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June 5th, 2012 at 4:34 PM
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NCAA 13 Team Ratings are out

Michigan:

Offense - 97
Defense - 94
Special Teams - 91
Prestige - 6

http://forums.traditionsportsonline.com/threads/ncaa-13-team-ratings.78725/

Also, the demo for 360 came out today and will be out tomorrow for PS3.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | First thing I see is Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
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First thing I see is Michigan D > Alabama D. Mattison uber alles.

EDIT: Also BS on 99 for LSU offense.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:46 PM | Tulsa? (Score:2)
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91 Offense & 89 Defense?

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Dual QB Statistical Analysis

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:30 PM | I don't think LSU's 99 (Score:5 Funny)
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I don't think LSU's 99 offense is BS. Didn't you hear what they did to Tiger Stadium after the National Championship?

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June 6th, 2012 at 6:23 PM | First thing I see is that 97 (Score:1)
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First thing I see is that 97 is our overall, not offense.  It clearly says in the post "Overall - Offense - Defense - Prestige" yet OP added special teams instead of overall...

 

Also, our defense is rated lower than Alabama's and LSU isn't rated with a 99 offense.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:40 PM | I have glanced through their (Score:2)
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I have glanced through their site, but it doesn't seem like much has changed from 12. Am I wrong on this? I'm not going to buy the game unless they have some pretty hefty new features.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | They've added one new (Score:5 Normal)
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They've added one new spectator. Besides that the game is unchanged.

I poop excellence
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | The game has a few new (Score:3 Normal)
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The game has a few new features/updates/improvements. Of course that would defy the logic that no competition makes them put out crap every year without worrying about it.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | I'm not going to buy the game (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm not going to buy the game unless they have some pretty hefty new features.

Isn't that what everyone says, every year?

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:57 PM | I don't know what everyone (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't know what everyone else says. In the past I've purchased it for major changes to the team (RR being hired) or major changes in the game (custom playbooks). I don't really see any changes that would affect my game play, which is why I'm asking.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | Rule of thumb I have is to (Score:1)
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Rule of thumb I have is to buy it every other year.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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June 5th, 2012 at 7:43 PM | Its like breathing, I just (Score:3 Normal)
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Its like breathing, I just buy it without thinking of it, without telling myself to do it, it just happens. 

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:06 PM | Just a few bug fixes and new (Score:2 Normal)
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Just a few bug fixes and new rosters, as usual. I know I wont be buying it.

COYS and lets go Detroit FC!

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:42 PM | I'm gonna be honest, us (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm gonna be honest, us having a better D than Sparty doesnt make a lot of sense to me this year especially, w our question marks up front.  

MUAHAHAHAHA!  MUAHAHAHA!

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:53 PM | More importantly... Our d (Score:5 Normal)
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More importantly... Our d higher than Alabama's

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:42 PM | Calm down (Score:4 Normal)
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A prestige rating of 6 is the maximum rating.

5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:15 PM | How intuitive of them. (Score:3 Normal)
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How intuitive of them.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | Other relevant rankings: (Score:4 Normal)
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Form will be: name, offense, defense, special teams, prestige

Alabama: 97, 92, 95, 6
Notre Dame: 97, 94, 95, 6
Michigan St.: 93, 89, 89, 4
Ohio: 95, 89, 95, 6

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:47 PM | Bama, State, And ohio (Score:5 Normal)
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all need their o and d ratings switched.  ND needs 10 subtracted from all their ratings.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:48 PM | ?? (Score:5 Normal)
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So they have MSU's offense (new QB, new WR's, etc) higher rated than their defense??  That would make me want to buy this game for it's "accuracy"

Skimmed through the ratings and it looks like defenses are lower rated across the board...I think I only saw one team with a defense rating above 95 (USC with a 99), while there were many many teams with offenses above 95.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:49 PM | So (Score:5 Normal)
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So ND is better than Bama?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's all

Practice makes perfect. Unless you're the Buckeyes. Then you have to cheat.

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June 5th, 2012 at 10:47 PM | Note (Score:1)
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Note: You guys do know that EA doesn't create the overall rankings...right?

They're based on the player ratings and more emphasis is put on starters.

A team with 11 starters at 90...and a bunch of reserves at 60 could have a better overall rating than a team with 11 starters at 85 and a bench full of 80s. The latter is the better unit, but the game may not read it like that (that may be a dramatic example, but it IS weighted).

Also, EA traditionally doesn't "downgrade" players...so if they hyped a kid as a sophomore and he didn't play well, he'll still be good his junior and senior year.

I wouldn't be shocked to see someone like JT Floyd as like a 92 in the game. No disrespect to JT, but that's a big stretch. Someone like Craig Roh, who's started since his freshman year is also likely to be overrated in the game.

 

Every year I adjust the ratings and make them as realistic as I possibily can compared to other players. I wait until the names come out and then I adjust the top 50 players at each position, and then do Michigan based off that. I also use two pre-season magazines to help, so it's not biased.

The biggest reason I adjust is to boost the freshman and redshirt freshman. With the way you can recruit in the game, guys like Keith Heitzman and Chris Bryant will NEVER see the field in 4 years...in fact, they often get cut. You can make them a respectable rating in the high 70s as redshirt freshman and they eventually become starters or role players as upperclassmen.

 

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | And so begins the 14th (Score:5 Normal)
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And so begins the 14th straight year of MSU fans bitching about how they got screwed on their ratings.

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June 5th, 2012 at 4:59 PM | Oregon is not a 6* (Score:2 Normal)
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Oregon is not a 6*

Michigan FB, Michigan BB, Michigan HKY, 49ers, SF Giants, Sac Kings, Red Wings

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Agree (Score:3 Normal)
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There are 14 schools with a 6 rating. There should only be 10 so i think these 4 should be 5's: Oregon, Clemson, Boise St., and Ohio. Picking a 4th was tough, so I made it easy.



Other 6's:

Bama

Auburn

Florida

LSU

Miami

ND

Oklahoma

Texas

USC

Us

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Remove Miami IMO (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think that Miami deserves to be a 6 right now, or maybe ND doesn't, but I think OSU does.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | Boise (Score:4 Normal)
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Not sure Boise deserves even a 5.

5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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June 5th, 2012 at 6:37 PM | ohio 5, Miami 4 (Score:-1 Overrated)
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ohio probably should be a five simply because we will never here the end of it if they are not. I feel like Miami should be a five. There previous eight seasons or so have been only mediocre in a relatively weak acc.

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June 5th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | correction ohio 6, Miami 5 (Score:3 Normal)
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correction ohio 6, Miami 5

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June 5th, 2012 at 6:42 PM | Clemson (Score:3 Normal)
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has one season where they ALMOST aren't a complete disappointment and they jump 2 stars to a 6 star team?

 

Sense this does not make.

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June 5th, 2012 at 10:57 PM | Auburn and miami...ehhhh (Score:4 Normal)
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Auburn and miami...ehhhh

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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June 6th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | Stars only matter for recruiting (Score:2)
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The only time when stars are relevant is recruiting in Dynasty mode.  There are 14 6* schools, and I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon is one of the 14 biggest recruiting draws for high school kids right now.

The only 6* ratings I would quibble with are Boise State (even with their success, they still can't recruit with the big boys) and Miami (not a recruiting powerhouse recently).

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June 5th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | Come on they were shut out by (Score:1)
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Come on they were shut out by an SEC defense. That is very good! Ussually because of the SEC speed an offense has negative points at the end of a game.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Clearly EA wasn't dissauded (Score:3 Normal)
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Clearly EA wasn't dissauded by the Orange Bowl because Clemson still got a 97, 96, 91. And I don't know what compelled them to put Utah at 95, 92 ,91

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:56 PM | West Virginia just scored (Score:5 Normal)
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West Virginia just scored again.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:16 PM | Those ratings are an absolute (Score:2 Normal)
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Those ratings are an absolute joke.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:16 PM | Top teams based on this (Score:3 Normal)
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If you were to make a top 25 based on these scores, weighting the offense, defense, and special teams scores equally, you'd get this:



1 Wisconsin
2 Texas
3 USC
4 LSU
5 Oregon
6 Notre Dame
7 Oklahoma
8 Alabama
9 Clemson
10 Florida St.
11 Michigan
12 Virginia Tech
13 Ohio St.
14 Oklahoma St.
15 South Carolina
16 Utah
17 Arkansas
18 Georgia
19 TCU
20 Auburn
21 Stanford
22 Texas Am
23 Michigan St.
24 Washington
25 Nebraska

Yeah.... that top 25 seems pretty bad to me.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Shocker:  The ND and Michigan (Score:3 Normal)
Mr. Rager
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Shocker:  The ND and Michigan fan bases are huge and spend tons of money.  Texas is the same deal.  No wonder why the teams are good in this game.  They got to be able to sell the product, man...

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | Wisky (Score:3 Normal)
Drill
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Wisconsin being the #1 overall team was the most surprising to me.

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June 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM | Not actually too different (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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From how the polls actually work...

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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June 6th, 2012 at 12:10 PM | Not that bad (Score:2)
whitedawg
Joined: 07/08/2008
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It certainly doesn't track the consensus polls, but it's not too silly (other than Notre Dame at #6, obviously).  And remember, these are based only on video game player ratings - they overrate recruiting hype (as opposed to performance, which leads them to overrate disappointing 4* and 5* recruits - e.g. Notre Dame) and don't take into account things like coaching acumen and experience.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:26 PM | Honestly the only (Score:5 Normal)
ryebreadboy
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Honestly the only justification I can see for this is that they want no one to be less than 80. They need a better scale if everyone is in the 90s. If someone's offense is a 45, well, they should play better. If I can autoplay a game against a terrible team and have it not be a blowout, there's something wrong there.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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June 5th, 2012 at 7:36 PM | Agreed.  If I autoplay a (Score:1 Normal)
Urban Warfare
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Agreed.  If I autoplay a B1G's first week against a 1-AA team, it shouldn't even be close. 

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June 5th, 2012 at 11:59 PM | I see what you did there. (Score:3 Normal)
MGoDC
Joined: 03/21/2010
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I see what you did there.

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June 6th, 2012 at 6:16 PM | :( (Score:1)
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:(

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:36 PM | How, and I mean HOW (Score:2)
Bryan
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Is Oregon's defense higher rated than it's offense? 

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:36 PM | More interested (Score:1)
D-Rob4Prez
Joined: 02/21/2012
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In Denard's speed. First ever over 100? Assume he will have highest ever speed rating for a QB. Vick, Roberson, White, Crouch and Bollinger have to be up there.

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:39 PM | I went out and bought NCAA (Score:2)
The Shredder
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I went out and bought NCAA 2006 for $3. Everyone should do the same. 

 

http://midnightmaize.blogspot.com/

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June 5th, 2012 at 5:47 PM | Why the hell didn't you (Score:3 Normal)
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Why the hell didn't you already have it?

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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June 5th, 2012 at 6:35 PM | I had it loaded on my PS2 (Score:2)
The Shredder
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I had it loaded on my PS2 HDD. I want a copy I can take to work.

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Latest MM Post(3-22-13) DENARD ROBINSON SIGNED MY SONIC!

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June 5th, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Where the hell do you work (Score:5 Normal)
rockediny
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Where the hell do you work and are they hiring?

 

"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK

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