If you're not first you're last.
somehow we're only 124th
If you're not first you're last.
A michigan offer. Not sure why tho.
Happened to that 5 star running back from San Diego that went to USC something Dillon? Ya last time I checked he isn't doing dick now. Who cares that ND landed a running back
Nd is our second or third most significant rival, and we still play them for another few years. Also, they compete with u's directly for recruit (given similar geography, academics, tradition). Why is this not something that is worth a thread? Also, if you are not interested, why click - the title was fairly descriptive. Also, it's the quiet period between Ohio and out bowl, so other than recruiting, why else is there to discuss? NFL teams that have no impact on Michigan? Perhaps another thread on treadwell, Dawson and Greene, just invade we misse something?
This isn't directed at you per se, but I find it silly when people click on a thread just to post that they don't like the topic.
Bryant is high quality and a great pick-up for ND with their top 2 RBs likely gone next year. Also boosts them to top 3 or so class ranking.
South Bend has the same crappy weather to explain to kids from FL and CA, significantly fewer social options than AA, and no SEC lure.
The final grade for our class and recruiting prowess still depends on grabbing a couple playmakers with the last few spots.
I say meh because its a rb.. of all the 5 star bust players over the last decade..rb's has ti be the highest #..stud running backs are a dieing breed
Unless they go to Alabama, where somehow they prove to be just as good, if not better than their ranking.
Actually, I don't think 5-star RB's miss all that often. Going all the way back to 2002, I found just 6 guys who were Rivals 5-stars who I would consider to be "busts."
BUSTS: Darrell Scott, Jermie Calhoun, Dillon Baxter, Jason Gwaltney, Kevin Grady, Michael Johnson
Obviously, the story is yet to be written for a few guys from the past couple classes, but that's a pretty low number for encompassing the last decade. My guess is that there are other positions that have had higher bust rates, but I haven't looked at every spot. And regardless, I think personal issues get in the way more than physical talent. If you look at the above list of guys, at least a few of them (Gwaltney, Grady, Baxter) had off-the-field problems that contributed to their poor/mediocre careers.
I don't know whether Bryant has character issues or not, but if he doesn't, then I'd say there's a pretty good chance that he finds success.
However, in the next couple years our series with them ends. So we won't have to worry about them on a yearly basis. I would rather see these kids commit to ND than OSU who we'll still play yearly. ND always recruits well, and I feel that the coaches we have now do a great job of evaluating talent early and also evaluating character. Think of Micheal Dyer and Isaiah Crowell. Both highly-touted recruits who had character flaws and are no longer at the school they signed with. This kid didn't even have an offer from us. Maybe the coaches knew some stuff about him that made them wary of him. For Michigan to be consistently in the conversation as an elite team, we have to play and beat elite teams.
Wow. This board and the quality of its posters have really gone to shit in the past few months or so. Not saying I'm the greatest poster, but some of these new guys.....whoo
This from the dude with 139 points? Mmmmkay.
I've been reading Mgoblog since the fall of '09 and didn't make an account until much later, so yeah I do remember the "olden days"
However, that one recruit looks the same as many others over the last 25 years at ND. UM needs to do their part and grab a WR & RB!
UM needs a big time skill guy. I think Funchess will be elite at TE but could use more weapons.
Props to ND though. Its clear ND and OSU are carrying the torch for superprograms in the North. I think if UMs OL recruits pan out they can join them.
I'm with the meh crowd, the guys the #2 back from Florida with no comittable offer from all 3 schools in Fl. If that doesn't raise a red flag not sure what does.
Very surprised that the #2 rivals RB has a listed 40 of 4.56. Although he is pretty big already for a HS Sr so he probably won't lose speed putting on weight.
Maybe that's his actual speed, rather than the guys who list 4.3 speed and then run 4.7's at the NFL Combine a few years later.
I agree with some of the posters that it appears that RB's with lots of stars are more likely to work out then lets say an offensive linemen. That all said it is still a number based on potential, specifically NFL potential. What is often overlooked is recruiting players that fit a scheme. The Weis classes were noted did not reflect in wins. But they were acting like a bad NY Yankee team in that they were more a collection of talents then a coherent set of classes.
There are certain programs that have had great success identifying players that match a scheme and playing to that scheme. At their best Iowa did this. Wisc also has had a lot of success without neccesarily uber recruits. Oregon is a BCS player not every year without neccesarily relying on top15 classes every year.
Ultimately there has to be a trust of the coaching staff. Moving to basketball which is much easier to scout because they play so much more, it is amazing that Beilein identifies lower level recruits that either explode as seniors or explode in college. So if Mattison is all excited on a 3 star and passes by a 5 star, I am going to trust Mattison over any recruiting agency.