Brian Kelly has got to be the worst at actually keeping his kids
ND loses 5-star and 4-star receivers from 2012 class
He packed on a few by the end of his NBA career:
Travis Henry has Kemp beat - 11 kids with 10 different women.
Imagine how many kids he'd have if he didn't have the sperm-destroying power of marijuana...
is the clear winner. 29 kids with 16 different women. That's just impressive!
So he was essentially averaging 2/per? Hell, we should thank him, he's a job creator. Think of all the teachers / pediatricians / day care workers / farmers / school security guards / social workers / police officers / prison guards / parole officers / criminal court judges / court clerks / wardens / morticians he's put to work over the years just by having those 29 kids? Imagine him without the NBA...
What about Rich Rodriguez
you said a bad word! pitchforks! torches!
You need to add approximately 15 paragraphs to your post for this to be accurate.
but that was funny.
How strange that you praise another user who *just so happens* to have joined the site on the exact same date as you. Obviously RDT and WIAB were only a small part of an MGoEpidemic. #busted
And you have to reference "Three and Out".
No kidding. I always felt like he was a terrible manager of his players. Part of a coach's job is to bring wayward kids back into the fold and make them contributors. It seemed like he just kept running players off the team instead of doing the extra work to make them want to stay. Fortunately, Hoke seems much better at the roster management aspect of coaching. That, and hiring Greg Mattison. Hiring Mattison is a great coaching trait.
Managing players, managing staff, doing the PR that comes with a high-level management job.
Those things cannot be delegated. Everything else can--there's probably some stuff you're good at that you keep, but you get to pick and choose. The management stuff, that's yours no matter what.
The guy is a dick.
The Everett Golson effect.
In a courtroom.
Was Notre Dame football 2012 really a Cinderella story and not a return to prominence? I think the answer is yes.
I think ND is here to stay but they won't fluke their way into a NC game again anytime soon.
Agreed. Kelly is a very good football coach (but a seriously crappy human being), so I don't think ND is going away anytime soon. However, they had the Devil's own luck this past season (much like OSU) and another trip to the MNC game is not that likely in the near future.
I keep hearing this but very good coaches don't have close calls against Purdue, BYU, and Pitt.
- Brigham Young 24, Michigan 17
- Purdue 31, Michigan 29
- Purdue 24, Michigan 21
- Purdue 16, Michigan 14
- Michigan 9, Purdue 6
- Michigan 20, Purdue 17
I still think Bo was a very good coach.
Hopefully he doesn't let the presence of actual facts get in the way of his opinion.
The 2012 ND football team was an augmented version of the 2011 Michigan football team.
Both overachieved (obviously ND had no business being 12-1, and we were a lofty 11-2), but were very solid squads. Honestly, if we had taken care of business against Iowa that year, we would have sat in the same position at 12-1.
They weren't a Cinderella story. They were the same ND team that usually goes 8-5, or 9-4; they just got an inordinate amount of lucky breaks last season.
ND having highly recruited players transfer?
Color me shocked.
Phork, what gives? Why are they leaving?
Its frustrating for sure, even going back to Lynch. Its amazing the power pussy has over kids. Ferguson, regardless of what Papa says, was falling on the depth chart, even behind some freshman. Work ethic was also up for debate.
Neal had a kid with his girlfriend that he has had since the 7th grade. Curious choices of schools in Cali vs Arizona where he was originally expected to sign.
Greenberry & Tee Sheppard are also curious cases. Greenberry flipped at the last second to Houston after telling the ND staff that Tee was headed to USC. Tee ended up at ND but he didn't have the required classes.
Apparently Gunner has no chest. Not a lot of info here.
To hell with notre dame!
Thanks for the laugh.
it's hard to blame the davonte neal transfer on kelly. guy just wants to be a good dad.
Yep. That sounds about right. Kelly is an asshole, I now wish these kids the best of luck and actually mean it.
Word is Safety Elijah Shumate is transferring also
I heard this too. I can't remember where. Here is a source though.
You win the internets today, Sir.
Highly doubt that. So unless you have a source I wouldn't count it.
because Gunner Keil left. Duh.
Notre Dame played above their ability this past season. I don't think they'll be a pushover, but I don't think that they are a top ten caliber team either
Surprising but not unfortunate. Hopefully Kelly sticks around
....as you know that NBC would be all over this story, had an interesting quote regarding Ferguson's departure:
"In Ferguson’s case, Jason Ferguson said some level of discomfort on the part of his son was the driving force behind the receiver’s decision, although no specifics were given."
Ferguson's dad apparently said that there were no issues with playing time or anything specific like that. The NBC story links to the ND site on 247Sports and goes into a little more detail (but not much).
It doesn't matter, in 2 years we don't have to worry about them again.
Kelly's view on players transferring out: "This is a process every year we go through: You have some additions, you have some deletions," Kelly told the Chicago Tribune. "But we didn't miss a step."
So...nothing really important here. Some stay, some leave, they're just numbers...
Hoke says pretty much the same stuff. As much as you'd like to spin it, there's just not that much that can be said about kids who leave the program.
Combing through our 2012 class (from which we have yet to lose a single player) it appears, based on practice tea leaves or what they did as true freshmen, that every single 4 or 5 star is going to be a significant contributor. The only one whose potential now seems to be in doubt is Terry Richardson. Then you add the clear fact that many 3 stars were underrated, (Funchess, Wormley, Ojemudia et al) 2012 is setting up to be the highest percentage yield class I think we have seen since the dawn of the recruiting websites. If 2013 class produces similar results things could get very interesting.
They never got over the death of Te'o's girlfriend.
What are these "4 & 5 Star Wide Recievers" you speak of? I didn't know they made those any longer.
Neal hurts the most. Ferguson was about playtime, he was sliding down the depth chart. As for ND not being a top10 team I think you are dreaming. The defense is what drove the team last year. If we could ever field an offense we'd be dangerous.
Some of my cronies aren't too concerned about the transfers and frankly if these kids can get play time elsewhere more power to them. I DETEST to the loss of bodies. Our effective haul from the 2012 recruiting class is 13 players and one is a long snapper.
I don't lose sleep over it, we aren't hurting too much at any one place right now, but you all know how the injury bug goes. THat all encompassing Injury God is lurking around every corner.
Put a fork in it ND fan! You will be a 8-5 team in 2013, said it here first.
Noted, and I will be back to eat it or serve it. :)
Once they realized that all being on the ND footaball team was going to score them was an imaginary girlfriend they hit the eject button.
For what it's worth, ESPN was considerably higher on both those guys as recruits than Rivals (Neal 4*, Ferguson 3*) or Scout (Neal 4* CB, Ferguson 3*). Both those guys would be in the bottom 25% of ND's 2013 recruiting class, so I'm sure Kelly sees some Saban-ish upside to their departures.
Neal was going to be our version of your Norfleet whenever we decided to install a punt return package into the punt return team.
Of course he also threatened to eat them if they did.
Notre Dame's offense didn't scare me even before this happened.
tired of reading posts about them. It will end soon when we stop playing. They made their bed, now stop following them. who cares about the domers?