NCAA source: unprecedented penalties against Penn State Monday
NCAA source tells CBS News athletic assn. will announce "unprecedented" penalties against Penn State, football team http://cbsn.ws/QnwOzy
NCAA to hold press conference on #PennState Mon at 9 a.m. ET. Live coverage from @InsidetheNCAA & web stream link avail tmrw.
UPDATE #1:
- Reports that PSU will not fight the penalties. Points to deal between PSU and NCAA.
RT @djoneshoop PennSt will NOT appeal NCAA's decision, I've been told. Speed of decision/lack of contention pts to a deal betw NCAA & PSU
UPDATE #2:
- Yahoo Sports NCAA Angel of Death Charles Robinson reporting penalty of multiple bowls and crippling scholarship losses.
Charles Robinson @CharlesRobinson
Penn State penalty: multiple bowls, crippling scholarship losses & NCAA Prez is levying it w/ no in-house investigation http://tinyurl.com/btmywbn
UPDATE #3:
- CBS Sports reporting massive fine in penalty.
@McMurphyCBS: Penn State will be fined b/w $30 million to $60 million, sources told @CBSSports http://cbsprt.co/O8tNRq
Doesn't neccesarily mean death penalty. Could mean any number of things. That fact that they are handing down penalties without any sort of notification or hearing is also unprecendted.
I was thinking the same thing about Auburn, Miami, and UNC the other day.
I caught the end of Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton's conversation with someone Wednesday afternoon that hinted towards a possible ban on ALL Penn State athletics for 1 year.
all i know is that ITS GREAT TO BE A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE
There is NO difference between how um and pus fans loved their team, their university, their community. The fact we have all cycled thru multiple F5 keys on this blog/board is proof, all of us have been seduced by football too.
So, we aren't better. We aren't different. we are all humans. Your reaction should be: THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD, GOES I.
This is a sad sad sad day for all football fans. Not a time to gloat about our football success versus theirs.
Schools would have to be notified ASAP to find other opponents I would think.
FWIW Source at school playing Penn State this season has heard nothing about season/game being cancelled
Greg Webb decommits, Ross Douglas visits Nebraska, and another commit was working out at FSU camp to try to get a scholarship all this past weekend.
They may have not been given specifics, but they may have been told something down the pipleine.
Ha...with the NCAA, that may be the extent of their penalties...
We hearby force the decommitment of an incomming recruit. May god have mercy on your soul...
However, you're in the minority now.
Most signs are pointing to them playing this season.
On one hand, it seems like the NCAA is over-stepping their bounds, and I agree with Brian on the whole redundancy of punishment thing.
On the other hand, I don't really care and think they deserve it.
Absolutely nailed it.
I agree with this almost exactly.....with one slight change.
I don't think they should get the death penalty. For one, I think that would turn them into a sympathetic figure in the eyes of many, and then you'd have "PSU nation" or whatever feeling like martyrs instead of feeling appropriately chastised. And I don't think it's fair to the current players.
On the other hand, whatever size hammer the NCAA brings outside of that, I'm fine with. If they want to stick with their usual deal, scholarships and bowl bans, only instead of five a year and one season, it's fifty a year and ten seasons, cool.
Mark Emmert was granted authority to punish PSU in unprecedented manner by NCAA Board and Committee
Penn State facing loss of bowl/s and scholarships, but not so-called death penalty
Penn State sanctions expected to be extremely harsh and could even be perceived as more damaging long-term than "death penalty"
Thee sanctions were not self-imposed or negotiated. This is Emmert taking a stand he felt he had to due to horrors in Freeh Report.
but I have a strong feeling PSU was consulted on this otherwise they would need a hearing process. You can't punish a member without due process unless the member is agreeing to the punishment. I think this is just publicity to make the NCAA look good.
Joe Schad's Twitter has a lot to say about this: https://twitter.com/schadjoe/
"Penn State facing loss of bowl/s and scholarships, but not so-called death penalty"
"Penn State sanctions expected to be extremely harsh and could even be perceived as more damaging long-term than "death penalty""
"Thee sanctions were not self-imposed or negotiated. This is Emmert taking a stand he felt he had to due to horrors in Freeh Report."
According to NCAA source via ESPN, it is NOT the death penalty. HOWEVER:
1) the penalties will be intrepreted as EXTREME
2) they may be perceived as worse than, or at least on par with, the death penalty
3) Pres Emerek of the NCAA was granted extended powers by the NCAA board of governors in order to do this.
Penn State sanctions expected to be extremely harsh and could even be perceived as more damaging long-term than "death penalty"
Penn State facing loss of bowl/s and scholarships, but not so-called death penalty
So which is it? Loss of bowls and scholarships really doesn't seem to fit the bill of these crimes. Bowl bans and scholapship losses are like community service nowadays
Not necessarily. If it's something like a 5 year bowl ban and a reduction of 50 scholarships over 5 years, I'd say that's pretty damn brutal. You'd basically be eliminating any decent recruit coming in for the next few years.
Combine that with a current player exodus, and you have a program that gets pounded week in and week out for the next decade.
It will take a decade to recover. The glory days of PSU will be a story to be told to children and grandchildren. Watching them get humbled week in and week out will do what horrifying news could not.
It also allows for future players to be "those who stood", and to create a new beginning, one that does not pay homage to criminals.
Also, it doesn't punish the other schools Penn State has scheduled with. College football schedules are created years in advance, and a last minute opening for 12 schools would create chaos.
But I'm glad I won't see us on the field this year with That Team. Change the uniforms at least....
How sad...we get to play tOSU...
If I was them, you don't touch the Uniforms...what if it was the other way around...no one touches the winged helmets...Period
Not that it matters, but under that scenario, wouldn't PSU's team be weaker in the coming years than it will be this season? It seems that would benefit us.
That's an excellent point. If you just suspend football for a couple years, they'll be back. Their donors will just flood them with case in year three when the program comes back and get PSU rebuilt as quickly as possible. Long term punishment is excellent as it forces the culture at PSU to de emphasis football for years, no matter how much money the donors flood into the program.
My only fear is that in a couple years mass media has moved past this, the NCAA loses its spine, and lifts the last half of the punishment based on time served or something. Otherwise I'm all for crippling PSU down to a level where Indiana can put up 70 on them for the next decade.
"It will take a decade to recover. The glory days of PSU will be a story to be told to children and grandchildren."
Kinda like the team in South Bend?
the penalties or the way they are giving the penalties?
The way they are giving the penalties. Details
A college coach just told me he's already sized up Penn State's roster IF/WHEN players can transfer & play right away. #feedingfrenzy
Based on Feldman's usual sources, proximity, & coaching personalities, my guesses for this coach is either Urban Meyer or Dana Holgorsen.
Nobody goes against St. Urban if they can help it.
Random coach: "Oooooooooo, Matt McGloin and Rob Bolden........"
He had been on the edge of transferring 3 times already. This is his ideal exit strategy.
McFavre will get ya if you're not careful!
I have this image of a job fair at psu, diff schools can set up tables and the psu players can visit each of them...
The job fair essentially happened when SMU got the death penalty. I doubt this time would be any different.
To be fair, I wouldn't say no to a spare upperclass lineman and DT.
in the previous posts, but PSU received a letter of inquiry last November so this is not some sudden decision by the NCAA without the usual investigation.
Also this is harsh and would really F up the Big Ten schedule.
Not necessarily. Everything points to their program still existing in some form and competing after the NCAA punishment. They may be a cupcake game for a very long time but it won't mess with anyone's schedule.
So BK Finest could turn out to be correct after all?
Tomorrow's sanctions will be a reminder to Penn State of how good they've had it the past 15 years. Is it fair to the new kids and staff? No, but there's nothing else you can do about it when this many years have passed.