Pretty light though. Jacory Harris only has to sit out one game. That means he plays OSU. A few players got four games.
NCAA doles out penalties to 8 Miami players
I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.
I've seen this exact comment 20+ times now on different posts from different users. Is this a secret meme or what the hell?
I'm enough of a simpleton that copying and pasting that comment over and over again just never gets old for me.
Also, posting this never gets old for me:
This cracks me up and horrifies me all in one convenient package....
Is this it? They're done investigating this situation now? Or is this only temporary so they can take their sweet time?
no, they're not done investigating Miami. i think they're done with suspensions of current players, however, based upon available information.
The school's punishments are still to come. Keep popcorn handy.
was the AD at Miami when all of this was going on. It's not like he's going to come down hard on them. And plus, they want Miami to be somewhat decent against OSU. That's a big money game. The NCAA wants money. End of story.
Wow you might wanna pull your head outta that sand dune and read what was found and read the yahoo article again!! It's sensationalism story writing to say the least....almost as bad as that Freep crap about us!!
It would be sensationalism if it weren't backed up by records and documentation. They worked on the story for months and wouldn't release something like that as "the guys who are going to release a huge story" if it weren't backed up. Miami fan?
Are you kidding me?!?! Sooooo then where are other players suspensions? Y isn't Marve and the Brown bros suspended?? They were all listed as having taken money and hotels. I'm not a Miami fan but I am a fan of the truth and this just smacks of BS!! A professional liar professing the "truth" to a reporter?? Seriously??
It's been stated that players who transferred and gave statements were given 'limited immunity' that wouldnt affect their status this season
just sounds like you have a bias against the media. every publication isn't like the freep
Marve and the Brown brothers were given limited immunity by the NCAA in return for their cooperation. It's clear that the NCAA is going much harder after Miami than the players. The original source is a liar, but no one is just taking his word for this story. The reporters found a ton of corroboration and the NCAA is looking for more.
They said that if those guys gave testimony, they wouldn't face suspensions. The NCAA did this because of the extraordinary nature of this case.
Also, while you claim to not be a Miami fan, you have previously stated on this blog that your girlfriend is a diehard Miami fan and many of your posts have been about Miami football. As such, I highly doubt that you are unbiased on this issue.
Is called pwnage in 56 different languages. It's called a smack down in 23 others. Kudos.
I must admit sir, I went into your post history and I'm impressed by the frequency with which you use exclamatory punctuation
You do realize that what the players are required to pay back matches yahoo's reporting almost exactly. Contrast it to the difference between the si report on OSU and the NCAA's failure to hand down further sanctions. These suspensions are incredibly bad news for Miami because they suggest the reporting is dead on.
Glad someone pointed this out. This is terrible news for Miami becase the NCAA is confirming everything in the Yahoo article and maybe more.
The worst part is this sentence: "the student-athletes received varying levels of recruiting inducements and extra benefits from university booster Nevin Shapiro and athletics personnel."
Not only was Shapiro involved, so were employees of the university.
This will not end well.
I thought the answer was nothing. The NCAA makes most of their money from the MBB tournament.
If it isn't nothing, it's very close. Conferences control TV contracts, schools own stadiums and the bowls own themselves. If the NCAA makes any money off of football it would be like a small flat fee that it charges every school (if it even does that, I have no idea) for belonging to the NCAA.
And they have a lot of pull with the NCAA, contrary to what the NCAA wants everyone to believe. I meant that with all the money from that game, and from the rest of Miami's season, there's a lot of pressure to let the players play.
We've seen before that smaller schools have a lot of pull withinh the NCAA because of their numbers. Somehow, I doubt most of the member schools are lobbying for Miami to get extra consideration. They'll get hit hard. I don't think these penalties are out of line with what's been done in the past.
Also, that former Miami AD is no longer the chair of the COI.
just for selling his jersey. These guys just got straight up paid. I find it worse that players took money and gave nothing back in exchange. At least, that's how I look at it. And to the last part: didn't know that. When'd he get fired/leave?
Green only got 4 games. He sold his jersey for $1000, with allegations that the money came from an agent. Dee left the NCAA late last year.
I though the Miami allegations surfaced late last year, maybe that's why he left. To me selling something shouldn't be as bad as getting things for free. That's just me though, I'm not the NCAA. Although, I wish...
when is the Ohio final penalties coming? I wait and wait...
I don't think it's worth waiting. I don't think you're going to be happy with the results.
I suspect you'll be dead before you hear anything remotely resembling something that would make you happy.
I mean, I want Miami to get hit hard too, but I want them at full strength against OSU.
I take that back, I want them to beat OSU. Whether or not they do it at full strength is immaterial.
before they can play, that might be hard for some of these players... unless there is another booster handing them cash, which might not be too surprising at this point.
PS What is the deal with Cigarro Cubano downvoting almost every single thread?
they'll just get money from another booster to make the pay backs...
Armstrong' suspension will hurt, but otherwise Miami should be fine against Ohio in the "Ineligi-Bowl."
the mention of michigan in that article, just before the quote about recruiting violations involving third parties, is very misleading.
Same for the pony express 30 for 30.
I continue to lose faith that the ncaa will one day clean up all this mess. They need to make an example out of someone and i was hoping that someone would be osu.
Seriously, 8 players? Out of the 72 that were involved in the scandal? That pathetic. And the COI of NCAA was the AD of Miami at the time? Ha what a coincidence.
You obviously didn't even look at the article. 72 includes the former players implicated. Also the former Miami AD was the COI chair when the USC punishment came down, not now.
Unfortunately (and you know that truely unfortunatley if youve been following mgoblog/sports news this summer) osu wont be receiving the brunt of whatever the ncaa doles out this year, its going to be Miami, and their going to be hit much harder than osu or usc regardless of whether or not each of those schools should have been hit as hard or harder than the U.
People really don't get the importance of this. The players got suspensions they deserved based on the yahoo story. 4 games or so seems to be the going rate for $1000+ benefits. They really weren't any worse than the OSU players. But the key is that they either admitted or the NCAA took as fact all of Shapiro's allegations. With the players, keeping them in limbo is essentially a suspension, so they move a lot quicker. The school's penalty is still to come, and the NCAA will make sure they have as much information as possible before making that decision. But make no mistake, this is the first "official" sign that Miami is in serious trouble.
It's too bad the ncaa won't just crack down on their rules and make the risks out weigh the benefits of cheating.
Ok after reading the numerous replies to my posts I'm not going to answer each one but will respond overall. Wow look at the hate LMFAO. I mean this guy who wrote the article is claiming a lot of money? What 4 grand total between 12 kids. Who is he fooling. Reggie Bush's engine was more than that. And im sure the rent free 750K home his folks were living in for 2 years was a tad bit more than this. Oh by the way how about his dad being TAPED talking about signing with an Agent. You talking heads dont understand that the reason USC and now OSU got hammered is becasue they tried to cover up the violations or obstruct the NCAA. Tressell flat out lied to the NCAA. And OSU players Tats and memorabilia were in excess of a 1000 dollar each which is why they got 5 game suspension. Stop believeing everything Yahoo puts in your head. Youwant to read a real article on this I suggest you read Jason Whitlocks article on Foxsports. He hates Miami but he even smelled @#$% in this matter. So boot me...lambaste me...throw blog feces at me but its just my humble opinion. I may use exclamation points alot...I may be married to a woman that bleeds for The U but come on open your minds to the fact that sometimes stuff is way overblown! Again I'm not saying they are finished with the university not by a long shot but it wont be doom and gloom. Besides just wait till its the SECs turn and THEN and ONLY THEN will you see how tainted those programs really are.
Whitlock's argument is that Robinson's reporting is irresponsible because it relies on a known liar and anonymous sources. First of all, this is not true, as pictoral evidence and financial records clearly show that Shapiro was very friendly with Miami players and gave many of them illegal benefits. Second of all, several former Miami football players confirmed that they took illegal benefits from Shapiro. And not all of them were anonymous.
Also, from the article:
You can’t disguise his poison with stats — 11 months, 100 hours of jailhouse interviews, 21 human sources, including nine former Miami football players, 1,000 pictures, 20,000 financial documents, 5,000 pages of cellphone records, a $1.6 million yacht, $80,000 in receipts at nightclubs, 72 players with possible NCAA violations and nearly 100 interviews.
The stats reveal Robinson's desperation.
Whitlock decided to dismiss all the corroborating evidence to Shapiro's allegations out of hand. So in Whitlock's world, the admissions of former Miami players count for nothing because...well, he never really gives a coherent explanation. So yeah...
For those interested, Charles Robinson responded to Whitlock.