ND fans are really losing it....
Not like they ever had it, but this is just sad.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=109&f=2594&t=6547468
My favorite conspiracy theory from that thread is....
IrishTexan wrote: The only reasonable explanation for the bad calls against ND is that NO ONE wants ND to win but ND. As long as ND has a mediocre W/L record, there will be a possibility that the football team can be forced into a conference. If ND can get back to being a consistent BCS contender (and maybe a championship...) then the conference gibberish will go away.
It is usually Big10 or Big East crews making such calls. Look at the measures the Big10 was going to do to get ND to join over the off-season. ND alone would save the Big East football conference. They will not get many fair called games by those crews unless they join.
Just my opinion.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:16 AM ^
ND got calls their way in the M v. ND game all day. They were basically piggy back riding our d-line
October 27th, 2010 at 10:21 AM ^
Yeah that was a poorly officiated game.
ND fans just need to settle the hell down. They are about as impatient as they come. I have no doubt that Kelly is going to do a pretty nice job at ND, but it takes time (as us UM fans obviously know).
October 27th, 2010 at 10:49 AM ^
Given how quickly some people have wanted to ride RR out of town, I'm not so sure "UM fans obviously know".
October 27th, 2010 at 11:22 AM ^
What I am saying though is that UM fans obviously know that it takes some time for a new system to be implemented and executed like it is meant to be. Kelly is bringing in a new system that will take some time to get going and ND fans need to realize that. I understand that they are as demanding to get back to the top as we are and are frustrated with how the last few years (longer actually) have gone. And yes, plenty of UM fans have been wishing RR gone after 2 horrid years, but look at the improvements and the recruits RR is going after and has coming in.
While I don't like ND, one day they will be back to being a decent team again. This is better for us because we will still be better and beating them each and every year. Therefore, our resume looks better for BCS and NC games.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:17 PM ^
"They are about as impatient as they come."
They should be impatient, they have been talking about a return to glory since 1989.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:19 PM ^
haven't they been returning to glory since 1993?
October 27th, 2010 at 1:44 PM ^
Could you two please get together and work out the official "Return to Glory" startdate?
K?Thanks.
October 27th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^
Split the difference and call it 1991.
October 27th, 2010 at 4:22 PM ^
we demand specifics
October 27th, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^
I bet these theories get confirmed on Wikileaks.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:21 AM ^
That makes a lot of sense. Bad calls prolong the "Return to Glory" campaign and keep devaluing the ND brand. Then they are the perfect fit for the Big Ten or Big East! Brilliant idea!
News flash ND...you're fading into the abyss of irrelevance. No one cares.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
you're fading into the abyss of irrelevance.
Not "fading." It happened a long time ago.
October 27th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
Even a dim star can fade further.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:23 AM ^
No one wants ND to win. Definately no one at NBC, Bowl Game administrators, Apparel manufacturers, or even The Catholic Church.
Money hates Notre Dame.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^
Ugh can you imagine a more obnoxious combination than an Irish Texan?
October 27th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
Maybe if the Texas ND guy earned a graduate degree from Ohio State??
October 27th, 2010 at 10:36 AM ^
his family was from Jersey?!
October 27th, 2010 at 10:44 AM ^
Well then he would be an Italian Texan and not an Irish Texan
October 28th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
we do not have any of our people down there.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^
Mark Dantonio
October 27th, 2010 at 1:39 PM ^
A jew, from Jersey, who is a ginger! uggh
October 27th, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^
If the ND fans feel that way, I think there is a simple solution. The Big10 can do its part by not playing ND anymore. Then, they don't have to worry about ND getting screwed.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:19 PM ^
I so agree. Take Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State and sometimes Northwestern off their schedule and see how things go.
I wonder if the Coast Guard has a football team?
October 27th, 2010 at 2:12 PM ^
Oddly enough they do. I was recruited by them out of high school. They are supposedly the toughest school to get into in the nation. They are an engineering school primarily.
I did not end up going there (something about a 300 lb lineman and the armed forces didn't mix), but they do have a team!
October 27th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
the poster says "back to being a consistent BCS contender"
When did that ever happen before?
October 27th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
They had that one year where they got to a BCS bowl and then were obliterated. That has to be what he's referring to.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:37 AM ^
Yeah - against Ohio State of all teams. Or as it was better known "the Brady Quinn's Sister game".
October 27th, 2010 at 10:41 AM ^
Correction: "The Brady Quinn's sister who's screwing AJ Hawk who just ran over Brady Quinn game."
October 27th, 2010 at 1:51 PM ^
I think A.J. 's hair is longer and prettier than hers.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:11 PM ^
True that, but I would still sniff her hair. Wait, is that creepy?
October 27th, 2010 at 2:14 PM ^
I am pretty sure boots with a skirt is always a bad idea...
Well those boots.
October 27th, 2010 at 4:24 PM ^
she should have gone with the combo applebottom jeans and furred boots
October 27th, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^
The whole stadium was looking at her.
(Obvs.)
October 27th, 2010 at 10:47 AM ^
Let's be fair... they also played in the Sugar Bowl the following year and really got smoked by LSU.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
ND went to BCS bowl games in 2005 and 2006 and were obliterated in both games by LSU and OSU. I think they might have gone to one in 1999 or 1998 as well and were blown out.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:54 AM ^
Didn't Chad Johnson and Oregon State blow ND away in a BCS game too? Three BCS games, three beatdowns. Because guess what? ND never should have been in those games! They have a special path to the BCS as it is but domers see the world lined up against them. Amazing.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:59 AM ^
It was the 2001 Fiesta Bowl (so the 2000 season). Oregon State annihilated them -- I'm too lazy to look it up but IIRC the final was 45-10 or something.
Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh were both on Oregon St that year (I actually remember Houshmandzadeh dropping the ball on the 1 yard line on the way into the end zone for a TD in that game, but the refs missed it). I think Stephen Jackson was on that team too but I'm not sure if he was playing that much yet.
October 27th, 2010 at 11:58 AM ^
41-9... good memory though
http://www.uhnd.com/history/bowl-history/ (WARNING: it's kind of painful to look at the last 10 or so years for ND.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:17 PM ^
how they conveniently left their "big" win over Hawaii in the 2008 Hawaii Bowl off that list.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^
ND used to be a perennial NC contender, but it was before the BCS existed in its current form. If there was ever going to be a valid conspiracy theory, it would be from when they reneged on the CFA contract for their Notredame Broadcasting Company deal and told every other team in college football "we don't need you."
October 27th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
There must have been LOTS of bad calls in the Navy game, I guess.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:38 AM ^
Nebraska > Notre Dame.
Nice try through. Maybe he should mention how ND always gets disrespected in the pre-season polls.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^
ND fans are almost, if not just as dillusional as Penn State fans
October 27th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
WOAH. I don't know if you have been around ND fans very much, but they are by far the most delusional fan base I've ever known. It isn't even close. Have you heard Lou Holtz talk? Now multiply that across their entire fan base, and that's who they are as a people. All of my ND fan friends picked 9-3 or better, with strong strong belief in the better.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:59 AM ^
I hope notre dame gets worse year after year!
October 27th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^
Notre Dame was good starting around the later part of the 60s, very good in the 70s ( when they were getting all the calls their way), pretty good in the 80s ( going 12-0 and 12-1 in 88 & 89 also very good the first part of the 90s.
They have come to expect things their way.
Sometimes Rock, when the team is up against it, when things are going wrong and the breaks are beating the boys-tell them to go in there with all they've got and win just one for the Gipper.
October 27th, 2010 at 11:10 AM ^
Whatever happened to user "Irish"?
October 27th, 2010 at 11:18 AM ^
Like his favorite football program.
October 27th, 2010 at 3:44 PM ^
Michigan beat ND. He'll be back, though possibly not until next year.
For what it's worth, ND isn't having too bad of a season, considering everything. They are 4-4, with losses to 11-1 MSU, 11-1 Stanford, 10-2 Navy, and ? Michigan. They are likely to end up at 6-6 (additional losses to 11-1 Utah and ? USC). Not a bad start for a new coach and a new system, etc. They even have a shot at 7-5 with Kelly's first big victory, over USC to end the season.
It's delicious knowing their fans expected more this season, quite unreasonably so. I think the thing they underestimated was the magnitude of the shift from Weis' (failed) NFL experience/system to Kelly's collegiate experience/system. In some ways, it's even greater than the Carr-Rodriguez sea change. Even with more talent at his disposal, it's going to take Kelly some time.