So Denard is the last player to ever grace the cover of NCAA Football? I'm okay with that.
NCAA will not renew EA Sports contract
If I had made that connection, I would have included that commentary at least. Good looking out.
The contract ends in june 2014 and Denards on the cover of NCAA football 2014 which was released in july 2013. One would think they'll be an ncaa 2015 released in 2014 before the contract expires ( thus why the NCAA is giving them a heads up now). it's possible Devin might be the last NCAA cover athlete tho :D
the NCAA Football 2014 video game will be the last to include the NCAA’s name and logo
reading comprehension +1
EDIT: Already covered.
so, the denard cover wil be the last one? will they make versions for PS1?
That really sucks. At least we were able to get another Michigan player on the cover before all this happened. I wasn't too upset when the NCAA March Madness game went away but having this game go away will really really suck. Guess my wife will be happy that she doesn't have to see me playing video games as much.
As someone that prefers NCAA to Madden I'm a little sad at this announcement.
I'm the same way. I've always purchased NCAA football over Madden. This sucks!
A sure sign that the world is ending!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Seriously? Fuck the NCAA.
This is a joke.
All those countless hours I spent in the offseason. From buying rosters and having them mailed to me on my memory card on the PS2, to spending countless hours creating Teambuilder teams for fellow Michigan fans.
Cool down fellow MGoBlogger. Who knows maybe someone will pick it up and make it better than EA every has. EA is generally bad at making video games, so this may be a good thing (even though I have bought the last two NCAA football games).
EA didn't kill this, the NCAA did and they're not licensing to someone else as long as the O'Bannon case looms.
I've just put so much time into the games. More than I should have.
Someone better pick up for next season because one of my rituals for Michigan games is playing Saturday's matchup on Friday night after I get back from Cass Tech's game. But just before the clock strikes midnight and actually is gameday.
I'm one of those losers who makes custom covers for EVERY game that doesn't have a Michigan guy on the cover-
I admire your dedication, or should I say...Devotion?
/back to day job.
That is pretty loserish...and awesome.
I do talk to girls.....they just don't talk to me. Or they call the police.
Well, to be fair, "Want to have sex with me?" isn't always the best way to start up conversations.
Nice attempt to distance themselves from EA's obvious profiteering off of the images (and, in the case of formations/plays named for Tebow, names) of student-athletes. Looks to me like their lawyers are properly terrified here, but any judge is going to see straight through it.
The NCAA wants to stick around and make itself less vulnerable to lawsuits.
That's certainly what it sounds like from this: "The NCAA has no involvement in licenses between EA and former student-athletes".
the first casualty from the O'Bannon class action suit.
all of the fun
Most gamers point out how little changes they make in each version of this game outside of the rosters. So all the online communities will likely just release new rosters each year around the same time and everyone will start their new dynasties. Same gameplay, new rosters, no need to spend $59 to get it, and Denard will still be on the cover. Sounds pretty good to me.
I hope so. 2k always made a better football game, IMO.
It seems, for now at least, they're getting out of the business.
But given the current business climate and costs of litigation, we determined participating in this game is not in the best interests of the NCAA.
Hmm, missed that part. However, I doubt this will be the end all for college football games. Too much money is there for the NCAA / others to be made.
look up ncaa football made by 2k on YouTube. nfl 2k was awesome but ncaa football 2k was a pile of garbage. I still have it in fact.
They were going to have to make major changes if they kept it soon enough. And I haven't played the last two nearly as much as I used to. And it is kinda cool if Denard is on the last one.
But still a great deal of my video game time nowadays is that game. And while I kinda look forward to having a chance to beat JoePa's streaks now that a new version won't come after a year, but with no backward compatibility, does this mean no college football game for the new PS and XBox systems? Will I have to keep my PS3 hooked up for just this game?
Does this mean there will never be a college football game or EA just can't make anymore?
If there are no more games, I may cry. I've played this damn thing since it came out.
The only problem with having another company make the game is they will be a long way behind what EA is with the football game play and everything else. So it could take 5+ years before a company can make a game even close to what EA has done.
The worst part of this is that we never got a fucking playoff. Maybe they'll release some options like that as DLC. That would be sweet.
One thing left unsaid is how much intellectual property is actually at issue. It sounds like the schools can still be in the game, presumably with their uniforms, stadiums, mascots, etc. Does the NCAA license conference names? Bowl games? Etc.?
Could the game be call College Football 2015 and basically be identical, just without showing the NCAA logo anywhere?
It's more than that I believe. The NCAA encompasses all of that. If they were to use school names, stadiums, Etc they would have to get individual permission from each school.
It's right there in the press release:
"Member colleges and universities license their own trademarks and other intellectual property for the video game. They will have to independently decide whether to continue those business arrangements in the future."
To me, that means the actual teams, stadiums, playbooks, etc. can all be in the game if the schools so choose. My question is what portion of the structure of college football could also be in the game. If you need the ncaa to license such things as conferences, bowl game names, trophies, etc. it's hard for me to imagine the game continuing. But, if it simply can't use the term "NCAA" or its logo, I don't see why the game can't continue basically as is.
One other issue that's left unsaid, is that if the member institutions of the NCAA voted not to continue to license their institutional property, how likely is it that the same members choose to continue their individual relationships? It may be unlikely, unless there's a general feeling that these lawsuits won't continue if individual players have to sue the schools they're currently representing.
Member colleges and universities license their own trademarks and other intellectual property for the video game.
Is that they'll have to call the next game "College Football 2015."
They already have deals with the schools for the use of their logos, uniforms, stadiums, etc. The NCAA could not license those things. The NCAA was simply giving permission to use its name and logo (and blessing, from an enforcement perspective, the fact that current players were effectively being included in a commerical game).
pre-pro football league action game 2015! play with all your favorite fictional players like Denard Robertson of the Schmichigan Schmolverineens, Tom Tebow of the Floridap Graters and Ed O'Bunion of the California University Brewers!
Personally I'm looking forward to another exciting Bulldogs - Wolves College Football Championship.
This is a good example of the danger of unintended consequences that result from legal actions in sports.
A lot of people are cheering the OBannon lawsuit on, because we don't like the NCAA, but there is a strong probability that a sweeping decision would cause serious problems that never occurred to us. Some of those aren't a huge deal (Title IX forces schools to offer equal scholarships for woman athletes, but for a school like Michigan that just means a more robust women's sports program) but some of them can be.
The problem is that we just don't know. If EA ceases publishing college football games due to licensing issues, that will sadden many fans. And the OBannon lawsuit, whether you agree with it or not, is the reason.
The much bigger speed bump for football is not revenue, but head injuries. Football needs to stay ahead of the curve and find a solution to the problem, because if a court or congress gets involved, we may find our sport changed in serious, irrational, fundamental ways with no recourse to change it.
Take a look at an electoral map, figure out which have been the swing states over the last 20 years, and ask yourself how vested the parties are in not pissing off college football fans.
College football is not the big target--the NFL is, and an NFL court loss in a key case could be catastrophic for everyone.
Without getting political (I hope) the way congress could get involved could start from the bottom, from an OSHA investigation or analogous process that gets swept into congress due to the massive public interest.
The NCAA was exploiting its student-athletes. The lawsuit has forced them to stop doing so in this particular way for the time being. They're still going to lose the lawsuit, and the relationship they've had with EA up until now is still going to be one of the central reasons. Further, there is still going to be money to be made by licensing video games in the post-O'Bannon landscape. The primary difference will be that some of it might actually go to the people whose hard work creates the opportunity to make the product in the first place.
The lawsuit is intended to spread some of the revenue to the players who are playing. The potential cessation of a popular video game franchise is not the intent, nor would its cessation result in any additional revenues being distributed to those players.
It's unclear what effects the lawsuit will have on college sports if it is successful. You don't know what will happen, and neither does anybody else. It is possible that the "stipend" program that was proposed by the schools that actually make money simply comes back and gets passed, and players get an extra piece of cash with their scholarships; it's also possible that a judge rules that revenues be distributed directly to the players in a way that puts universities in immediate violation of Title IX and forces them to gut their athletic departments to maintain compliance. It's possible that players are simply permitted to make any money they like without having their eligibility affected, which could result in rapid and unexpected changes to the fabric of college sports as we know it as well-to-do boosters offer cushy "endorsement" deals to recruits in return for attending their school of choice, and it's possible that football and basketball are separated from universities entirely, run as licensed franchises that offer moderate salaries but no educational benefits.
We simply don't know.
That's overblown. The continuation of the franchise, maybe after a gap of a couple of years if a union needs to be formed and contracts require complicated renegotiations, is to be expected under 3 of the 4 alternatives you mention. As for the fourth, what reason is there to think the court would go for something that ``puts universities in immediate violation of Title IX,'' etc.?
Am I wrong in interpreting this as not the end of EA's NCAA football franchise? The way I read it, EA just can't call it "NCAA Football 20xx", and can't use the NCAA's name or logo anywhere. Can't they just call it "College Football 20xx" and continue on, as long as they get the permission from the individual universities?
Sort of. The NCAA is gone, but the individual institutions still must "decide for themselves" whether to be involved. I suspect there is a strong hint that they might find continued association to be unwise. At any rate, if even a couple of big names decide it's not worth the trouble (let's say, Notre Dame, UCLA, Nebraska, and Georgia) the whole thing collapses.
Upshot: This may, in a small way, increase the pressure for a breakaway organization of the big-shot football schools to form their own league.
Now we will return to the days of 2000 where licensing and rights will start splitting up to different gaming services. EA will have the rights to the Rose Bowl and Heisman. 2k will have the Maxwell and Orange Bowl. College football games didn't have everything in it and they sucked.
EA Sports College Football 2015 will still be the exact same thing.
It's just the NCAA name and logo, not the sponsors, not the BCS/College Football Playoff, not the bowls, and most importantly not the teams and players.
Come to think of it, how often do you really see the NCAA logo in the game? Outside of the name NCAA Football, I don't think the NCAA has much to do with the game as it is.
I'm fine with this because EA makes the same game every year, just with new paint and a small amount of stupid new features. I know it's tough to NOT make the same game since it's a sports game, but still, many people stopped buying their football games. I used to obsess over buying them annually, but I can tell you I don't miss them. I bought the '13 version, but barely played it. I will buy the '14 version when I can get one for $40 or less, but I'm not in a hurry for it.
The USA boasts a remarkable 94% of the world's lawsuits. The NCAA performed a simple cost/benefit analysis that told them getting sued was likely to be more costly than the payout from the game.
But who really cares? If the individual teams keep hooking-up EA with their logos, uniforms, etc, I don't care if the NCAA isn't a part of the title.
No doubt the United States is excessively litigious, but that number just seems made up
I was going to skip this edition and wait until it was on the next gen consoles but there goes that bright idea. My question to current users is can you at least add Maryland and Rutgers to the conference?
Yes, you can make custom conferences in dynasty mode.
Yes, you can move any team around with custom conference. I have my Online Dynasty set to the way the conferences will be set up next year.
Do you have to drop a school from a conference when you add another? I know that happens in the version (NCAA 11) I own.
You can go up to 16 teams in a conference before you have to move someone out.
Empty threats are empty. What the NCAA just likely doesn't want is some kind of active contract with EA that O'Bannon can point to. The NCAA is just posturing and acting like they'll cut off the revenue stream as a way of making it so O'Bannon gets nothing even if he wins. In reality, there is too much money on the table and if O'Bannon wins, some kind of structure will be worked out where the NCAA (or conferences or some other group of the schools), some players association type of thing, and EA all get a cut of the action.
Kind of makes sense. If you think O'Bannon is going to win (at least on some points), no sense in signing something with EA that the courts will just rip up in six months anyway. Big impact is likely that NCAA '15 will be a quickly updated version of NCAA '15, as EA might freeze development until the whole thing is settled and EA can project its revenes under the new system. Might mean a buggy product on release day for the next gen consoles.
Exactly who is making the money? College coaches, sure. After that, who? These are all non profit institutions. Most ADs, including ours, are under payed compared to their value in private industry. The only place the university makes money is by getting more donations from Alumni, not from actual revenue. My point being, if you think there is to much money on the table you may be drastically wrong.
To others, lets stop with the exploited stuff, especially at Michigan. Football players benefit as much from that exposure for their future careers, both on and off the field.
The money goes into shiny new facilities and 49 million a year in coaches salaries.
So the players get no benefit from those facilities.
Also, if I were to ask you who was worth more to a college program Saban or a heisman trophy winner, you would have to say Saban and its not even close. So yeah, they should be getting the money.
I have to wonder if this is not the NCAA's way of proving they don't sell athletes likeness. The article on ESPN makes it sound like the next game will be the same just no logo and no NCAA. If that is true, that would make the video game part of the law suit a tough sell.
"By now, most fans will have heard that EA's licensing agreement with the NCAA is set to expire and that we have agreed to part ways. I'm sure gamers are wondering what this means.
This is simple: EA SPORTS will continue to develop and publish college football games, but we will no longer include the NCAA names and marks. Our relationship with the Collegiate Licensing Company is strong and we are already working on a new game for next generation consoles which will launch next year and feature the college teams, leagues and all the innovation fans expect from EA SPORTS.
We took big creative strides with this year's college game and you’ll see much more in the future. We love college football and look forward to making more games for our fans."
- Andrew Wilson