MichiganManOf1961

December 9th, 2012 at 5:40 PM ^

"Who cares." - This is a website devoted to college football.

"Who posted this garbage." - Look up the page and find out the name at the top.

"Still not sure why we even include those guys in the recruiting summary." - ND is a rival and typically competes for the same talent as Michigan.  Also the only Midwestern power not in the Big Ten.

"Their in the ACC forgodsakes." - They're.  The ACC is crumbling.  We still pursue similar targets and play them quite often.

Hope that helps.

~Herm

Don

December 9th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^

I think you'd fit in better over on the free boards at Rivals or Scout. There you can pound your chest about what an awesome UM fan you are because you're enthusiastically uninformed about what's going on in the world of college football outside the city limits of Ann Arbor. 

MaizeRage89

December 9th, 2012 at 4:08 PM ^

Happened to that 5 star running back from San Diego that went to USC something Dillon? Ya last time I checked he isn't doing dick now. Who cares that ND landed a running back

michgoblue

December 9th, 2012 at 8:03 PM ^

Nd is our second or third most significant rival, and we still play them for another few years. Also, they compete with u's directly for recruit (given similar geography, academics, tradition). Why is this not something that is worth a thread? Also, if you are not interested, why click - the title was fairly descriptive. Also, it's the quiet period between Ohio and out bowl, so other than recruiting, why else is there to discuss? NFL teams that have no impact on Michigan? Perhaps another thread on treadwell, Dawson and Greene, just invade we misse something?



This isn't directed at you per se, but I find it silly when people click on a thread just to post that they don't like the topic.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

December 9th, 2012 at 4:12 PM ^

Bryant is high quality and a great pick-up for ND with their top 2 RBs likely gone next year. Also boosts them to top 3 or so class ranking.

South Bend has the same crappy weather to explain to kids from FL and CA, significantly fewer social options than AA, and no SEC lure.

The final grade for our class and recruiting prowess still depends on grabbing a couple playmakers with the last few spots.

HAIL-YEA

December 9th, 2012 at 4:20 PM ^

I say meh because its a rb.. of all the 5 star bust players over the last decade..rb's has ti be the highest #..stud running backs are a dieing breed

Magnus

December 10th, 2012 at 8:26 AM ^

Actually, I don't think 5-star RB's miss all that often.  Going all the way back to 2002, I found just 6 guys who were Rivals 5-stars who I would consider to be "busts."

BUSTS: Darrell Scott, Jermie Calhoun, Dillon Baxter, Jason Gwaltney, Kevin Grady, Michael Johnson

Obviously, the story is yet to be written for a few guys from the past couple classes, but that's a pretty low number for encompassing the last decade.  My guess is that there are other positions that have had higher bust rates, but I haven't looked at every spot.  And regardless, I think personal issues get in the way more than physical talent.  If you look at the above list of guys, at least a few of them (Gwaltney, Grady, Baxter) had off-the-field problems that contributed to their poor/mediocre careers.

I don't know whether Bryant has character issues or not, but if he doesn't, then I'd say there's a pretty good chance that he finds success.

goblue1213

December 9th, 2012 at 4:38 PM ^

However, in the next couple years our series with them ends. So we won't have to worry about them on a yearly basis. I would rather see these kids commit to ND than OSU who we'll still play yearly. ND always recruits well, and I feel that the coaches we have now do a great job of evaluating talent early and also evaluating character. Think of Micheal Dyer and Isaiah Crowell. Both highly-touted recruits who had character flaws and are no longer at the school they signed with. This kid didn't even have an offer from us. Maybe the coaches knew some stuff about him that made them wary of him. For Michigan to be consistently in the conversation as an elite team, we have to play and beat elite teams.

Jack Daniels

December 9th, 2012 at 4:46 PM ^

Wow. This board and the quality of its posters have really gone to shit in the past few months or so. Not saying I'm the greatest poster, but some of these new guys.....whoo

Zok

December 9th, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^

UM needs a big time skill guy. I think Funchess will be elite at TE but could use more weapons.

Props to ND though. Its clear ND and OSU are carrying the torch for superprograms in the North. I think if UMs OL recruits pan out they can join them.

Dr.Jay

December 9th, 2012 at 7:30 PM ^

I'm with the meh crowd, the guys the #2 back from Florida with no comittable offer from all 3 schools in Fl. If that doesn't raise a red flag not sure what does.

blue note

December 10th, 2012 at 2:59 AM ^

Very surprised that the #2 rivals RB has a listed 40 of 4.56. Although he is pretty big already for a HS Sr so he probably won't lose speed putting on weight. 

hfhmilkman

December 10th, 2012 at 11:23 AM ^

I agree with some of the posters that it appears that RB's with lots of stars are more likely to work out then lets say an offensive linemen.  That all said it is still a number based on potential, specifically NFL potential.  What is often overlooked is recruiting players that fit a scheme.  The Weis classes were noted did not reflect in wins.  But they were acting like a bad NY Yankee team in that they were more a collection of talents then a coherent set of classes. 

There are certain programs that have had great success identifying players that match a scheme and playing to that scheme.  At their best Iowa did this.   Wisc also has had a lot of success without neccesarily uber recruits.  Oregon is a BCS player not every year without neccesarily relying on top15 classes every year. 

Ultimately there has to be a trust of the coaching staff.  Moving to basketball which is much easier to scout because they play so much more, it is amazing that Beilein identifies lower level recruits that either explode as seniors or explode in college.  So if Mattison is all excited on a 3 star and passes by a 5 star, I am going to trust Mattison over any recruiting agency.