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NCAA 14 Demo: Early Returns & Gripes

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:45 AM
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Its taking me a while to get

Its taking me a while to get used to the acceleration boost but overtime I think I am really going to like it.

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:50 AM
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In reply to couple of your

In reply to couple of your comments. 

Ask a Coach feature - This feature has been in the past few iterations of NCAA football. Nothing new to see here. 

Names of players - This is the first year where I can remember the players having random names at the launch of the game. In prior iterations of NCAA football, players would just have a number. However, I am sure the names are temporary and will allow for the community to post accurate rosters a few days following the launch. Watch both here and at operationsports.com for rosters to look out for in the EA locker. 

Offense seems too easy in this game compared to the last edition. I was struggling on pass defense against Ohio. Braxton Miller was able to pick apart my secondary no matter the alignment or if I threw man-to-man or zone coverage at them. This is completely not in real life with his crappy arm. 

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
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I'm sorry but I have to

I'm sorry but I have to dispute your assertation that Braxton has a crappy arm. Aaron Rodgers is not but he is an above average college passer, at least.

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
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Above average...technically,

Above average...technically, yes. Taylor Martinez had a better passer efficiency last year, though, so I wouldn't exactly say that being above average says much about your passing abilities. Also, that above average efficiency comes from only attempting 20 passes per game at a rate of 13 yards/completion, so it's not like he's really passing it down field a lot.

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June 19th, 2013 at 4:40 PM
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Should have been more

Should have been more specific with regards to Braxton Miller. He has a 100 thousand dollar arm with a 10 cent brain. While Miller did pick apart my secondary, he also threw two picks. The final pick was as their team was driving up to the 10 yard line with 20 seconds left. 

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:48 PM
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Thanks

Haven't played NCAA Football in a long time...thinking '05 maybe?  So didn't think it had that feature in the past.

Would be cool if it REALLY modeled a given coach's tendencies in certain situations - e.g. Hoke recommending Going for It when it's 4th and 2 at the opponent's 48 yard line...instead of the Madden default "YOU SHALL PUNT!!!"

You just KNOW Hoke (even virtual Hoke) would go for it!

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
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I wish you could alter the

I wish you could alter the depth chart

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
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I thought the game didn't

I thought the game didn't come out until July. I have it pre-ordered from BestBuy for July 9 I think.

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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They are talking about the

They are talking about the demo that just came out.

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June 19th, 2013 at 11:56 AM
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They got piped in music at the Big House right.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure

I'm pretty sure they will be doing it for all stadiums, but it does really portray The Big House very well.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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Still no

Lets go blue, temptation. atleast theres custom soundtracks so you can add them.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:42 PM
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This has been my gripe for

This has been my gripe for years, but that is why I'm happy about the custom soundtracks. I have been using the band's CD from about five years ago for my custom soundtrack. I have Temptation in there for a third down stop, Let's Go Blue for various things, and some others.

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June 19th, 2013 at 4:44 PM
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I've always wanted to try it

I've always wanted to try it but I've never bothered to see how it's done. Is it pretty easy to set up?

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June 19th, 2013 at 10:30 PM
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Yes

only problem ive ever had is in '13 the system was basically broken and you could only access the first 5 music files on your ps3 hdd. Before 13 the system worked great.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
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Seems to me

that the super linebackers and ice skating DBs are gone. I'm impressed after one game. Full disclosure: I did beat Ohio 14-7. My positive impressions could be jaded lol

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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Yeah...

I've been playing NCAA 12 with the psychic DBs, so having that fixed was very nice on the Demo, although the passing game was a little too easy at times.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:04 PM
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I'm tempted

After being disappointed with the completely broken Road to Glory and lackluster gameplay of 13, I don't know why I would get this version other than for the cover.

That being said, I'm hoping the issues you guys are having with overpowered offense will be easily corrected with adjusted game sliders. The community support for rosters and sliders are a HUGE reason why I will consider this year's edition.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:21 PM
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Gameplay settings

In the gameplay settings for the demo it shows overall setting for difficulty and a defensive difficulty setting. Thats new and hopefully addresses some short comings.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:11 PM
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The names part doesn't really matter as you can

The names part doesn't really matter as you can download real rosters from people.

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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As far as the passing being easy

I question the gameplay difficulty. Haven't played the demo yet, so I don't know if you can change the gameplay setting. Also, I don't know if it was set on "Varsity," "All-American," or "Heisman" while you were playing it.

What I do know is the higher level of difficult it is set on, the harder it will be. Usually on Heisman you get errant throws (based off of previous game play), while when it is set on the easier setting, the QB accuracy does go through the roof. 

Either that or Gardner is a god.

[EDIT:] Also, the name issue may just be with the demo version. When they released the top ten players on each team, roster names showed up like always (i.e. QB #12)

image from BHGP

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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Unsure

I didn't look too hard at gameplay settings - I just wanted to get in there and whip the Buckeyes!  I assumed the default would be kind of middle of the road - so guess that would equate to All-American based on your comments.  I will play around with it tonight and see how it impacts my experience.

Didn't know about the sliders either from another post - that could be key to making things a bit more interesting.

So far, I love it...and strongly considering buying it for myself for my Birthday which coincides with release date...How can I NOT???

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:14 PM
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default is varsity for

default is varsity for madden/ncaa so i would assume thats what it is set to, there is a rookie difficulty setting too which is even easier (might be called something else dont remember).

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June 19th, 2013 at 5:36 PM
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Freshman

Is the easiest difficulty. I've never even played it honestly. I can't play varsity anymore because I literally never get scored on and scored on every drive (I won every game of a varsity season with an average score of 100-0). To challenge myself last year, I played bama as eastern on heisman difficulty...and won. I don't know what to do anymore.

/watchoutwe'vegotabadassoverhere

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:28 PM
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Passing is a heck of a lot easier

I've played NCAA 12 and 14 and on both of them it's pretty easy to pass. The game I've played forever is NCAA 05 and that game infuriates me with how hard passing is and the incesant dropsies that every single wide receiver has no matter how many stars he has. I literally have all four of my wideouts as 5*s in that game and I get 5-10 drops every single game. Makes me furious

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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I think this game has taken a

I think this game has taken a HUGE step forward from 2013. This one, at least in terms of the demo, is much more realistic with the physics. One thing that irritates the $&@# out of me is when you have a 200 pound RB getting stuffed by a 170 pound FS/SS coming on a blitz and they truck you and you lose two yards even though you have FORWARD MOMENTUM. That continually irritated me and about 6-10 PS3 controllers.
The new Physics enhancement or whatever they call it was incredible. I think the starting RB for UM was Rawls (38??) and I was picking up an average of 4.8 YPC on my first game against osu, which I played on Heisman and won 23-14.

They made Braxton WAY TOO GOD like in this game as he connected on a lot of Hail-mary type passes always targeting Countess (which I thought was a little rediculous). Unless I'm way too biased, I didn't think osu had a complete stud that can catch anything thrown his way double/triple coverage or not.

I was HELLA impressed that linebackers could not single-handedly influence a game with one-handed picks (NCAA 2012) or extraordinary leaping ability (NCAA 2013); this alone makes it worth buying to have over 2013 [if you're not buying it soley for DENARD ON THE COVER!!!!]

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:34 PM
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I didn't have this problem at

I didn't have this problem at all. Miller had a few longer runs but I picked him off twice and ended up winning 13-6. Maybe you're not pressuring him enough? 

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June 19th, 2013 at 7:11 PM
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I sent a blitz on him from

I sent a blitz on him from both MLB/SLB and on another play FS/SS and he still evaded them with ease and threw perfect passes easily. I played on heisman and he's like a 97 anyway

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June 19th, 2013 at 12:54 PM
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I played it briefly last

I played it briefly last night, and I had mixed feelings.  I hadn't played since NCAA 12, but I didn't feel like there was any major progress (well, duh, it's EA) and there were a few things that I actually thought were worse than years before.  The graphics and colors look too cartoony now, and the animations seem even more choppy and unrealistic.  Maybe these things will be improved when the game is released, but I wasn't impressed in those areas.  The running felt more fluid and I like the hard cut.  Some new tackle animations and supposedly they added some real time physics but I'd prefer if they go all out with the physics so we don't have to see the same 10 tackle animations every time.

I can't decide if I'm going to drop the $60 bucks on this one.  I didn't last year.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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The one thing I wish I could

The one thing I wish I could do with the coverage is find some way to make the defenders read run/pass a bit faster. I've tried playing Cover 4 with my safeties showing blitz in order to replicate the defenses that Sparty has used the past few years to try and shut down Denard with little success. I mean...it is very difficult to defend the legs of someone like Braxton Miller without weakening your pass D's responsiilities, but I would like the game to let me try it with something other than blitzing on every down.

Had a lot of fun playing with Oregon and TAMU's offenses, though! The read option is MUCH improved.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:54 PM
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I agree with you 100%. I have

I agree with you 100%. I have been combating this for a couple years by bringing the safeties up, and controlling the FS on any play that isnt an obvious passing down. Gives me the ability to read the play myself and decide if I need the extra man in the box. Only issue is every now and then I will bite HARD on a playaction, and leave someone streaking down the field uncovered. 

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June 19th, 2013 at 3:57 PM
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I almost always play a pass

I almost always play a pass rusher because I find it impossible to accurately judge angle and depth as a defender when the camera is behind the QB. Playing there last night the demo compared well to the last version of this I had (201) wheres DTs were the best pass rushers in the game in this demo. I don't actually recall from UFR's, what schemes does Mattison use on mobile QBs? I know we tried the VT-style defense against Miller in 2011 where the corners had two deep zones and the safeties played a very shallow cover one.

In any case, does anyone know of any release date sales for this year's version? I think I want to pick it up, but it's hard to swallow that $60 price tag.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
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You probably can't tell this from the demo, but

do you know if you can delete and create conferences, and adjust a team's rivalries?  In last year's game, when I adjusted the B1G, moving Nebraska back to the Big12, I hated that Iowa would still play them for the annual Heroes Game.  I'd also love to be able to condense the mid-majors into two conferenes.  Small beans stuff, but I'd still like to have more control.

It sounds like they made the recruiting process less time-consuming, very happy about that.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
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Unsure

Will give it a try tonight...since it's Demo - it might be limited but interesting idea...

Would be cool to throw Rutgers and Maryland into the mix when the full version comes out to get some foreshadowing of the a$$-whippings they're gonna get.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
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Playing this, a few times I

Playing this, a few times I would adjust a formation to have the "spell hb" in. Our back up RB is #3. Which I'm guessing is Derrick Green (EA always screw up freshman numbers), but then that puts Fitz all the way to third on our depth chart. Really think they have our roster a little messed up.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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Fitz is hurt, hence not

Fitz is hurt, hence not starting

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
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Yea but NCAA doesn't

Yea but NCAA doesn't acknowledge that because these aren't real players in the game.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:56 PM
(Reply to #26) #339
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They're not real?!??!

Say it ain't so!

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
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Rawls

Yeah I was pretty surprised that Rawls is our starting HB in the demo, nothing against him, but this means Fitz's rating is below 81 . . . last year I think he was in the high 80's

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:12 PM
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Sllepy81
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so

how did you view the depth chart?

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June 19th, 2013 at 3:10 PM
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I didn't, but obviously Rawls

I didn't, but obviously Rawls is starting, then when you switch to spell HB, it puts the backup in (RB #3), so that means that Fitz is at least 3rd.

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June 19th, 2013 at 3:54 PM
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Sllepy81
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Ahh

I was trying to run Devin out of energy to see who the #2 was at qb.

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June 19th, 2013 at 4:45 PM
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They have Bellomy as the

They have Bellomy as the backup holding for extra points.

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June 19th, 2013 at 4:53 PM
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Sllepy81
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probably

means we're 3 deep, guessing Gardner, Bellomy, Morris. I'm ok with that as unless Gardner gets hurt we will only see any one else in mop up and that leaves us deeper in other spots in the game.

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June 19th, 2013 at 1:58 PM
#346
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My biggest gripe is that the

My biggest gripe is that the the Devin Gardner-esque quarterback for Michigan threw 4 interceptions in the game I played.  This clearly wasn't my fault and is proof the game is faulty as I properly and timely pushed the right doohickey on the thingamajig.  I fully expect EA sports is aware of this problem and will have these quirks worked out by the time the game is released.

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
(Reply to #33) #347
Ziff72
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Sarcasm

I like your response because I know your being sarcastic but it's not far off from a lot of peoples real feelings towards the game.   Before commenting please consider the following.

1.  If you say you haven't played the game in 5 years because EA sucks and you are going to play for 15 minutes on a demo and then say it sucks again save the time in posting.  

2. If you feel 1 portion of the game is too easy( I passed for 4 TD's it was too easy to pass) please keep in mind the skill level of the players you are using, the skill level your facing, the difficulty of your settings and your own personal skill level as a gamer then consider how hard it is to get that level perfect for everyone.   Determining if a part of the game is not realistic enough is much more nuanced than people want to believe.  

3.  Complaining about names or numbers on the players is ridiculous.  What do you want them to do?   They can't put the players names on them.  You have to identify players somehow.

4.  The demo does not include conferences and editing of players and such because it would take up too much memory.  Leave those questions for the real game.

5.  Just focus on gameplay.  I saw someone say they were mad they took out the banner touching intro.   I'm pretty sure that was a demo thing as well.  Your feedback should be focused on how the game plays and how well the plays play out.   I said in the previous thread how they added an inverted veer(Brian's favorite play) and it was structured very well.   To get the timing on a play like that has got to be difficult and they nailed it.   They even get the QB to take a couple of shuffle steps with the RB while your making the read.  I got Devin free for 45 yds but the way it played out where I had to read the block sand make the correct cuts was incredible.   This is what you should be focused on.  In the past some plays were great against any defense and some were worthless against any.   Do the screens work?  Do the draws work?  Last year the bubble screens were terrible.   It was like Borges designed the game.  Do they work against some defenses now?   Is it too hard too stop? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:02 PM
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if the Lbers cant out jump

if the Lbers cant out jump Lebron I'll be happy.

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:18 PM
(Reply to #35) #349
Ziff72
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you didn't buy the game last year

That was fixed last year.

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
#350
Sllepy81
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well

not blown away, I like the variety of tackling the madden physics bring but at the same time I had an awkward ankle grab loss of balance sack that sent braxton falling embarrassingly impossible. I wish with the coordinator came it would zoom more or some after the line of scrimmage is passed for offense. Played one game on varsity to get a feel, won 28-7. threw 10-11 3tds, ran for 150. I will give it a go on all American tonight, work my way up.

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June 19th, 2013 at 10:05 PM
(Reply to #39) #351
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Varsity? Heisman all the way!

Varsity? Heisman all the way!

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June 19th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
#352
Sllepy81
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on a side note

make sure you buy it from best buy, they give you a big ten pack for ultimate teams. also if you want madden buy the anniversary edition from amazon($99) you get the NFL Sunday ticket free for mobile, some deal otherwise. read the details, I will get the mobile and use a pc and plug it into my tv. roughly paying 39.99 for Sunday ticket with this deal and madden for $60. worth it to me.

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June 19th, 2013 at 3:12 PM
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To get the B1G Pack from Best

To get the B1G Pack from Best Buy I think you have to pre-order it too. Not just purchase from there.

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June 19th, 2013 at 3:52 PM
(Reply to #44) #354
Sllepy81
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yeah

meant to say that and the madden deal is for the first 1000 pre orders per system.

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June 19th, 2013 at 5:40 PM
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The Ask the Coach feature

The Ask the Coach feature makes you feel like you're in Borges' head?  So did the game call the I-Form Iso with undersized RB and terrible interior line play?

Still not over it....

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June 20th, 2013 at 1:02 AM
#356
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UM: 42 OSU: 0

Maybe varsity was a little too easy.

Gardner: 8/8 118 yards 2 TD's and 45 yards rushing

Miller: 4/7 34 yards and 22 yards rushing

The best part of the game was the last play where freshman running back #3 from virginia (Green) scooted 77 yards in clean up time. It just got me excited I guess.

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June 20th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
#357
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Somewhat amusing Johnny Manziel / NCAA 14 link

SI Link: here

The author seems to think Johnny Football looks like Bill Paxson... There is a very slight resemblance, but the point is he looks nothing like the real Johnny Manziel.

 

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June 21st, 2013 at 10:01 AM
#358
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Played last night

Not impressed. The physics are improved, but it still is the same game. Just brighter colors now. As usual, with 20 seconds before halftime, I was able to just run Shotgun Trio Verticals and complete two 50 yard bombs for a TD before time expired.  The vertical passing game is super easy. Darboh had 4 receptions for 160 yards and 2 TDs in 3 quarters for me. I quit after that. 

There was one thing that really irked me. A few times, with a wide open gaping hole, Rawls would duck and slow down for no apparent reason and end up getting tackled for a 3-4 yard gain by a DE that had been sealed off by my RT. Should have been 15-20 yard runs. Pretty lame.

If this game cost $25-30, it would be worth purchasing. At $60, it's a waste of money. I'll wait for the price drop on Amazon. 

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