FOSU

July 22nd, 2011 at 8:58 PM ^

How do we contact these pricks.  Give me an e mail address for Emmert,, Lach etc.  It is time to blow this shit up.

BigHouseBlue18

July 22nd, 2011 at 9:08 PM ^

 Yep it figures they would get away with it. Oh well just proves how messed up the system really is. All I know is if you are a football player for Michigan just go on out and get a "loaner" car because its not against the rules apparently.

 

Dont get upset however just sit back and laugh at the low life Buckeyes who are not worried about the fact that their beloved coach is a liar and the school they love fired him and also lied. Watch them revel in the fact that they got away with it. Let them show you how much integrity they actually have.

At the end of the day we always new what that school stood for now we just know we were right all along.

pdid123

July 22nd, 2011 at 9:28 PM ^

I am not the KNOWLEDGE, but I am gonna break off some INFORMATION. 1. tsio will receive a post season ban of ATLEAST 1 year. 2. tsio will lose ATLEAST a total of 6 scholies over the next 3 yrs, 2 per yr. 3. tsio will receive probation for ATLEAST 5 yrs. Thats still good news for UofM fans.

Oscar

July 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^

Personally, I am fine with them not getting any type of penalty.  I want and expect UM to regain dominance of the B1G, and it will be even more satisfying without the help of the NCAA.

Wendyk5

July 22nd, 2011 at 10:48 PM ^

Good Dr. Saturday response to this.

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday

I don't for a second believe that tOSU is contrite. I believe they did the necessary evil of offering up the sacrificial Tressel lamb, but not before they gave him the sweet deal they did. If the NCAA doesn't respond with additional sanctions, I hope the media skewers them for being the weak, ineffective organization they are.  

MGoReader04

July 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^

(Ohio is claiming that) it's not Ohio State's coverup. It's Jim Tressel's. In fact, Ohio State acted — or rather, reacted — like a model citizen in removing the bad apple. (And the bad apple's rogue quarterback.) Is it really possible for the people in charge to have that little interest in enforcing their own rules, as long as the paperwork is in order?
Another great, unanswerable question, that we need to find a 4th grader to answer.
But it's beginning to look like a much murkier answer than almost anyone outside of Columbus, Ohio, has imagined before this afternoon.
Suck it, trolls above saying only Michigan fans think Ohio should be heavily punished. Non-Michigan fan commenting on which side is in the minority of public opinion.
The Ohio State and USC cases are similar in the sense that they both involve a star accepting a lot of money from shady characters on the fringes of the program, but the the case against OSU is on a different level. Where USC's violations (as chronicled by the NCAA's final verdict) involved a single player, Ohio State's involve at least six. Where USC consistently disputed that anyone affiliated with the program knew what was going on with Bush — as well as the sketchy evidence the NCAA used to reach that conclusion — the paper trail leading from Jim Tressel's hard drive is an indisputable smoking gun. Which he intentionally concealed as the offending players led the Buckeyes to another conference championship. Ohio State's star player(s) and its head coach did the crime, and no one denies it. Tressel's silence after being tipped to the investigation is the definition of a program failing to cooperate. He's the head coach: He is the program.

 

 

bronxblue

July 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 PM ^

Well, I guess I'm not surprised - the more the NCAA dragged its feet investigating matters, the more you had a sense that OSU had dodged a bullet when Tressel left and Pryor skipped out.  This also makes me think nothing will happen to Auburn and Newton, and pretty much the rest of the SEC and the various recruiting issues you see down there. 

The party most aggrieved by this ruling has to be USC - they were pillored for the Reggie Bush fiasco, but OSU stands to lose far less for what was, at best, a bunch of athletes trading equipment and autographs for money and gifts.  To me, the latter seems far worse than the prior, at least when you consider just how many people were aware of issues going on in Columbus.

BlueNote

July 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 PM ^

Don't forget about ESPN's FOIA lawsuit against Ohio State.  If we have learned anything from the past couple years, new violations are almost inevitably revealed by the media, and NCAA investigations then follow.   And considering the money and effort ESPN is putting into that lawsuit, there WILL be a story about whatever documents come out of it.  There will more than likely be an NCAA violation uncovered.  The only question is whether that violation is a big one or not.

By my reading of the Ohio Supreme Court rules, OSU's response is due Wednesday, August 3.  More could be revealed then.  Or not.

 

 

BlueLobster

July 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 PM ^

I'm expecting the NCAA to accept Ohio's self-imposed penalties (as weak as they are).  Ohio has likley already coordinated with the NCAA on the proper punishment (I believe Smith said as much in his press conference on the self-imposed penalties).  The NCAA is unlikely to dig as much as the sports writers and even if they did people are less likely to talk to the NCAA (you can't go "off the record").  TP is gone and with him the NCAA's ability to interview him.  So....  Dunn is probably unlikely to make a switch.  All in all, this will be significant b/c it brought down Tressel.  Overall, though the coaching loss and uncertainty that has hovered over the program (leading to lost time and decommits) will be the biggest blows to the Buckeyes.  

 

drubrutus

July 22nd, 2011 at 11:19 PM ^

Are you scrubs so pitiful that your only hope for success was to see Ohio St suffer some unwarranted Bowl ban and/or loss of schollies? That is sad. 

I tell ya what, as a token of our sympathy for your talentless program you can keep Kalis. We'll be running over him November of 2012. Havea nice day!

clarkiefromcanada

July 22nd, 2011 at 11:47 PM ^

Welcome. Welcome back. Nice to see you so confident you can come back here and act like nothing happened.

As a token of my sympathy to your ignorance here is a picture of The Senator. He was just looking out for his players,right?. Enjoy.

Oh, I forgot, he's not your coach any more.

Sorry about that.

 

M-jed

July 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 PM ^

If there are no more penalties then not only have we had to endure this lost decade of crap from buckeye fans but we will endure smugness from them about how they got off so lightly. Yes, I do mean lightly. "erasing" the past doesn't mean shit - consider our (mostly) affection for the fab five. The subsequent basketball woes were not directly related in my opinion. Prior? Players come and go. Tressel? They'll be able to pull a coach and get rolling again. As a child I once remarked that "cheaters never win." I was corrected by an adult who said, "cheaters never prosper, but they win." Time to rise up. Time to win it back on the field and forget this mess. I wish I could participate.

AMazinBlue

July 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 PM ^

This proves it is all about the money.  The inmates are running the asylym.  AS far as college football is concerned, there is no "god".  Looks like cheaters will win and if you follow the rules you'll be left behind.  The schools that follow the rules can't win any championships in this scenario.  Whoever cheats the best, will win.

BigBlue4Life

July 23rd, 2011 at 4:05 AM ^

(singing)

Build a Bonfire!

Build a Bonfire!

Put Treeeeeeeeessel* on the top

Put the Ncaa* in the middle

And we'll Burn the fucking lot!

(repeat)

* = insert TP, Fickel,gordon gee etc

jpbucks

July 23rd, 2011 at 7:39 AM ^

HAHA...You guys thought we were getting the death penalty??? Sorry its not going to happen...enjoy a one year recruiting advantage..oh wait we might still get them back once they realize Hokester was feeding them a line of bull&^#@!

MGoReader04

July 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 AM ^

What a proud day to be a buckeye! You've apparently managed to get away with your cheating, covering up your cheating, and lying about covering up your cheating. Again. Congrats!

NJWolverine

July 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^

is that there wasn't as much money involved here as there was in USC.  Remember, Reggie Bush alone involved hundreds of thousands of dollars (he was sued for $290,000, there was the nice house etc...).  The only accusation here involving a substantial amount of money approaching that is the Talbott autographs for money (ESPN report).  I guess the report was either wrong or the NCAA just could not find enough evidence.  Taken together, if you believe the number of players involved according to the reports, the money could end up somewhere approaching Bush alone (although it's hard to quantify car discounts), which would justify a failure to monitor. 

The fact that there wasn't as much money here allows OSU play a sympathy card about how disadvantaged athletes should have been given stipends blah blah blah...a nice diversion from what most of us think is willful blindness.  USC (and Auburn potentially with Cam Newton) could not play that card because the gifts were substantial.  I absolutely think that angle factored into the decision because now everyone is talking about stipends. 

RedGreene

July 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 AM ^

Maurice Clarett claimed he was getting paid and driving free loaner cars way back in 2002.  Nine years later and the same things are happening but the NCAA doesn't consider it LOIC?  What the fuck do you have to do to get hammered for LOIC?  

stmccoy

July 23rd, 2011 at 12:38 PM ^

I knew it.  The NCAA joke continues.  I knew they wouldn't have the pills to come down on tOSU for breaking the rules the past DECADE.  Once again they prove to be a disciplinary organization with the will or inclination to actually discipline.  Why would anyone follow the rules if you are merely slapped on the wrist if you break them.  Unbelievable.  

Sione's Flow

July 23rd, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^

Posts over on bucknuts, show that even though the NCAA may not be doing anything to tsiO, they're more than willing to hammer each other.  The bad mouthing Spielman now, because he gave honest opinions about the program, when the storm was just starting.  Classy bunch to the end.