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NBA Draft Open Thread (Not OT - Yay!)
I'm kind of not so secretly hoping for a Michigan double dip draft for the Pistons. Both guys probably won't fall to those spots though.
I feel like all of the talk about Trey slipping to 14 or whatever is just a bunch of smoke from some team (maybe even the Pistons) hoping to poison the well on him a little bit so he falls a few extra spots.
Burke drafted by pelicans
THJ drafted by Jazz
I made a bet with my friend about Trey's draft spot at about the midpoint of the season. We set the over/under at 7 and I took the over (meaning his pick will be worse than 7).
It was only 50 bucks, so this is a bet I'd happily lose. That said, the Pistons taking him at 8 would be a win/win for me (and make the loss easier on my buddy since he's a Pistons fan too).
In a sane and rational world there is no way he falls to 8, but the NBA operates on an entirely different plane of existence.
There is no way the Pelicans should pass up on him. He would be perfect to run pick and rolls with Brow for the next 15 years, and could revitalize Eric Gordon's career.
The Kings have been parading out a myriad of point guard-like substances for the past few seasons with no real point guard. If they want DeMarcus Cousins to realize his ridiculous potential they need someone who can get him the ball in his spots.
I'm banking on both of those teams continuing to be ridiculously stupid though.
What time does the draft start??
7:30 ET so most likely first pick come out around 7:35-7:40.
Thank you. I should make it in time to see Trey go to Orlando!
I think Mgrowold had said it in the earlier thread, but is Cleveland seriously considering Alex Len with the 1st pick?? They need a wing like Porter, or a more athletic rim protector in Noel (assuming he'll be healthy enough).
Hopefully a real Detroit sports hero we can be proud of
If Burke wearing #3 means Rodney Stuckey is outta here then YES PLEASE
Exactly. Getting Stuckey out is a bigger priority to me as well. A double-win.
Fake. Shoulders are too wide!!
Jalen Rose draft suit sighting.
I wish this were OT.
I'm really happy for Trey and Tim, they are going to accopmplish what they have been working for.
Sure, they could have stayed.
But it's been OT for longer than this blog has been around because the players weren't good enough to make it on-topic. I'd choose this over that.
Burke at #8...then trade their two 2nd round picks to get into the bottom of the First Round to get Tim Hardaway, Jr. BOOM! HOMERED!
Good luck Trey and THJr I know you will do well.
Burke to New Orleans and Hardaway Jr. to Indiana is what I am hoping for. The Pelicans need a PG that isn't Vasquez or Rivers and the Pacers need a SG to go along with Lance Stephenson. Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon would allow Burke to be the third scorer and when worst comes to worst he can just throw it up to Davis. The Pacers would provide Hardaway some solid minutes off the bench on championship contender.
BOO!!! David Stern BOOOO!!!!
What a send-off for Stern. lol
is funny. Well deserved too
Stern is in full Vince McMahon mode tonight. The commish is going out with a bang!
Gary Bettman dreams of getting a response that kind.
Is there any chance that Bettman takes over for Stern?
Going for front court depth is an unrealistic option here? Supposing all the players we are targeting are gone, and assuming say, Zeller for example is sitting there (also assuming Zeller is a big you'd draft if you needed a big), would it be a sin to take Zeller?
Anthony Bennett 1st overall?!? Interesting...
LOL WUT? We are in for a helluva draft, boys.
I like it.
Biggest draft shocker of all time?
Here is last year's boofest - it is uncanny how similar it was to what just happened, right down to the wording of the speech to a certain extent. It's almost too bad, this could be an interesting ritual....
Oh, and did anyone see Anthony Bennett coming? Did Anthony Bennett see that coming?
Wow. Did not see that coming.
sooooo that happened.....
So that's what watching millions of dollars disappear from your future bank account looks like...
Cleveland just blew everyone's mind
this gif always deserves an upvote
Not a bad pick. Trade or not.
It's really not that bad. No safe bets high in this draft. I would have gone with Porter maybe or McLemore but I'm not sure about Noel.
Noel could fall quite a ways here.
Dan Gilbert is my hero LoL Anybody that insane is cool with me
Never saw that coming. Almost dumbfounded. But he will be a solid player IMO
This is like watching Susan Lucci at the Daytime Emmys.
As bad as I can feel for a guy who will be a multi-millionaire in a few minutes.
That's the class of the Michigan program
AAAAAND Chad Ford is right on the money as usual.
Oladipo. Smart pick.
So how quickly does Noel face become a thing?
There should be a picture in picture with him because his salty face is unreal.
I'd like him a hell of a lot better if he were three inches taller. He's going to have to become a lot more skilled to be an impact player in the NBA, I think. He's not going to be that much more athletic than a lot of anymore. And what position does he play? He doesn't handle the ball like a two, and he's short for a three.
He is a pretty clear 2. At worst he's Tony Allen. He'll be a defensive disruptor who can guard 3 positions.
For the #2 pick he better be a lot better than Tony Allen.
Noel pouting haha
Stern trolling everyone: "I can't hear you"
And wave up the crowd.
He really is going all Pro Wrestling.
Needs to augment his entry music to I Am A Real American.
LOL Stern is hamming it up out there. At least he doesn't ignore the boos like Goodell.
I have a feeling there will be a 30 for 30 on this draft in the future.
Oh David Stern, you master of comic timing...
Otto Porter will be a solid bench player...
What if Noel falls to the Pistons (and Trey is gone)?
Hell no. Unless we use him as bait
Fun to watch the draft, but holy crap, Jalen Rose is frickin' annoying.
So we've reached the adventures in Michael Jordan portion of the draft. Will he deliver?
Cody Zeller. Have fun with that softy Charlotte. No 3-foot foul circle in the NBA
....at pick #19
Michael Jordan is horrible...sell the team and go play golf. Zeller is horrible. Anytime you put a big body on him he shuts down.
Whoa. Zeller over Noel?
Or does Stern have a goatee?
This is not my Earth.
His 2nd chin.
Ha Zeller. That pick is awful at 4
At this rate the Pistons might have a shot to draft Noel.
Also, LOL MJ. Just, LOL. Keep on doing what you're doing, man. It's great. Like some magnificent avant garde piece.
Noel, McLemore, Burke, or Len HAVE to be available.
Edit- Len drafted, so the first three!!
"what does that say about indiana basketball"
they underachieved this year..thats what it says
That they had 2 of the top 4 players and couldn't beat the Cuse in the Tourney.
I've never been so happy to see a hated rival go in the Top 5. I hope Cody got his fill of wins at Indiana, because that ain't gonna be happening much in Charlotte.
On a side note, one good thing about Trey Burke possibly sliding is that whatever team is smart enough to take him will actually be half decent. Seeing Trey on some team with terrible management would be depressing.
Suns are going to draft McLemore.
Look everybody, it's Darko 2.0
noel. i'm gonna cry (dry tears of anger)
#1 overall talent, they can let him heal because they have front court help, and could have the best rotation or trade bait.
Len is soft and not great either. Slow as hell. Also, Noel... damn :(
I mean, it's gotta be awkward to sit there through this, but seeing Kentucky's biggest name plummet is pretty fantastic. Still anxiously awaiting the day Calipari gets their program obliterated by NCAA sanctions (if that's even a thing anymore...Mark Emmert)
With only 2 picks ahead of them, the Pistons officially have a shot at either Noel, McLemore, or Burke. This is fucking insane.
Why is Shane Battier, an active player, conducting these interviews?
This is bringing back many fond memories of watching Brady Quinn drop like a brick. The look on his face has been burned into me and it feels wonderful.
Mclemore to the pistons would be great. Hope that happens
OMG WE COULD GET BURKE! SCREW THIS UP KINGS!
Come on Kings, take McLemore.
Ive always called Nerlens Noel "New Orleans Noel" just to be an ass, now its true!
It was destiny LoL Now come on Pistons....get Tr3y!
Davis and Noel could be a hell of a tandem. Especially because Noel will get to play the 4.
McLemore or Burke for the Pistons. Do like
One will be available.
with anthony davis. does 1-tweener + 1-tweener equal a good combo?
we gotta get burke it's lining up...
The Pistons will continue to be an irrelevant team until Joe D leaves.
The Pelicans are certainly goint to be interesting to watch.
Zeller is Adam Morrison 2.0.
Shane Battier is beyond terrible.
Is it just me, or does Battier have a really, really awkward camera presence?
He comes off a tad creepy.
Freep reporting on twitter that mclemore is going to the Kings.
Watch the Pistons screw this up and pass on either Trey or Ben
DON'T YOU DARE PASS ON TREY
Don't screw this up, Joe.
COME ON PISTONS!!! COME ON! TREY BURKE!!!
Thank God the Kings didn't take Trey thats the last team I wanted to Burke to go to.
You owe us big time. Dont screw this up...
wow this could actually happen, 5 minutes left
BURKE! BURKE! BURKE! BURKE!
DON'T YOU DARE FUCK THIS UP JOE DUMARS! DON'T YOU DARE!
Just so I can re establish my interest in the Pistons.
All right Joe D, time to fulfill your annual duty of making the obvious choice of a guy who unexpectedly fell to your slot.
The opportunity. Lets go Joe! Do one right by us for a change.
If the pistons want to sell tickets, they should draft Burke.
Has he been accurate so far tonight?
You can't be serious...
Alright Dumars BETTER NOT take MCW over Trey
I'm picking a new NBA franchise to root for until Dumars is let go.
Burke burke burke burke burke
They are DEAD to me!!!!
These draft hats are hideous!
Damn when did Trey Burke become such a sex symbol? First GQ and then that 70s porn music with his promo?
BREAKING: NAWLINS has traded Nerlens Noel to the 76ers per Yahoo Sports!!
Handed to them on a platter, and the Pistons blow it. I'm done with them. Thanks for the memories.
Primes Philly to take Trey at 11.
Okay Pistons I think I am officially done with you. And I don't mean Lions-fan-done, I mean actually FINISHED. Haven't watched a game in two years. Not gonna happen for a while.
The Pistons suck and will continue to suck.Worst franchose in Detroit by a LOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG margin. At least the Lions have Megatron adn Stafford. The Pistons have no one of note.
THE TENSION IS KILLING ME!
OMG NOEL TO THE 76ERS! WHAT IS GOING ON?
DRAFT TREY BURKE!
good I can continue to not watch the pistons for the foreseeable future.
Draft Trey. Won't turn into a 2. Will be your distributor for the next 10+ years. Don't outsmart yourself Joe. If you pick MCW or McCollum I will disown you as a fan.
apparently, Twitter is blowing up at how fine Trey Burke looks tonight.
Fire Joe. Another self imposed one year NBA ban. I will not watch Pistons as a result of not drafting Trey. FU Pistons. Massive disappointment
That's the sound of the last person getting off of Joe Dumars's bandwagon.
The Pistons may be dead to me.
Wanted fans to come back, they sure shit the bed on this one.
FUCK YOU DUMARS.
Who did the Piston's just draft...
FUCK THE PISTONS. FUCK DUMARS.
Fuck you Dumars. FUCK YOU.
GARBAGE. WORST GM IN HISTORY.
And there goes my last shred of interest in the Pistons.
do not want.
I'm going to be sick.
Why! I hate the pistons
Sad Trey Burke face=Sad Bando
Good - I can continue to not give a shit about the Pistons.
I'm no longer a fan.
The Pistons are stupid.
So does this mean they haven't given up on Brandon Knight at point guard? I would think so.
Kentavious Caldwell Pope isn't a bad pick. He was probably the most underrated player in college basketball last year.
Hahahahahaha, meltdown commence.
Fuck this. Goodnight.
Thanks for the championships, but I am finished with the Pistons.
This is so upsetting!
Pope to Pistons...
Glad I'm not a Pistons fan
All right, I'm done with Joe Dumars. Fire the man, Gores.
What the hell is a Kentavious anyways?
We should be happy that Trey isn't going to such a poorly run team.
Did anybody else catch Rece Davis make a joke about Stern pouring out a 40 for the block party?
What am I watching right now?
That was Simmons.
least 10 games this year. Now I won't even watch a single game...possibly for the next few years. This one hurts. Fire Joe D. What a joke.
How dare his parents not name him Pentavious Caldwell Pope.
I wanted to make PCP jokes. As in, was Joe Dumars high on PCP when he passed on Burke?
I remember the old Pistons
Old as in 2004
This...this is just so disappointing. I wanted to see another PG like we had back in the day with Chauncey. I wanted to see a STAR. Burke was a damn star.
It made perfect sense to draft him considering he was still available. Pistons don't know what the fuck they're doing. I was done with this team after 2008
Not surprised that Pistons didn't select Burke, but it's silly to see guys like Zeller and Porter gone while Burke sits. He's going to make an emerging team really happy.
Good one. Made me laugh through my anger
awful! I'm done...
I am not a pistons fan, but if I was, man would I be pissed. They have a chance to pick one of if not the top players in the draft at a position of great need - oh, and he is a f-ing hero to a huge segment of your fanbase and wildly popular (GQ, constant ESPN love, etc.). Yup, definitely makes sense not to draft THAT guy.
Hope that my Knicks pull a surprise and trade up to steal him. We really need a young pg.
You can't coach SEC speed.
If that Philly trade (send Jrue Holiday + 2014 1st rounder to New Orleans) is accurate, they're going to pick Trey.
Minnesota and Portland don't need PGs.
Not a bad pick for Joe.
Is lucky to avoid playing in Detroit. The Pistons have not been headed in the right direction. Twolves would be a sick spot for Trey...
They have Rubio, so no!
it would stink for Trey to fall out of the top 10 but it would stink to go to MIN or Philly
Now I hope Burke just goes to a nice basketball city...but Minnesota and Portland are next so it's not likely.
Well yea they have Rubio and Lillard so doubtful
Is Millen making picks for the Pistons now?
T-Wolves for Burke
So Burke probably isn't going to Minny if they do select him. Who traded for him?
I really hate Joey D. Over the past 6 years, he's turned himself into one of the worst front office guys in all of professional sports. What a joke.
The 76ers gave up Jrue Holiday for Noel? What the hell are they doing?
trade him to a contender right fucking now please
I LOVE THE TIMBERWOLVES.....unitl he gets traded.
Trey gets the biggest cheer. DUMARS, YOU ARE A FUCKTARD.
Trey is going to get traded.
Holy cow. Minnesota fans are going to melt. There's no way they're not trading someone here.
Burke gettin drafted.
I'd say the randomness of this draft plays in Timmy's favor. Someone might just take him at #10. Why not?!
Will get traded toi the Lakers
I could watch that Beilein reaction on loop for hours.
Is it me or do the Detroit franchises not like to draft Michigan players? I don't get it.
Rubio can't shoot well enough to play the two, can he?
Dumars just drafted a shooting guard who shoots 43% from the floor???
In the SEC??
He was also playing one on five every game, and single handedly won some games for them.
Put him on a team where he's not the only guy who can actually play basketball and his efficiency will rise.
I can't stop laughing.. Minnesota just can't not take a point guard.
Burke is a Wolve!!!
Joe D, come on, trade Brandon Knight for Trey. You know you want to. You can totally redeem yourself.
...will be fun to watch.
Not unless Kevin Love gets trade to Utah.
This Draft is fuggin' weeeiiiiiird.
Chips all over shoulders.
I love a good mom interview.
i hate everything right now. trey in utah is the most disgusting
Not UTAH get traded to the Lakers
Glad Trey's picked. If he stays at the Wolves, I'll root for them.
Trey Burke will get traded to Portland !
and what kind of comment is this "I heard when Trey was younger, that he drew himself in an NBA jersey". Who didn't do something like that when they were a kid?
They just HAD to mention that he was Sullinger's teammate in high school one last time.
Burke to UTAH in the works.
Trey to Portland...I could hop on that train (this coming from a guys who is not NEAR the train stop in regards to the NBA).
Just realized how much I will miss him.
Funny cause the same guy just said two minutes before that Burke will go to Portland.
Damn happy for you, Trey. Whether you ultimately end up in Minnesota or not, whoever gets you just got a damn good floor general.
OMG - I'm literally going to throw up.
So did you?
Reports that Trey is headed to Utah
Stern with the little hand gestures, egging them on. What the hell is he thinking?
What the hell does he care?
But now it's just annoying
But expect Rubio will be the only marquee point guard in Minne by the end of the night.
Edit: Next Stockton. Screw the Timberwolves, go Jazz.
Not aware of Utah's PG situation, could Burke start right away?
Yes. The Jazz have a pupu platter of point guards; Mo Williams, Jamaal Tinsley, Earl Watson, and Randy Foye
- Mo Williams
- Earl Watson
- Randy Foye
- Alec Burks
There are minutes to be had in that rotation. As far as I know, Williams is an unrestricted free agent and hasn't signed.
Trey's on the phone, Beilein playing wingman. Something's going on.
Probably just ordering a pizza.
Naw, subs are on the way.
about a draft. Denard to the Jags pissed me off, but now that he is there and they are so high on him, it doesn't matter.
Utah is just...man. i'm so sad
...time to cut off and come back when THJ will be drafted. Maybe by then all of these trades will be worked out.
just described mccollum as "not just a shooter"...drink??
Of Stern's little hand wave egging the crowd on. It's gold.
King Joeffry would do all grown up.
Jazz have some pieces. Favours, Kanter, Burks.... and a ton of cap space.
CRAZIEST DRAFT EVER!!!!
I was kind of hoping, though, that Burke would fall to my Sixers....replace Jrue with Trey.
Brandon Knight is our point guard. We just drafted him in the lottery. If you start drafting PGs all the time, you become the T-Wolves.
Now if they follow this up with Ray McCallum, I'll be pleased.
Brandon Knight is still trying to get up off the floor.
But hasn't the Brandon Knight as starting point guard already proven to be a bust?? They made a trade to get Calderon because he wasn't cutting it at point.
He plays the position, but he is not a PG.
But Dumars has always had something against small PGs. I think maybe he thought he was the NBA All-Star PG and some guy named Isiah got all the recognition so he takes it out on the little guys. Dumars is a fucking joke, period.
Why did the Pistons pass on Burke?!?
Because Dumars is a dumdum
I already dislike the NBA. Now I'm never watching Pistons basketball again in my life. Can't believe we didn't take Trey Burke.
PLENTY OF SEATS AVAILABLE AT THE PALACE!!!!
This actually hurts. I wanted Detroit to take Burke more than any pick in my NBA existance. I actually like KCP a lot - was my second choice after Burke. But not thinking Burke would be available to having him there, ready to be a Piston for life (I'm optimistic), and making my son a Pistons fan for life as well....
And they passed. I'm sad.
Good luck Trey. Utah might be good for you if the rumors are true, but going to my absolute least favorite team makes me even less happy.
This makes sense for Minnesota if they're getting two picks. Don't be at all surprised if THJ is one of them, either-they need shooters for Ricky to dish to.
Can we have subs now? This is crazzzayyy.
PG is the most important position on the court. Unless you have a Lebron you need to have a PG on the court. But what has Joe done? Draft wings. I have no issue with the Monroe and Drummond picks. You need bigs. But the Pistons had a shot at a PG. As of now their plans are to move Knight back to a position he does not fit.
The Pistons have given their fans no reason to watch their product. This franchise will remain moribund for the foreseeable future.
Trey to Utah!!! That is a great place for him.
Weren't some people projecting THJr to the Jazz also?
That would be pretty cool for them to be on the same team.
will start right away in Utah.
picks to get him means they actually value him.
Three times for number 3. I'd say it's time to call it a night. Nice work.
Exactly. And I've always nated Utah (that state and their basketball team).
It's the NFL version of going to the Jacksonville Jaguars....
Too soon? Argh!!!!!!
charlotte bobcatts, Utah had good years.
The Pistons still have 2 picks, so there is hope for Timmy, but them drafting a 2 might have sealed the deal on that. I would imagine they go back up point guard and reserve big man.
and Dumars can eat my ass! I will actually take pleasure in rooting against them now...
If it makes the Pistons fans feel better, remember that the Pacers took Reggie Miller over Steve Alford.
Are you saying Trey will flame out and KCP will become a sniper?
I'm saying there is sketchy, anecdotal precedent that passing on the hometown hero will work out for the best.
I was praying for that Wolves trade to be to the Pacers.
At best he will be solid starter or bench player, which is not what this team needs. The Pistons need an identity and your identity starts at the PG spot.Right now this team has no identity, no one to sell in a league that is heavily based on selling its players.
I'm not saying Burke will be an All Star, but he would give this team an element of toughness as well as a face of the franchise--elements this team has lacked since Billups left.
I don't know why Joe D passed on Burke. Perhaps he was afraid of Mateen Part II. But Burke is a much better shooter than Mateen ever was. That fact alone gives him a better shot than Mateen at being a good NBA player.
Say what you want about Mayhew and Schwartz, but they at least understood where to begin building your team. Joe D apparently has forgotten that. He keeps thinking that he can turn SG's into PGs like Brown did with Chauncey. But Chauncey was a different player on team that had remarkable chemistry. Brandin Knight is no Chauncey Billips. Sure, they may have similiar height and games, but Billups had something special that made him perfect for the teams he helmed here in Detroit.The crucible he went through in the 5 teams he was on before he got to Detroit made Billups into the perfect PG for the "Going-to-Work" Pistons.Oh and they don't have Larry Brown as coach.
The Pistons are going the way of the Tigers afer Sparky left. It is going to be long night before the suns shines on this franchise again. By then Joe will have long been relieved of his duties.
Hardaway Jr. had a better shooting percentage last year than KCP. And he didn't even have a good year shooting the ball.
This is a disaster of a pick. This guy is never going to be a good enough shooter to justify a #8 pick.
KCP was also the only good player on a team full of scrubs. Did you watch Georgia play at all? He was basically going one on five every game in the SEC. His field goal percentage is also misleading because over half of his shots were 3s. He shot over 50% on 2pt field goals.
His true shooting % was 58, which is outstanding.
I know we're all salty about the Pistons not drafting Burke, but seriously, watch Caldwell-Pope highlights. The kid can flat out ball, shoot lights out, and he moves like a lightning bolt.
Looks like Joe D is officially hitching his job to the Brandon Knight bandwagon.
He must be really streaky, because his stats say he is an average at best shooter and is actually a considerably worse shooter than Burke. By the numbers, THJ is a better shooter than KCP.
And he is rail thin!
That is extremely false. KCP's TS% which is the most accurate measurement of a player's shooting ability is much higher than Timmy's and he was the number 1 option on a team with no other competent players.