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NCAA Tourney: End of first round conference records
One of the things I look at every year is conference records after each round. I always think this is one of the best indicators of how the conferences really stack up against each other. Granted match-ups have a lot to do with who wins and loses, I still think it is a good indicator of conference strength. Chart? Chart. Conference # of Bids Record Win % R64 R32 Big Ten 7 6-1 .857 7 6 Atlantic 10 5 5-0 1.000 5 5 ACC 4 3-1 .750 4 3 Pac-12 5 3- 2 .600 5 3 Big East 8 3-5 .375 8 3 MVC. 2 2-0 1.000 2 2 SEC 3 2-1 .667 3 2 Big 12 5 2-3 .400 5 2 Mountain West5 2-3 .400 4 2 Atlantic Sun 1 1-0 1.000 1 1 C-USA. 1 1-0 1.000 1 1 Ivy 1 1-0 1.000 1 1 WCC 2 2-1 .667 2 1 By the end of the tournament the Big East will always have more loses because they get the most teams in, but 3-5 in round one is really bad, especially when you add in the Georgetown upset since a 2 seed is usually good for at least one more win in the round of 32. Other things of note: big props to the A10 and MVC. The SEC showed up better than they did in the NIT. The Big 12 is showing some signs of weakness as K State and Ok St we're the second and third place teams in the conference. Yay for the B1G (even with Arggggggggggh Wisconsin). EDIT: not sure what happened to my char formatting. Will need to fix in the morning since it is already 3 AM and my little one will be waking up in 4 hours. Also, should not have done this on my iPad apparently.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:13 AM | good stuff. great chart? (Score:2 Normal)
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good stuff. great chart?

I'd love to see a chart comparison that took into account seeding. perhaps include expected wins~losses, possibly carrying them out for a round or two even if the team has been bounced (georgetown). maybe even weighted based on seed differential (g'town loss > wiscy loss > mizzou loss).

OK get on that random internet guy.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:29 AM | How about... (Score:5 Insightful)
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Conference Teams W L PASE Mean Seed
Big East     8   3 5  -5    5.5
Big Ten      7   6 1   0    4.71
Big 12       5   2 3  -2    6
MWC          5   2 3  -3.5  7.2
A 10         5   6 0   2.5  7.4
Pac-12       5   3 2   1    9.2
ACC          4   3 1  -1    5
SEC          3   2 1   1    8
WCC          2   2 1   0.5  6
MVC          2   2 0   1    8
Sun Belt     2   0 2  -0.5 13.5
C-USA        1   1 0   0    6
OVC          1   0 1   0   11
Patriot      1   0 1   0   11
MAC          1   0 1   0   12
Big Sky      1   0 1   0   13
WAC          1   0 1   0   13
Summit       1   0 1   0   13
Southern     1   0 1   0   14
Horizon      1   0 1   0   14
Ivy          1   1 0   1   14
Southland    1   0 1   0   14
Big West     1   0 1   0   15
A-Sun        1   1 0   1   15
America East 1   0 1   0   15
MAAC         1   0 1   0   15
MEAC         1   1 1   0.5 16
Big South    1   0 1  -0.5 16
NEC          1   0 1  -0.5 16
SWAC         1   0 1   0   16
Colonial     1   1 1   0.5 16

 

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March 23rd, 2013 at 10:02 AM | Thank you for putting this (Score:5 Normal)
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Thank you for putting this chart it. Saves me some work on a tired morning. I will do this from my laptop after Sunday's results to avoid the total and complete chart failure.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:33 AM | A10 (Score:2 Normal)
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The A10 is 6-0! La Salle beat Boise State and Kansas State, VCU beat Akron, Temple beat NC State, Butler beat Bucknell, and St. Louis beat New Mexico State. The A10 is definitely stepping up and producing results. VCU and Michigan will be a fun match up

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March 23rd, 2013 at 8:55 AM | The A10 is definitely doing (Score:2 Normal)
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The A10 is definitely doing well, but how can anyone even keep track of who's in that conference without a scorecard? Two of their top 3 teams are in their first year in the conference.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:43 AM | Fucking Wisconsin (Score:5 Normal)
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Fucking Wisconsin

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 5:04 AM | As I read (Score:2 Normal)
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As I read that chart I said this exact same thing aloud.

 

Pathetic.

Wherever you go, Go Blue!

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March 23rd, 2013 at 1:38 PM | Yeah, (Score:1)
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our coach of the year.

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

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March 23rd, 2013 at 5:03 AM | How bad was the Round of 64 for the Big East? (Score:3 Normal)
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For the conference to get its Performance Above Seed Expectation back to 0, all three of the remaining teams must reach the Final Four.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 5:53 AM | lol... I might get flamed but (Score:0 Flamebait)
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lol... I might get flamed but the Big East is the basketball version of B10 football this year I guess. :-/

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March 23rd, 2013 at 6:53 AM | Some Rough Odds... (Score:1)
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I've been mining numbers from Massey's site, and after today's updates, these will likely change a bit, but right now, the Big Ten still has about a 23% chance (estimated) of having the champion come from those ranks. The Big East - largely driven by Louisville's numbers - would be around 31%, and the ACC is somewhat more remote in its chances at a little under 7%. The Atlantic 10, a member of which we play in a few short hours, would sit in the 5% neighborhood. 

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March 23rd, 2013 at 8:21 AM | Minny (Score:2)
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It was great watching the B1G teams, save Wisconsin, get away from beating each other up and flex their muscle against the rest of the counrty. I especially enjoyed watching Minny beat UCLA at their own game. They were up and down the court the whole night and Dre Hollins really put on a show. Definitley worth staying up for.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 9:00 AM | 6 wins (Score:1)
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Chart says they only have 5 teams in the Big Dance.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 9:06 AM | LaSalle has 2 (Score:3 Normal)
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March 23rd, 2013 at 9:06 AM | Play-in game (Score:3 Normal)
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I think they picked up a win in a play-in game.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 9:34 AM | B1G dominating of course. (Score:2)
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B1G dominating of course. Let's keep it going boys - starting at 12:15

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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March 23rd, 2013 at 10:45 AM | Looks like only OSU benefits (Score:2)
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Looks like only OSU benefits (slightly) from the upsets. There are some tough matchups today and tomorrow. 

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March 23rd, 2013 at 11:07 AM | OSU already had the easiest (Score:2)
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OSU already had the easiest bracket to deal with as Gonzaga was not deserving of a 1-seed nor was New Mexico deserving of a 3-seed. Now with the multitude of upsets in the bracket (LaSalle, Mississippi and Harvard), you can practically take it to the bank that OSU will be in the Final Four.

Help me, Arizona, you're my only hope...from seeing OSU in the Final Four.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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March 23rd, 2013 at 6:44 PM | Iowa State can shoot the three (Score:1)
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Iowa State had the best offense on a per possesion basis in the Big 12.  That game could get away from Ohio State in a hurry.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 11:04 AM | B1G ten looking good! lets (Score:1)
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B1G ten looking good! lets end the A-10's undefeated record.

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March 23rd, 2013 at 11:41 AM | Effing Wisconsin (Score:1)
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The one team to keep us from listening to ESS EEE SEE B.S. and they can't carry their load.

On the plus side, I think Minnie and Illinois can both pull off round 2 surprises.  Let's go B1G!

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March 25th, 2013 at 8:55 AM | Second round (Score:2)
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Anyone updated this for the second round?

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