I hope GRIII isn't a one and done
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I hope GRIII isn't a one and done
No kidding!! I don't like such a good thing being a big downer!! I hope we can keep him for 2 years at least.
I don't think he will be gone after this year. He's a good player, don't get me wrong, but I don't think he's a one and done. GRIII and McGary will be great players in their time, but I think they spend a few years at Michigan. There's nothing wrong with that! I'd rather have a great team to cheer for in the coming years, as opposed to hoping these one and dones pan out and deliver in their one and only year in college.
Well his dad was much better than him and stayed for 4 years.. so if he is anything like his dad..
.... and his dad ended up being the number 1 overall pick. He has plenty of reasons not to leave.
Both because both are in different eras. You are punished if you stay for 4 years, but you can get drafted in lottery after SR year(however it's rare nowadays).
If GRIII is projected to go to the lottery, he'd be crazy not to declare for the draft where a year an change a lot and potential injury.
Beilein will tell GRIII the same thing. If a player is a sure lottery pick, he should go. If he is a sure first round pick, he should probably go. Everyone else should stay.
It might seem like it sucks, but this is a great "problem" to have. It means a lot of great talent is playing in Ann Arbor. This bodes extremely well for the program.
His dad didn't stay four years. He was at Purdue three years, and only played two of them (he was academically ineligible the first year).
I want to neg you, because that's all you say, but I keep finding myself giving you +1.
Hmm... I love me some GRIII but I don't see him going 15. He's been good, but hasn't been truly dominant yet. I'd be surprised if we lost 3 players to the draft this off season. I'm thinking 2 max...or hoping I suppose.
He's a 1st round talent but currently not playing at that level, and B1G play will knock that down a little further. I'd say he ends up rated a mid second rounder.
He's been good but like Brian has noted, he's currently the 4th or 5th most dominating player in our starting 5. I could see him being #15 in another year or two
Brian's opinion has little to do with draft stock. NBA is closer to MLB as they evaluate more so on tools/potential than production.
Brian's opinion has little to do with draft stock?
To the folks above me - the NBA draft is based ENTIRELY on potential, although once in a while talents like Derrick Williams of Zona plays their way to the #2 spot.
Think if the NFL draft was entirely based around digging up Jason Pierre-Pauls.
Case in point - Trey and TJ have stayed and improved by leaps and bounds from last year. But they are pegged still as low first rounders (or high 2nd round). Trey is projected to be Tony Parker's backup, while Junior (if he goes to Washington) will have to fight his way to start alongside Johnny Wall.
And some guys play their way into their proper position, like Dwyane Wade.
I could see Burke having a Wade-like postseason.
Another "play-into-lottery" guy, Kemba Walker
Once we play some real competition our freshmen will probably not ay as well and their draft stock will fall. I know GR is talented but he doesn't seem like the 15th best player in the country, not for another year or two at least...
No way would Burke not go first among the Michigan guys. And I bet you that McGary, though very raw, would go pretty high.
Dion Waiters from Syracuse was a 6th man and Cleveland selected him 4th this past summer.
GRIII is good and has the frame/upside to be a great NBA player, but as of now I havent seen enough of him to be a lottery pick. The B1G season will tell everyone how good he is and what he needs to improve.
GRIII could definitely do more if asked of him but it's not really necessary with burke, thjr, and stauskas shooting they was he is. He is also being asked to play the 4 when he would certainly project to the 3 in the nba...
If Hardaway projects to the first round he should go right away. Too much chance to slide if he stays, especially with Burke gone.
Lottery is usually based on potential over production. I could see GRIII going pretty high based on his measurables and the fact that he hasn't quite tapped into that potential yet. Although I also believe he could improve his stock with another year.
It's not about what you've done yet. It's about what you could potentially be. As great as Stauskas has played, his ceiling is not nearly as high as GRIII, who has an NBA body and athleticism. An NBA team might be willing to take that in the lottery and develop the rest of the skills as time goes on.
went 11th overall. Stauskas is bigger, longer, has better handles and is more athletic. I'm not saying he is as good as a senior JJ Redick but he has more potential. Are we sure Stauskas isn't a lottery pick right now?
Robinson at #15 isn't suprising to me. His impact on this team is not talked about nearly enough. He shoots the ball better than Hardway and has more athleticism. I don't think he will leave yet because he doesn't much have much responsiblity on this team yet, but I bet he will show enough to be a top 10 pick next year if both Burke and Hardway decide to leave.
Seriously, this is the 4th thread referencing NBADraft.net in the last 2 weeks. Can we at least wait until March to start worrying about their weekly mock drafts?
I haven't heard too much about him, but I think he could definitely have some draft potential with his length and his shooting. Yeah his D isn't great but its also the NBA.
Not athletic enough to be considered at this point. The rest of his game needs to catch up to his shooting.
Please God no. The NCAA & NBA need to sack up and make it 3 years of college play minimum to go to the NBA.
I hate the NBA. Keep away from my team.
If they do it, they have to make it a MLB rule where they can declare straight from HS or stay for 3 yrs
this. The fact that they have to go to college at all is BS.
I agree except it should be 2 years, not three.
Hmmm...maybe because I grew up in LA, but I much prefer NBA to NCAA. The only time I have any interest in college basketball is March Madness, which is admittedly amazing.
Unfortunately, I was at UM during the dark ages of our program, and I never got into it. Having said that, I wish UM all the best and hope to god the NCAA does not institute a bogus "stay in school" rule. If you are over 18, use your talents to make some money and build your career.
You should be able to go to the NBA out of high school, but if you go to college you have to stay at least two years
will be a star in the NBA, guys like him don't grow on trees, he's a leader, great shooter, great dribbler, great court awareness, can cross-over dribble like no other.
He's an Isah Thomas or Chris Paul in the making, if teams let him fall past the top ten picks, then they are idiots. Especially if they let the Spurs get him, yikes!
Is that you?!?!?
Burke would be a steal at #25. I think he'll go much higher.
As for GR3; he just doesn't get the ball enough with this team to really showcase what he can do. I think he stays and really blows it up next year; especially with another year to get stronger and more skilled. With Trey and quite possibly THJ gone he'll get a lot more looks.
I agree. I see Burke going in the top 10 and maybe even top 5. Top point guards are hard to find and Burke is starting to look like a potential elite one. Hardaway, while a good player does not have the look of an NBA star so he will likely fall into the 2nd round even with the improvements we've seen in his game. Robinson is an unknown at this time and will likely stay another year to develop his game given his limited role so far. If he did declare after one year, somebody would roll the dice and grab him in the first round but if he thinks he has lottery potential then staying another year to showcase improved skills would likely net him the most $ which seems to be the goal these days.
I think if it came down to it it'd be really smart for GRIII to stay. Assuming Hardaway and Burke leave, GRIII gets to really showcase his skills in the offense, instead of just hitting corner threes and racking up rebounds.
Don't really understand the people who say, "Oh, GRIII can't go that high because he isn't producing as much as other players." Ummmm when the fuck did that ever matter? It's about potential and GRIII has all of the potential in the world and already has that NBA body.
He has potential certainly, but I don't see how he is a borderline lottery pick at this point. First off, as far as an NBA body, he certainly has the bulk, but at 6'6", he is on the lower end of the height spectrum for small forwards. He's an athelete for sure, but I'm not sure he is top 1%, which might justify being a lottery pick.
His contributions to the team are really valuable, but because Beilein is not asking it of him yet, we haven't seen him iso or dominate the ball and create his own offense. I have high hopes that he could grow into that next year, but we haven't seen him do it yet. And I am surprised that experts think he is worthy of such a high draft pick without seeing it yet, either.
I would trade 3 of our starters leaving after this year for a Final 4 run/National Championship
GRlll will be back, book it.
He is unbelievable at the college level but IMO Burke still is short for the nba, hardaway is a good 2 guard who can play at a nba level but I don't think he is elite. I am surprised they have grIII that early, must be on potential
They said that about Chris Paul too. The projectors were dead on that one. Burke has done it in High School. Dominating college after a year. Pretty sure he can figure out the NBA. He works very hard in the off-season to get better. He's humble and always wanting to be better. Those last two are not often found in the majority of today's NBA players.
to be successful at the next level. He will have to pick up his defense as do 99% of college players. I would happy if the Pistons picked him up.
Would be cool, but the Pistons already have Brandon Knight as "their guy"
People need to get it through there heads that Burke is not to short. He is the same height as CP3 with longer arms, he has a 6'5-6'6 wing span with ELITE quickness. Defensively he has stepped up so so much and is showing the same things Paul has. His passing is great but still not as good as CP3 and I think he's an even better shooter than Paul . He has the work ethich and the intangibles to be just as good and I'm sure he will be.
Tim will be pretty good in the NBA I think too, he won't have to dribble as much in the NBA the only reason he has to now is because of the offense coach B runs. His athleticism and speed are great and he does everything.. rebounds, passes, defense. Time problem is keeping his mind clear and ready.. he seems to get down on himself , well last year at least .
so they can team up with Donnal, Irvin, and Walton next season. Now wouldn't that be something?
I realize that your post is mostly in jest...but I actually think we need one of them to go pro to accomodate all of the incoming freshman, assuming jordan morgan stays for a 5th year.
Since Hatch was moved to the 2014 recruiting class we have room for everyone. No one has to go pro.
Robinson actually has been a very productive player in my opinoin and has showcased a lot of talent and skill to go along side his potential and NBA body. The reason he isn't putting up 15+ points a game is because coaches never draw up a play for him to score the ball. As people have mentioned, he is scoring 11ppg with hustle points such as running the break, grabbing offensive rebounds, hitting open threes. The team is loaded and Hardway and Burke know the offense so they are the first option. Stauskas is a natural in the Beilein offense so he fits in easily. As the year progesses Glen and Mitch will become much more involved in the offense. More plays will be drawn for them to be the first option and he will show why he is being projected to be 15th overall in the draft if not higher.