was the joke part.
in town for free camps
was the joke part.
Obvious troll is obvious
Then who the heck was offsides then?
Still less embarrassing than Freekbass.
Swarbick is upset over a fictitious death of a fictitious ND football players GF conjured up by god knows who but he didn't get upset when Lizzy Seeberg committed suicide after being allegedly assaulted by one of his defensive stars or when a video coordinator died at practice when it could have easily been prevented?
Is the PC online yet? I haven't been able to find it.
All more suspicious than George o'learys resume
why let ESPN run his segment during the NC game, ~2 weeks later?
One of the creepiest parts of the Deadspin article was the fact that CBS This Morning ran the story on the morning of the NC game with a photo of a dead girlfriend that turned out to be the photo of a currently living California resident, who was rightfully shocked, of course. So, I wonder the same thing actually - if indeed the school knew by then, why would they not do everything possible to stop these from airing by being upfront with the networks about their veracity? Worse, who supplied them with the means to get a photo of someone that by now they must have known was not Manti's supposedly deceased girlfiend? If they failed to stop this, either Te'o or the school would be complicit allowing the life of someone they don't even know to be invaded - perhaps even materially affected - in a decidely not-so-good way, and that's simply beyond low.
Given their reputation it seems this was an ND football program decision. Teo just agreed to it. There are too many prior transgressions from Brian Kelly to believe otherwise.
How awful would it be if that poor girl now gets recognized for being "Te'o's fake girlfriend"?
ND went all in on Manti telling the truth...he's going to have to answer some tough questions soon and if a lot of unlikely things didn't happen both he, the university and the football team are going to look very bad.
They already look really bad.....to any reasonable person
Now for all the cover-up's. Crazy story we have here. Unbelievable really. Get it?
After it was all done, the athletic director came back on stage and said Charlie Weis wasn't really morbidly obese, it's just an elaborate hoax with mirrors, and smoke. He is actually the definition of healthy living... It's ridiculous how much Notre Dame is trying to cover it up. Like my parents said growing up, never cover a lie with a lie...
I'm not obese?.......I am not actually a Hugh Jass?
This just dawned on me, has anyone asked for Musburger's comment's on Teo's girlfriend?
Think I'll flip on a movie. Was thinking maybe Lars and the Real Girl?
This looks bad for ND and T'eo, but I would reserve judgment at this point. Deadspin's sources for Te'o being in on this are anonymous people on the Internet, who are speculating. Te'o could have embellished other details to give a backstory for a very naive thing that he did (falling for someone he met on the Internet, and never met in person); I am not sure I believe this at all, but stranger things have happened. In any event, I doubt that ND is going to hold a press conference saying it believes one of its student-atheletes is a liar, when the story they have been told is plausible.
Maybe prima facia plausible but for them to have allegedly hired a PI to investigate it and then go all cloak and dagger on the report isn't lending to my willing suspension of disbelief.
So if Te'o is to be believed the story goes something like this:
He met this girl online and over about 2 years he falls in love with her. He never meets he in person and they never Skype, FaceTime, etc. When asked how they met he says they met at/after the Stanford game (maybe lying to say they met in person/shook hands/exchanged numbers).
After this growing love is given time to develop so strong there are indications they are going to get married (at least that is what the dad thinks). She gets into a car accident. He doesn't fly out to see her in the hospital. While she is in the hospital the dx her with leukemia. He doesn't fly out to see her then either. She is released from the hospital. He doesn't go and she her. She dies, he doesn't go to her funeral. After the season is over he never goes out and visits her grave/headstone. This is the women he was in love with and was going to marry and he never goes to see her even when all these awful things are befalling her. He doesn't make a surprise midweek trip (I'm sure the coaches/administration would/should understand- it would make a good story how he visited her and still made it back for her game)
I haven't even covered the apparent misunderstanding where he father believed she came to Hawaii on multiple occasions to visit him.
This is the story as he would tell it. There are so many holes here. Really interested to see what, if any, holes he addresses in his press conference.
pretty good summation. You just forgot the end:
on dec 6th his dead gf calls him, he goes home for awhile, and tells his coach about it two weeks later. Since then he was "gonna tell his story" but was waiting for facts.
I'm giving his story five FAKEs out of five.
Sorry, but you are just wrong. Teo never said he met the girl in person after that Stanford game, and one comment from the father about marriage does not support your statement. It is factually inaccurate. You may be right, but your conclusions are not well thought out.
I don't think I made any conclusions. I think i said the story as it is being presented has a bunch of holes that need to be filled.
Teo may or may not have said he met her in person af the stanford game- a newspaper certainly reported/implied that he said it. I guess it wasn't in quotes so they could have been making it up. The article has sense been taken down so I can't cite to it, but it said things words to the effect of their eyse/stares met, they looked into each others' eyes and shook hands. Seems unlikely that a paper is going to just make up a story about them shaking hands/locking eyes if all he says is "I met a girl at the Stanford game." But, as you can see above, I put this in parretheses because it was kind of irrelevant. Without this the story still has holes.
And as to his dad saying they were getting married- again this came from somewhere. Maybe Teo never said they were getting married, but he must have talked about her enough to give that impression. If he knew a girl for 2 or 3 years and dated her seriously for some period it is still shocking he wouldn't fly out to see her EVER, in her time of need after she had "always been there for him in his times of need."
Anyway, my point is I see a lot of holes in the story as we know it right now. I don't really know what I beleive right now. I would like to beleive him because I feel really sorry for him if his sotry is true. But there are just a bunch of unanswered questions.
I totally agree with you about the holes, but in the fairness, I think we've established that we shouldn't be citing journalists or the dad here.
involves fabrication, I believe anyone's conclusion is valid. Don't get caught with "my sources are better" ... that is bullshit.
News Flash - the entire thing about the gf is a fucking lie, or Te'o has the emotional control of a 5 year old. Planet of the Apes is more believable than the nd story.
But I can't think of too many reasons he would think his son was while he was home in Hawaii.
I think this story is as ridiculous as the next guy, and I'm frankly hoping to find out Brian Kelly was somehow involved, but did your "fat lesbian" metaphor add anything to the discussion?
Sexism isn't funny, even on Internet message boards talking about the true oddity of a star football player with a fake, and then dead, girlfriend.
Position: Inspiring dying girlfriend
Attractiveness: Most Beautiful Te'o (n)ever met, but mostly because of her character
Guru Ratings: No. 7 Manti Te'o overall girlfriend, No. 1 online
YMRMFSPA: Hitler Diaries, Balloon boy, Shroud of Turin, Crop Circles, Ron Mexico
Schadenfreude Resulting from Self-Righteousness of Institution Involved: High
Prediction Based on Flimsy Evidence: Heartwarming media stories involving athletes will continue to be based on flimsy evidence
Overall: Five FAKEs out of Five
Fullback for the Arizona Cardinals, Reagan Mauia, claims that Kekua (Teo's nonexistent dead gf) does in fact exist.
This story is only beginning to unravel. Stock up on popcorn everyone.
WTF? This shit is getting ridiculous now. How can that Cardinals FB think this is the same person? What makes him think that? Maybe this Tuoiusioopppo guy is pathologic, but it still doesn't explain everything. Teo basically embellished everything about the relationship and when he was getting national recognition, never really refuted it. Maybe he got caught up in the lie and couldn't back down after it took a life of its own. I don't know, but this shit cray...
So let me get this straight. Deadspin does a HUGE story with tons of investigating revealing this person does not exist. Notre Dame holds a press conference confirming. Manti Te'o releases a statement confirming she doesn't exist. Then this guy says no she is real. Ahahahah. Wtf.
Daytime soap opera writers are being put to shame by this shitstorm. Can't wait for tomorrows Teo press conference.
If this an example of "someone else that was duped" that the ND AD was referring to. The fact he still claims she is real is certainly strange
I'm watching Catfish right now and the kid in that figured it out 20 minutes in. Nice try, Te'o.
Also a lot of people think Catfish was a hoax, fwiw.
Guys I think we have missed the most important question here: what is mspaint like a champion going to do about this?
First the Fat Boys break up, now this.
... Nothin' more to believe in...
I wish I wasn't on my phone because I can't upvote this. +1 to you anyway.
Too good not to share
That this interview is now on page 3
And to think Armstrong's confession episode was going to finally put her fail network on the map. =[
This guy ripped off the Brady Bunch. Jan Brady/George Glass ring a bell? Fake phone calls? "Oh hiiiii George."
I expect to see legendary signs about this. Signs that will be displayed in gif form by ND haters for decades to come. Signs that people will reference as classic ND burns. We can do it people. This is absolute grade A material and if we don't exploit that, then can we truly call ourselves MICHIGAN MEN (and WOMEN)??
I feel bad for the poor guy.
Dude fakes this to win the Heisman. That's pretty gross.
I don't think he faked this to win the Heisman...or at least not primarily.