NCAA 11 Michigan Player Ratings
EA Sports has updated their Teambuilder website which means they have released the base rosters for NCAA 11. Also you can check out a screenshot of Michigan Stadium with the renovations if you go to the stadium selection screen when making a team. To see the Michigan player ratings when creating a team go to roster then select template Michigan.
Check it out at easports.com/teambuilder
Some Notable Ratings:
Tate: 86 OVR, 85 SPD, 88 THP, 85 THA, 32 Elusiveness (WTF?)
Denard: 81 OVR, 92 SPD, 90 THP, 77 THA
Devin Gardner: 76 OVR, 90 SPD, 94 THP, 76 THA
There is a 4th QB listed #14 and Freshman, I assume its Conelius Jones, 66 OVR
Mike Shaw/VIncent Smith: 85 OVR
Martavious Odoms: 85 OVR
Roundtree: 86 OVR
Stonum: 84 OVR
Hemingway: 85 OVR
David Molk: 96 OVR!
Ryan Van Bergen: 86
Craig Roh: 91 OVR! (listed as a DE)
Mike Martin: 90 OVR
Renaldo Sagesse: 87 (a bit high?) OVR
Big Will: 85 OVR
Obi Ezeh: 81 OVR (down from 88 last year)
Mouton: 81 OVR (down from last year as well)
JT Turner: 78 OVR
Woolfolk: 84 OVR
JT Floyd: 81 OVR
Freshman CB #4 (has same measureables as Demar Dorsey, I guess they didn't take him out of the game): 74 OVR, 96 SPD
Cullen Christian (CB #24 I assume): 75 OVR
Vlad Emilien: 84 OVR
Will Hagerup: 81 OVR
No sign of Cam Gordon anywhere.
It seems EA has our safties as Vlad, Mike Williams, Thomas Gordon, Jared Van Slyke (#31), Jordan Kovacs (80 OVR), and Teric Jones
Overall, I think the ratings are pretty fair. Some players are probably overrated (Sagesse, Emilien) and some are just off (Tate 32 elusiveness?). I am disappointed that Cam Gordon isn't in the game, I'll have to edit him in once I get it.
I can't take EA Sports seriously until Denard has the 99 speed rating he deserves.
92? I think that's what he had last year. Bullshit.
I think he was high 80s-like 88 or 89. I think Pryor or Griffin was the fastest with a 91 or 92.
Dilithium cannot be quantified.
any qb over 94 or so completely breaks the game, the 92 is in favour of balance
my question is: why have a 99 rating if you are never going to actually rate anyone it. Denard is probably one of the fastest players in the history of the game and he didn't even break the 95 mark.
a CB, safety, or WR at 99 rating doesn't have quite the same impact on the gameplay that a 99 speed QB does.
I agree; it sucks, but it's not always about realism. Remember: one of the goals of an annual sports game developer is to make the game fun for those playing it, thereby encouraging future purchases. Those that play against a user that cheeses ("innovative use of game mechanics") the game with a broken player are less likely to purchase the game in the future.
what could be more fun than denard scoring 6 TDs in a game all on QB draws?
Denard is probably one of the fastest players in the history of the game and he didn't even break the 95 mark.
Denard is fast. Let's leave it at that. There have been plenty of state champion sprinters to play college football. Let's not act like Denard is changing the whole landscape of college football.
Let's not act like Denard is changing the whole landscape of college football.
At least not yet he's not.
I'm curious what the other players in CFB that run a 4.3 40 got as their speed rating. Bet it's more than 92...
Demps at UF recently ran a 9.96 in the 100m, USC has someone who ran a 10.17 not that long ago, but I can't remember his name.
got the Generic White Guy elusiveness rating. Fortunately, he scored a 93 in "grittiness" and 91 in "moxie."
That's the 2nd straight year he's been 32 elusiveness. They must have missed the Notre Dame game...
Where did you get the picture of the stadium?
I took a screen shot on my computer of EA's generated version. You can see it on the teambuilder website
double post, sorry
That or they set ND's agility to zero...
What was his score for 'upside'?
I heard they considered giving Denard a 91 in "moxie" as well, but instead just lumped it all into his 97 "swag" rating.
his dred rating right at a 99....
Totally backs up the "Next Year" theory...it's tough to imagine that most of these guys won't be high eighties/nineties next year.
I can't wait until ncaa 2012
You can't really think that way using EA's ratings. It is there job to sell games, remember? You won't sell too many games to Michigan fans if their secondary and LB corp is made up of a bunch of 70's.
I mean, according to EA's rankings last year, Brandon Smith would be like a 94 rated safety right now. And Mike Shaw would still be a WR.
Things off the top of my head:
Denard: If I am not mistaken, T. Pryor is also a 92 speed. If Denard is the same speed as Pryor, I will eat my hat. Also, the difference b/w him and TForce is not 5 Overall (to say he is right between Tate and Devin at this point is not correct).
Molk: I thought they scaled back the ratings this year. Not to say he's not worth it, but to say he's ~5 Overall better than our next player? Seems a little much.
Roh: 91 as a true sophomore - basically guaranteeing he's going to be a top 10 pick in the NFL draft if you import his class to Madden.
Vlad et al: Vlad is the same rank as TWolf even though Vlad has never seen a down? Kovacs being rated higher than JT Turner seems a little questionable.
Good to see they got Ezeh and Mouton right - at least our LBs won't be overrated in the game this year. (I assume for Mouton they just cranked his awareness rating down - who knows what they did to tweek Ezeh).
Seems funny how EA has essentially thrown Ezeh and Mouton together as equals, like much of the MGoCommunity.
As with many on this site, I predict Mouton to have a break-out senior year. I hope Ezeh follows suit.
He should have better accuracy than throwing power in real life, and those should probably at least be flipped, and the elusiveness should be higher, with the speed maybe a bit lower (I don't think his straight line speed is that high, maybe in the 70s somewhere).
Other than that it doesn't seem too bad (a little more Denard speed would be nice though) and pretty fair, maybe a little generous in some parts (our DBs). It's hard to tell with many players being new or less experienced.
Sagesse at 87 sounds about right to me.
Also, this isn't OT.
I wanted to say that but I always come off sounding like a douche when I do. +1 for sounding so pleasant when you said it.
Notice that Denard's acceleration is 96. If you've been following this game at all, and the locomotion engine, you will know that acceleration is as important as speed. 92 is faster than most players in the demo, and 96 ACC is absurd.
Exactly. As they've been saying, speed isn't the most important stat anymore. If you've played the demo, you know that acceleration and agility are probably more important. 96 is just crazy.
Yeah when I read the thread, I was wondering what his acceleration would be. With 96 Acceleration, I will be starting Denard for sure. He will tear defenses up for years to come in the zone read. FWIW, I crushed OSU in the demo, and it felt glorious.
I understand that's crazy fast for a QB in the game, but still, he's one of the fastest players at any position, and his speed rating should be at least 95, if not 99. I think all of the other ratings are pretty fair. It's going to suck playing NCAA without being BG on defense....guess I'll just trade for him in Madden.
I think the problem is that giving a quarterback 99 speed turns the game into NFL Blitz, where quarterbacks could run circles (literally) around the defense before deciding to make a decisive move upfield.
I'm not as concerned with the numbers as I am with performance. Last year Denard got caught from behind by linemen and linebackers. I hear the new importance of the accerleration stat should make up for this . . .
While it's obvious you know this, it should be noted for the general mgopublic that this year's game emphasizes acceleration and agility/elusiveness more than it does speed.
EDIT: I'm a dummy and didn't see the posts that have all ready pointed this out below.
sort of super players, in effect?
The one fastest player in the game gets 99 SPD.
The one WR with the best hands will catch EVERYTHING.
The one QB with the strongest arm gets a 99 THW Strength.
And then every other player is rated normally as they should be? I suppose I could get behind this, but it might make the whole game very unbalanced in online play. Maybe only for a short time after special plays? Like they used to do in NBA games. "He's on fire!"
I'm a little confused as to why Vincent Smith has a higher speed rating than Mike Shaw. The former is a master of shiftiness, but Shaw is probably the 2nd or 3rd fastest guy on the team.
I guess those Ohio test Nazis got a hold of EA too.
More issues I have with the ratings:
Vlad (84), Sagesse (87), and Campbell (85) are all overrated for some reason. To say they are approximately as effective at their position as:
Tate (86), Any WR (Roundtree, Stonum, Odoms), RVB (86), and TWolf (84)
Is absurd.
Also to say those three guys are ranked much higher than Denard furthers the joke.
Granted, this might be a consequence of the "we need to sell this game to Michigan fans" mentality - it's still off.
I'd rather have 2009 Sagesse on the field than 2009 Denard Robinson on the field.
EA doesn't necessarily take spring football and "practice buzz" into account. Denard Robinson sucked as a quarterback in 2009. There's no getting around it.
Yes, but 6 overall points higher than him? Also..
- Would you take 2009 Sagesse over 2009 Forcier?
- Are Vlad and TWolf equal? Especially when you factor in Vlad is younger and thus has more "room to grow" in EA's game?
- How is Sagesse higher than RVB?
- How is Will Campbell higher than TWolf?
I mean, yeah, you can answer the Denard question by saying "it's because of on the field 2009, and spring ball doesn't matter". But how do you answer all the remaining questions?
Clearly EA has to cover 120 teams, and they are going to make mistakes. So I'm not going to hate on them for that. Plus, we can edit the rosters ourselves, so in the end - it's mitigated.
I think you're underestimating how much Denard sucked at QB last year. He was atrocious. He threw a ton of interceptions and had a completion percentage roughly equal to Calvin Magee's waist size.
If I wanted to argue the others, I would have. You raise good questions. But the Denard/Sagesse thing is understandable.
Comparing Denard's completion percentage to Magee's waist size is hilarious. I kinda wish it was closer to Charlie's waist size....
I'm not sure Magee is actually any smaller.
Lets just upgrade the whole shebang and go with Marky M.
Magee has lost some weight since he got to Michigan. He's lookin' S-E-X-X-Y.
Also, how many of us were salivating to see Denard's spring performance/ratings at the end of the season? Not many. That INT at the end of the Iowa game made me sick to my stomach. I'm sure EA finished with the ratings before spring ball. Probably a reason why Cam Gordon isn't in the default rosters.
Denard's speed issue is an easy fix as is everyone else's rankings. I usually just adjust the rankings and save over my named rosters.
unless you can show me how to set the speed to 'ludicrous'.
Could Cam be #84? His old number? I haven't looked at them yet.
Make Brendan Gibbons a 99 tackler. RAWK MUSIC