NCAA Tournament seeding possibilities

We HAVE to beat state and OSU to get a 2 in my opinion...

Number 1 overall seed, this is Michigan fergosakes!

Even if it's one of those two schools I dislike immensely, if any of the co-champions win the Big Ten Tournament, they should have a chance at a number one seed.  I am willing to concede UK and 'Cuse as obvious number one seeds, but that leaves two that could be wide open.  

If they win, UNC should be a number one, and Kansas should be a number one.  If either loses, though, the Big Ten Tournament Champion should get their slot over Duke or Mizzou.  

I am guessing, though, that the ACC gets a number one if UNC or Duke wins their tournament.  The Big 12, though, shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt here.  I think the Big Ten has been a lot tougher conference this year because of a lot more depth, and any of this year's "Big Three" should get the nod over Mizzou or Baylor if they win the Big Ten Tournament.  

I'd have to think the winner of the B10 tourney gets a #1 seed as long as that winner is one of the three league co-champs. I can't see, say, M or Ohio beating Sparty only to get a lower seed. Makes no sense.

I agree with the logic that the winner of the B1G regular season and tourney should have a shot at a 1-seed but this is an odd year. It's highly unusual for a team with 5 conference losses to be the regular season champion. Even though it might "feel" like we should be a top seed the tournament committee is going to have a very hard time giving that distinction to a team with 8 losses. 

It's a shame too because if you take the Iowa and Arkansas losses off the board I think that it would still be well within the realm of possibility. It's obviously been an absolutely amazing year but Iowa has kinda peed in our fruit loops.

If we win the BIG tourny, i believe we would be a 2 seed.  There is nothing wrong with being a 2 or furthermore a 3 seed. 

...that we can even talk about Michigan getting a number 2 seed as a realistic possibility. Who would have thought our boys would finish the season 23-8 with no Darius Morris. It truly has been one heck of a year and I can't wait to see how far this team will go in the BTT and into March Madness. Go Blue!

I'd almost rather be a #3 .... there isn't much of a difference from a #2, and you have a good chance of playing a #11 in the 2nd round. It seems like #11's win very often. The #2 seed plays the winner of 7vs10, which is usually 2 good teams .... 6, 7, 10's are usually from major conferences, 11's are usually mid-majors. I'd like to roll the dice and root for an 11 to beat a 6.

are a 3 seed.  You look up 3 seed in the dictionary and there is the team picture for the 2011-2012 Michigan basketball team.  I really don't think anything can happen in the BTT, including a loss the Minny or winning the whole damn thing that will result in Michigan not being a 3 seed in the tourney.  And that is right where I personally want to be.

I think people are overstating the importance of winning the B1G tournament for NCAA seeding. Our tournament ends only about 30 minutes before the seeds are announced I think. That doesn't give them much time to adjust and give us a new seeding if we win. I think getting to the title game might help our seeding more than winning it.

I think realistically a 2 seed is the ceiling for the big 10. Nobody is breaking into the top 4. I look at the BTT as a prize in itself, not a means to an end. Mostly I want to outperform a couple of "state" schools. When people say that they're better than Michigan, that Michigan "lucked" into a championship, I want them to look as stupid as possible.

I personally think the OP has it exactly right as far as our win/loss and projected seeding goes.  But any talk of a freakin one seed truly makes me laugh.  That has 0.00% chance of happening and I don't care what combination of losses occur elsewhere.  We should be beyond thrilled to even be in the discussion for a two seed with eight losses.

Trust me - if we do somehow get made a second seed on Sunday we will definitely be the subject of much chatter by the respective talking heads immediately afterwards.  I mean right after they all wax poetic over the INJUSTICE of poor Drexell not getting a bid (and they won't) despite their nice long winning streak over...um...nobody.   You don't get the 222 hardest strength of schedule ranking for nothing.

in fact, a 3 may still be in the cards if we lose to MN tonight, depending on other results.

after that, a 4 is more likely than a 2. i seem to remember seeing something in years past about how the committee generally doesn't have time to take the B1G tournament final result into account when determining final seedings. i don't have anything to back this up, just my flawed memory; but if my recollection is correct, then only if getting to the B1G final is sufficient wil we get a 2. i'm not optimistic this will be enough for us.

long story short, i'd say the odds are 75% for a 3, 20% for a 4 and 5% for a 2. what a world!

But a 2 seed is definitely possible. If we beat OSU to reach the conf finals (having beaten them twice this year), it's possible we move past them just for that. Win the whole thing and we're definitely a 2 seed ahead of them.

I also think a 3 seed is on the line today for Michigan. Win and we got it; lose and we could slip to 4. Marquette and Georgetown lost and, barring an ACC championship from Florida State in which it beats UNC and Duke, I think the only threat to earn a 3 seed other than the four teams universally on that line (Baylor, Mich, Marquette, Georgetown) is the Indiana / Wisconsin winner. Since Marquette and Georgetown already lost one (Georgetown) would be more likely to slip to a 4 than Michigan would. But if Michigan loses to Minn, we could slip below Georgetown on the S-curve.

the impact of conference tournaments.  If Michigan loses to Minnesota, I could see them sliding to a 4, but I'm not sure they're in line for a 2 even if they win out.  

They are biting at our heels to grab that 3 seed. I could see a scenario where we lose to Ohio, one of them beats MSU, and we drop to a 4.

That said, G-town's loss last night was very helpful for our 3 seed chances. 

Win tonight and we are a three. Thats good enough for me considering the huge waves we made this year. I think that any seed from 2 through 4 will happen and it doesnt really matter because when it comes to the NCAA tournament anything can happen. 10 and 7 seeds beat 2's in the second round quite frequent in the men's tourney. And the relatively close comparisons of 4/5 and 3/6 matchups in the second round are always fun to watch so whatever we get it will not be as easy beyond the first round.

So, as a Michigan fan you want a loss to Ohio? Confused

Gotta root for Duke and Mizzou to lose early. I think we can manage to do that...

bottom expectation is a 4 seed with a bad loss today, high expectation is a favorable 2 seed with a B1G tourney championship (expecially if wins over OSU and MSU), realistic is a lower 3 seed after either a loss to OSU in the semis or MSU in the finals. B1G isn't getting a 1 seed unless Kansas and / or UNC stumbles and OSU steamrolls through the tourney (which would be wins over Purdue, us, and Mich St.. pretty good close out ot the year).

I agree with the 4 seed and 3 seed predictions.  However, to bump us up to a #2 seed, I think we'd need to beat OSU and Mich St., and do it at least somewhat convincingly (or at least look good while winning those games).  Wins over Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, for example, I don't think would bump us up to a #2.

Unfortunately, the Big Ten is at a disadvantage when it comes to tourney seeding because its so strong top to bottom (sans Nebraska and PSU).  It will be tough or almost impossible for any BT team to get a #1, and depending on how MSU and OSU do this weekend, they might not even get a #2.  Neither team has been exactly hot lately, although OSU played well last Sunday.

Its ok though, I think the BT will do very well in the tourney.  I think Purdue and Indiana, as well as MSU, OSU, and of course Mich will all have a good opportunity to make some noise (not that all of those teams will, but they all will be ready).  Playing tough teams in the BT week in and week out pays off this time of year.