That was a good game.
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It WAS a good game until those losers pulled it out at the very end.
Still can't believe Purdue called a timeout with 36 seconds left when ND was going to spike the ball on 3rd down.
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Bad Clock Management
ND also screwed the pooch by calling their last TO before the 1 minute marker. Had Purdue not gifted ND with a TO, Charlie should have been crucified for another hackjob of endgame clock management.
Which only further cements my belief that Charlie the Hutt is a average to good NFL coordinator, but a terrible Head Coach. He's legitimately got NFL quality schemes, but they rely on having NFL talent. Given that, he can play his pass protection games and run NFL routes. Of course, he can't actually manage a game to save his life.
It would have been terrible clock management to spike the ball
You've got 36 seconds and ticking. Calm down, call a pass play, and run it. So the clock ticks down, to, say 15 seconds when you snap the ball on third down. If incomplete, the clock stops and you run your fourth down play.
But from what I heard, it sounds as if spiking the ball was exactly what Weis was looking to do. Purdue didn't so much bail ND out on the clock. It was bailing ND out of their panic mode that was so stupid.
I agree with you
Really ND had 35 seconds to run a third down play which is a ton of time. I'd like to see a replay of that play to see if they were really setting up for a spike. I think the spike talk was more gibberish from Todd Blackledge than anything else and fans ran with it.
Thanks
Andy,
Thanks for putting the clip of Coach Lynch chucking his gum in your video of the game.
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Good grief. Isn't it about
Good grief. Isn't it about time we stop discussing ND?
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similar but
not really. Same concept.
Purdue's Inexplicable TO
Stupid call by Danny Hope to call a time out after the second down. It looked like Weis was trying to signal for Clausen to spike the ball (Weis is not all that good at clock management), which would have given them only one last shot at the endzone. Purdue's time out gave ND time to set up and run two plays. Tough loss for the Boilers but it was partly their own fault.
"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything." B. Simpson
Here's what happened...
If you go back and look at it again, I think what happened was that the play clock ran out and the Purdue coach panicked and called time-out to plead his case. You can see him go after the ref looking for the 5 yard penalty. He was focused on that rather than the situation on the field.
He Called A TO to Argue A Penalty?
And in doing so stopped the clock with 36 secs to go when ND was out of TOs? Maybe that is what he did, but it doesn't make it any less stupid.
"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything." B. Simpson
I'm not saying that Charlie Weis is this smart, but...
what if with the 50 or so seconds left on second down, Charlie sends in the running play with the instructions, if we don't make it, run around like chickens with your heads cut off, I'll act like I'm instructing you to spike, but when you line up, instead of spiking it, run this pass play on 3rd down.
He had plenty of time to do that. There were 36 seconds left. If the third down pass had been incomplete, there would have been time on the clock for a fourth down play.
I'm not saying that's what Charlie was up to, but it would have been a clever way to catch Purdue napping.
Total Bielema mistake, that
Total Bielema mistake, that TO.
I wonder
if Hope is going to go Mike Gundy on another caller in to his radio show this week?
Notre Dame is once again
Notre Dame is once again going to end up with a respectable record without actually beating anyone with a winning record. Disgusting.
You realize UM has not played
You realize UM has not played a single road game yet right?
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So, ND's Problem Is It's Tough Away Schedule???
Not sure I get your point. That's like me saying we haven't lost any road games yet this year. And if you think ND is playing up to the potential of its players, great. Enjoy yourself some more Charlie for a long, long time.
"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything." B. Simpson
No my comment was more of a
No my comment was more of a "pot calling the kettle black" form. I don't think there is much of a base for him to be passing judgement from.
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Yeah, right...
Yeah, Irish, you're right. We should all stop being so harsh that paragon of enlightened coaching, Charlie Weis. Why should we take mere fact and use it to unfairly hold him responsible for his own decisions?
I hope the ND admins think just like you do; that would ensure that Weis has a long career at ND and that he continues to keep their "sleeping giant" status intact.
As for "pot calling the kettle black," have you ever considered the subtle racial overtones of that statement? I stopped using it about forty years ago when I realized what I was actually saying.
Well I am not really sure
Well I am not really sure where all that came from? I don't know what decisions Weis made that I should be holding against him, the original post I was responding to was on perceived weak schedule, which was "disgusting". Now I am a ND fan and for the most part a Weis fan, I take the good with the bad. Without the bad, the good wouldn't be anything anyway.
If that olden day saying offended anyone I apologize that wasn't my intention.
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Michigan's schedule to this
Michigan's schedule to this point doesn't matter. Michigan's future schedule is what matters. Michigan's only hope of getting to a BCS bowl (unlikely) or a New Year's Day bowl (possible) is to do well against a schedule of tough teams. Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa. We'll play those teams, and if we do well, we'll get ranked well and get a nice bowl. If we don't do well, we'll get a crappy bowl.
Notre Dame, on the other hand, could lose every game against a halfway decent team (Michigan, USC, one or two others depending on how the season shakes out) win all of their cake games, and somehow wind up in consideration for a top bowl. Don't act like it hasn't happened before. Your three wins so far are against three teams that are a combined 2-9, and two of them took you to the wire.
On the other hand, nobody's voting for you in the polls yet, so maybe they've finally started to learn.
You can complain about our
You can complain about our schedule as much as you want. It means absolutely nothing right now. If your only looking at a team's win/loss record your going to be blind sided by at least 2 teams this year.
Right now I wouldn't even be surprised if ND is ranked ahead of UM by the end of the year.
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At this point
the only thing I care about between Michigan and Notre Dame are the numbers 38 and 34.
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Silver lining
This may ensure Weis's continued employment at ND.
I don't know. With the way
I don't know. With the way Brian Kelly is coaching, something may happen. If he beats VaTech this year, he will be a top coaching candidate all over.
Brian Kelly is a Meteor. He
Brian Kelly is a Meteor. He went from hobunk GVSU in division II to best three seasons (probably) in Cincinnati history in the blink of an eye. Needless to say, I am a fan. I would not have been upset if M hired him and not RichRod eventhough I love me some RR.
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Kelly is already a top
Kelly is already a top candidate. That's not in dispute. The question is whether or not ND will actually fire Weis.
Which was funnier...
Weis' touchdown celebration or Lynch's flip-out??
Lynch's
gum throw
It ain't easy being cheesy
ESPN reports that Lynch's gum hit an elderly lady in the eye
OK, I made that up.
Free Press is reporting
that it was Rich Rod's fault and they are launching a full investigation....
I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....
I didn't see his flipout at
I didn't see his flipout at the game (too busy celebrating). When we got home I watched it on the dvr a good 5 times. Hilarious!!
Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.
Notre Dame pulls another one
Notre Dame pulls another one out, unbelievable.
They were banged up, Purdue had them at home, and still...
the Boilers gak it away.
At least they won...
Had they actually lost to the B10 bottom-dweller, how would that have made us feel about our win?
Agreed
I can't stand Notre Dame but I have no problem with them winning a lot of games this season.....
A.) It keeps Weis employed as the ND head coach
B.) It makes Michigan's victory over them look that much better
The 3rd down play
Actually the 3rd down play was the EXACT same play we ran to win the game, except it was covered so JIMMAH had to go to his other reads.
The 4th down play looked like an intended curl.
Jabba the Butt
looked like he wanted to cry when Purdue scored that go ahead TD. He sure got bailed out by the Boilermaker coaching staff.
What the Hell. -Jack Burton
That was a good game.