NCAA source: unprecedented penalties against Penn State Monday

I was thinking the same thing about Auburn, Miami, and UNC the other day.

That seems not only unrealistic but also excessive.

football did this to those kids. The almighty power of football. It seduced previously good men and turned them in an evil regime, made them protect their football brand over the evil they allowed to exist in their midst. The seduction of football greatness gave paternoster absolute power... And absolute power corrupts absolutely...



There is NO difference between how um and pus fans loved their team, their university, their community. The fact we have all cycled thru multiple F5 keys on this blog/board is proof, all of us have been seduced by football too.



So, we aren't better. We aren't different. we are all humans. Your reaction should be: THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD, GOES I.



This is a sad sad sad day for all football fans. Not a time to gloat about our football success versus theirs.

Maybe the have been told. Maybe the Webb transfer wasn't just because he was worried.

However, you're in the minority now.

Most signs are pointing to them playing this season.

Absolutely nailed it.

I agree with this almost exactly.....with one slight change.

I don't think they should get the death penalty.  For one, I think that would turn them into a sympathetic figure in the eyes of many, and then you'd have "PSU nation" or whatever feeling like martyrs instead of feeling appropriately chastised.  And I don't think it's fair to the current players.

On the other hand, whatever size hammer the NCAA brings outside of that, I'm fine with.  If they want to stick with their usual deal, scholarships and bowl bans, only instead of five a year and one season, it's fifty a year and ten seasons, cool.

but I have a strong feeling PSU was consulted on this otherwise they would need a hearing process. You can't punish a member without due process unless the member is agreeing to the punishment. I think this is just publicity to make the NCAA look good.

Not necessarily. If it's something like a 5 year bowl ban and a reduction of 50 scholarships over 5 years, I'd say that's pretty damn brutal. You'd basically be eliminating any decent recruit coming in for the next few years.

Combine that with a current player exodus, and you have a program that gets pounded week in and week out for the next decade.

The way they are giving the penalties. Details

Why didn't he just say Urban Meyer?

Random coach: "Oooooooooo, Matt McGloin and Rob Bolden........"

Bet the big ten bars anyone from granting Scillies to psu players. Will be a feeding frenzy.



I have this image of a job fair at psu, diff schools can set up tables and the psu players can visit each of them...

To be fair, I wouldn't say no to a spare upperclass lineman and DT.  

Not necessarily. Everything points to their program still existing in some form and competing after the NCAA punishment. They may be a cupcake game for a very long time but it won't mess with anyone's schedule.

So BK Finest could turn out to be correct after all?

Actually, if the NCAA allows PSU players to freely transfer, it's very fair to them. I would hope that quite a few players would love to get away from that turmoil on campus. They didn't sign up for any of what they're getting now, even if the NCAA does nothing. The option to transfer without sitting out a year makes it a lot easier to get away to a better environment.

Penn State deserves what they have coming to them, but its ridiculous that OSU got a better coach due to their scandal, and now are getting much better recruiting classes due to PSU's scandal. It's frustrating, to say the least.