squad to another since it seems OSU was his second choice.
Urban will pull fewer kids out of Florida then Tressel did. High School coaches and former UF players down here (many involved in high school programs) are well aware of the shenanigans that went on at UF under Meyer. FL high school coaches were directing players away from UF during Meyer's last few years there. He was having to go out of state more and more for talent. Maybe he has learned from the past (although it wouldn't bother me one bit if he hasn't).
What was the shenanigans besides quitting in a strange way?
And a legend in the area. My buddy was the D line coach at a competing area school. When they played each other on espn a few years ago zack was the starter as a freshmen. They were getting handled the first half. Zack got pulled and they rolled to a 60-14 victory. After winning state this year and his brother already in D1, no shock he had his pick of schools. Solid pedigree. Point of the story? Really glad he said fuck ohio.
I can't believe Michigan fans taking up for Urban on here screw him the only reason Ohio can have a better class not because of Urban because Michigan won't accept just any GPA like Ohio does