ND v. MSU, Who do we root for?
Hail, fire, and brimestone.
Also, Charlie Weiss being dropped from a plane onto Brian Kelly and Mark Dantonio.
I'm rooting for an asteroid.
Why do I have to root FOR either of them? I suspect ND will decide they need more criminals after this game, but lil' bro might decide they need more students. Either way, I won't be watching.
I'd like both teams to play spectacularly badly, and then for ND to eke out a win in a way that humiliates and demoralizes MSU.
Better yet, how about a 20-hour rain delay? That would be fun to read about how all the fans left and the players were all exhausted.
I'm pretty happy with the current ND situation. The whole country views it as a recently struggling program, not to mention we've been succesful against them. Sparty, on the other hand, is claiming to be relevant nationally. Barely beating a rebuilding Boise and losing to ND at home thru 3 weeks should shut them up. Go Irish
Root for ND. Always. MSU is a bigger rival, and we have to own the state of Michigan to be nationally competitive. We don't ever want MSU to have the credibiilty that comes from something like a BCS bowl vicotry.
Before we worry about a BCS victory from the thugs in EL.
always the asteroid
but seriously, to hell with ND
I'm rooting for a Tom Gholston punch, a Brian Kelly freakout, a few tommy rees fumbles followed by kneeing a cop, Laveon Bell carrying the ball 50 times, Dion Sims to steal a few computers, a few burning couches....
And a partridge in a pear tree?
Notre Dame beating Sparty was crucial in us getting a BCS bowl last year. I doubt we would have made it to the Sugar Bowl if they'd been 11-2 and we'd been 10-2.
Therefore, in case of a similar situation (God, I hope not....) where we lose to them again, it would ultimately help us for them to have an OOC loss.
Anyway, from an emotional standpoint, I don't really care who wins, I just want to beat both of them.
Or bad weather. Maybe the refs. Maybe they can win.
dude. You pick today of all days to make that joke?
Terrorist jokes on 9/11 are bad. Very bad. Poor taste. Inconsiderate. Uncalled-for. Not good. You need to sit the rest of this month out. Take this time on the Bolivian beach to think about what you've done and come back a changed poster.
for no one, whoever wins I will be like, meh.....but I hope they just beat the shit out of eachother.
Tiebreaker for the division if it's a round-robin tie eventually gets to the highest BCS ranked team, and then overall record.
So say we beat MSU, MSU beats Nebraska, and Nebraska beats us (or with two losses each...Ohio State beats everyone else), Michigan and Nebraska already have out of conference losses. So MSU is going to be ranked higher without an OOC loss, and go to the championship game instead of us. If we want to play for the championship, it helps us to have ND win.
Beating an undefeated MSU but losing to LSU in the Cap 1 Bowl doesn't do our rep any better than winning a mediocre conference and losing to Oregon in the Rose Bowl.
ND is still the progam to fear out of that pair in the longterm. They'll always have the higher ceiling and putting Kelly firmly on the hot seat just keeps them further away from hitting it.
If we can't beat MSU (Maxwell ain't Cousins, losing Worthy is a big deal) and Nebraska (I do thank them for giving the Bruins a great deal of false hope) this year that is just on us.
In a few years when ND finally realizes they have to join a conference and they go all ACC, we won't even be playing them. So they'll be Florida State's problem.
in the Chicagoland area. I can't stand 'em, so root for Sparty, then we crush them the following week for a powerful one-two punch. Plus, ND always acts like they don't need the B1G, don't want the B1G, but they play 3 games a year against the B1G to establish their supremacy in the Midwest.
With any luck, Spartan Stadium will be in the center of the Vogon's new hyperspace bypass. Alternatively, the Borg could always scoop the stadium off the face of the planet in their attempt to gather intelligence on humans. Finding nothing intelligent, they would then move on.
That being said, to make our chances of getting to the BTCG that much better, perhaps Notre Dame will win before the Vogons start construction (but not in time to get out of the stadium).
I'm from South Bend so I'm going for MSU in hopefully a crushing blowout. And it makes the Big Ten look better.
For sparty. Conference needs victories. Doesn't matter much because the media will find a way to spin it to show the decline of the Big Ten. Yep. I'm a little jaded.
How about ND wins a close one, but Sparty beats them up real good and they limp into the next week. That's a win/win scenario. I really don't care who wins to be quite honest, but I always want the B10 to do well.
I don't even have to think about it. I want MSU to lose. I know it's been said over and over again, but MSU fans do not know how to win graciously. With every new win, they remove themselves further from reality and into a land where all teams cower before a Spartan armored Dantonio, all recent B1G and National Championships should belong in East Lansing, and all logic and reasonable understanding of the game of football is thrown out the window.
The thing is, I didn't used to feel this way. I remember when at one point, MSU football and basketball fans (despite the occasional riot and couch burning) were only mildly annoying and overall, not so bad. Heck, I even liked to see MSU do good every once in awhile. Somewhere along the way, the fanbase as whole just snapped and turned into OSU fan wannabes without the football knowledge. So as it stands, at the hands of any and all opponents, I wish upon Sparty a complete and utter crumbling of their sports world until they are beaten into submission and finally understand humility again.
And now that I'm done with my quite dark and anger driven rambling, I'd also like MSU to lose because I'd rather see U of M to go up against an undefeated Irish. Not only does it provide a bigger rankings boost for U of M if we're victorious, but a rivalry game is always so much better when an unblemished record is on the line.
A game where they both look like garbage and come away concerned, but I guess with ND winning, just because I don't care to have MSU in the top 10.
Root for neither.
Beat them both.
That is all.
For reasons mentioned, it helps Michigan when it's division opponents lose. For this reason I will want osu to beat msu as well. So I want nd to win
because I can't freaking stand MSU players, fans, and coaches.
Is there any remote possibility in which this game can be played, and both teams lose?
Flood, Zombie attacks, Black plague. No peticular order.
/jk, I don't condone injury or death on opponents (for trolls sake)
You're ok. Just avoid terrorist attacks. Terrorism will send you to Bolivian.
I hate everything about Notre Dame and would be perfectly content to see them lose every single game they play until the end of eternity (or until they finally lose their undeserved special treatment and join a conference, whichever comes first).
I could be mistaken, but I thought Frank Murphy was Catholic?
Root for whomever you want to win the game. Enough of this crap about rooting according to a formula that will potentially get your favorite team an extra thousandth of a point in the BCS. If the result is not direct or certain then there is no point in fretting over it. I plan on rooting against MSU because they are my least favorite team.
Being a fan is about having fun rooting for your team. It is not a math exam.
who one roots for is involuntary; the heart wants what the heart wants. applicability to this situation: i hate both teams and can make an intellectual argument about who i want to win so it benefits michigan, but until the kickoff and something happens i just don't know who i will want to win. i remember telling myself that i want sparty to win, but then feeling good watching the beat down in SB last year. then other years it made me feel good to see charlie weiss lose to dantonio. we will get to see one of them lose however so it is a win win- watching one of them lose feels good better than watching one of them win feels bad. read it again - that totally makes sense.
Think about it this way:
If MSU beats ND, a very real possibility, they could very well be undefeated by the time October 20 rolls around They'll be ranked in at least the top 8 by then, possibly higher. They will come to Ann Arbor smelling roses and even a BCS Championship berth (it's already started).
If we can somehow manage to beat both ND and Purdue on the road, we will climb higher in the rankings. We will have one loss, but will likely be somewhere in the top 15. When was the last time both teams were ranked in the top 15 for their annual matchup? I think you have to go back to 2003. If the above scenario playes out, it could make for one of the more exciting games we've seen. The chance at beating them, as underdogs, in Ann Arbor would be hard to pass up, but awful if we lose.
I'll probably be rooting for the Spartans.
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I'll see your dog dressed in human clothes and raise you a cat with a lime on its head.
Usually, like most of us, I pull for the b10 in just about every non-conference game, thinking a win will somehow inch the conference closer to national respectability. I'm so sick of hearing repeatedly the pro-sec media talking heads continually slap us around. That being said, I'm finished. Until the b10 can break through with consisently win bcs games and big time non-conference games, it simply isn't going to change the perception the conference has. So I don't care how the conference is potrayed anymore, or the media constantly blasting it. I only care about big blue and our pursuit of a title and Pasadena. So to hell with Sparty and there tremendous tool of a coach and idiotic fanbase. Go Irish, just for this week, put Sparty in there place, and drop a duece all over East Lansing and there ridiculous followers
With the B1G looking like a steaming pile of shit, I'll go for MSU in this one. Even if it goes against everything I believe in. We'll have our chance to take them out later in the season.
I hate how overrated ND is year in and year out. But after their recent string of mediocrity and their fans posting things like "I don't ever think we'll beat Michigan in my lifetime again", they have become a much more tolerable fan base. MSU has the most annoying fanbase to ever walk this planet, so fuck 'em.
I've accepted that the B1G is crap as of now. So I'm not going to even worry about the B1G's appearance right now and that a MSU win looks good for the B1G, all I care about is us winning the B1G. So I'm going to be rooting for the team I hate less, ND.
Also, it'll be fun beating ND again this year, especially after they've beaten MSU and have even more unwarranted hype than usual. And on the off cance they beat us, oh well, after the past 3 years I can deal with 1 loss to ND.
Rooting for the Irish!
I hate to say it, well since both teams can't lose, Go ND..