I'm looking at you.
chance of bowl: 13.6%
I'm looking at you.
I don't know what I wanted but this was stuff we already knew.
Really was hoping for more that would clearly spell out an institutional problem. This will be easy to push all on Tresel.
Gene Smith did say in a press conference that this was an isolated incident and that they didn't have a systemic problem.
And really, what's to push? Sure they got a bunch of people to say what went on. But most of them did so on request of anonymity. So, how does any of that help an NCAA investigation?
Sure, it further confirms a lot of what everyone was suspecting. But ultimately it doesn't do much to push any cases forward. *Maybe* now the NCAA has a bigger list of players to interview. But what's to keep them all from saying it's all lies? Or taking the Clarrett route and just stonewalling? Where's the smoking gun?
It was an interesting read and well researched and written. But it's hardly as damning as the cover implies.
On page 1 Rob Rose admitted that he traded memorabilia for tats...
He was not one of the listed tat scandal players...
but Gene Smith says in December 2010 that everything is fine and that the issues are isolated etc.
Bottom line is that the rose admission coupled with the named players (and understand, SI cannot name anyone without clear and defineable evidence for fear of defamation lawsuits) leads one clearly down the path targeting institutional control.
Of course, something new comes up in this daily...like Terrelle driving 8 cars in 3 years or pulling up in a 350z. Finally, I think most of us on MGoBlog are aware of the scandals at tUofOSU because we've followed their shenanigans and 400 self reported 'minor' violations and the 'Senator' act and Doug F'ing Archie's god damned incompetence for years. We all know this...but to my dad who doesn't follow the blog (and your average tUofOSU hater or other football fan) this crap is seismic like Bosworth '87.
unbelievable triple freaking post.
so irritable at those cheaters in Columbus I double posted.
The shwag for weed part was interesting. Dollars to doughnuts they have the names and gave them to the NCAA and OSU legal teams, but weren't willing to put them in print on the word of a felon.
I wish there was a Bobby Lowder type name that the players still leaned on for support. The last cash exchange or no-show job in the article was Troy Smith.
It's still a really strong case for lack of institutional control.
The new stuff is significant. The tattoo stuff was on a scale compliance should have known about. It's not just about Tressel lying anymore.
I think the most damning part leading to an institutional control verdict was Pryor allegedly saying in response to a question about where he got all the merch: "I get what I want."
If the NCAA finds out people in Ohio State's program were supplying the memoribilia getting traded for tats/weed, then look out!
I mean, USC got a 2 year bowl ban and a reduction of 30 scholarships for Reggie Bush taking improper benefits from an agent not directly connected to the university.
between us saying these things on MGoBlog and him saying these things on SI is that he has proof. If he can't prove these things then SI gets the pants sued off of them. He didn't reveal sources ostensibly so they wouldn't get death threats from fans/drug dealers but if he has to he can name sources and probably has no qualms about cooperating with NCAA investigators. What are the odds of the buckeyes hearing being pushed back so new charges can be tacked on?
pretty disappointed in this article. I feel like most of the new stuff that came out was from many years ago and nothing really new happened. While the new in depth info on cars, memorabilia for drugs/tattoos was pretty significant, the media made it seem like there was going to be groundbreaking allegations made. Someone posted earlier that there was going to be stuff on sex, Ted Ginn Sr. being paid to help recruit, and more things that don't come to mind right now. Where was that? Unless more new allegations come out, I'm not so sure of OSU getting USC type sanctions anymore. It's still very possible but not as certain as I believed it would be in anticipation of this article.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why everyone is disappointed. We all read that and got hyped and while I tried NOT to get my hopes up, but I wanted to believe it so bad.
In the end, fuck that guy. He ruined my night.
Come on SI where is the SEX?!?!? This is America, we can't have a real scandal without SEX!!! Am I right????
will actually be new for most of SI's readership who probably don't have the luxury of reading some of the posts by obsessive Michigan fan's that have outlined most of Tressel's background.
The piece trys to tie things together that maybe readers have forgotten or didn't know. If anything I think the piece will get the right folks looking for more.
1. Potentially over two dozen OSU players have been trading memorabilia for tats/weed/car (?cars) for almost a decade. This includes current players who have not yet been suspended and would have been ineligible for the bowl game.
2. No one in the compliance department, or Jim Tressel, claims to have known about #1 until last year.
3. Jim Tressel may have made parking tickets "disappear".
4. Jim Tressel has a history of being blissfully unaware of the cheating going on around him, even though new allegations suggest he rigged raffles as an assistant coach in the 1980s at OSU.
Where there's smoke, there's fire and I doubt we've heard the end of it. It looks like, if the allegations are true, that the current year's team will be decimated by suspensions.
The article pushes the ball forward on multiple counts, giving supporting evidence for a show cause order in particular. Is willful blindness the same as lack of institutional control? Ultimately, that is the question the article is posing and we'll see what the NCAA decides.
some of the most severe penalties ever handed down for 1 offense by 1 player. The depth of the punishment was a result of almost exclusive heresay and a short phone cal snippet. Tressel and tUOS have mountains of evidence against them, buckeye fans won't be groaning and rolling their eyes when the punishment is handed down, they'll be screaming their heads off like they're on Jerry Springer.
USC might firebomb Columbus if OSU doesn't get worse than they did. I work with a USC homer who might call in a Tomahawk strike.
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