Nature vs Nuture
I've been thinking about this ever since Demar Dorsey was expected to come into our team and be an immediate impact player. It appears that corners are just pure athletes a lot of time, and the good ones can come in as freshman and make an impact just purely based on their athletic talent and instincts.
Since we have a young team, what positions do people feel are more talent based, and which positions require more coaching to become truly premiere? From a truly novice perspective, it appears that RBs, WRs, and Corners are much more instinct driven, while safeties, linebackers, and both lines, require a lot more coaching to understand where to be, proper technique, and what to do? Thoughts?
Some may disagree but I truly believe a successful kicker is less about instincts and athletic ability and more about technique and proper coaching/
I agree completely. I had the benefit of good coaching in high school and was recruited to walk on by a lot of my local schools (Duke, App St, UNC, Wake Forest). They actually told me that I was technically about as good as I could get thanks to that coaching, but had also just about exhausted my potential.
When it comes to recruiting kickers, they tend to find the raw guy with the big leg and hope he responds well to coaching. There are a lot of variables, especially since you have to make the transition from kicking off of a block to kicking off grass.
For punting, they can take any large kid with a soccer background and turn him into a monster with good coaching. I was told that to be an ideal punter I would need to grow atleat 5 inches and gain 50 pounds.
I agree with you. I was and all state soccer player my senior year, and was also the punter for my school's football team. I had a few schools contact me (nothing ig, just a couple of the local MACs.) but I decided to attend college and enjoy myself and not have to be a student athlete.
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I think some at positions (Cb,Rb, and Wr) the top players just get it. They can be coached up, but their natural talent puts them on top.
Other positions, like safeties, Lb, and both lines require more coaching, and even the most talented can flop, and some without talent can be coached up to above average starters.
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Any good defensive player needs good instincts also. Else they get juked outta their shoes.
QB's need tons of coaching, obviously, especially when it comes to reading defenses.
OG and D-tackle I would think require less coaching than raw power. D-tackle clogs up the middle so you need raw power and size. Guards aren't usually dealing with fast D-ends like O-tackles so it's just a matter of handling the guy pushing forward in front of them.
But that's just me...an idiot at work babbling on about a sport I love.
Are the new tackles.
Not quite, but I can't think of anything scarier than a pulling guard. I agree for a lot of stuff guard is easier than tackle (pass blocking for sure, you have help on both sides) But I think that O line in general takes a lot of both
If offensive guard and defensive tackle didn't require much coaching, you'd have every powerlifter playing those positions. Those interior line positions require a lot of coaching on leverage, footwork, handwork, angles, etc. Responsibilities differ from position to position, but OGs don't require any less coaching than OTs, and DTs don't require any less coaching than DEs.
With your logic on DT's, Will Campbell should have been an all big ten selection
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I think you're correct in thinking that WRs, RBs, and CBs generally transition easier from one level to the next. Those positions are based on what they are doing, not necessarily what an opponent is forcing them to do. It's instinct and reaction more than fundamentals and reads. There are definitely things that can be improved upon (for example, freshman running backs usually suck at pass protection), but I'd rather have a freshman running back than a freshman middle linebacker or safety.
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Should DG redshirt, or play some next year? He should get moved to safety or CB.
I think that Center in particular is a position that requires a lot of coaching. I thought it was interesting to see how Moosman had issues with things as trivial as snapping the ball when he switched there last season. Obviously quarterback is the other offensive position with a lot of coaching needed.
For Defense I think that it actually gets even trickier given how prone coaches can be to completely changing schemes and players' individual responsibilities. The D-Line is fairly straightforward, but depending on the scheme the Linebackers and Safeties can have wildly different responsibilities and easily become a hot mess.