The low number of Denard passes, and the presence of Gardner makes me think that Denard's elbow may have been worse than people thought. Up until now the offensive playcalling has been good, as they learn what Denard can and can't do. I don't think Borges suddenly forgot how to call a game. Michigan has returned to Fort Schembechler, so I doubt we'll ever know the extent of Denard's heatlh, but this week off should be good for him and the whole team.
Well there is no need to
He definitely is hurt now.
He definitely is hurt now.
Don't think so
he just has terrible technique and when under pressure he reverts to throwing off his back foot with his hips wide open. No QB can be accurate throwing like that.
His oline did him no favors and he never had time to servey the defense.
still can't blame it on his
still can't blame it on his elbow (which might have been like that since Minn.). Denard just played BAD today. I think he is trying so much to make sure that every throw is perfect, that it's making Tacopants go for 100+ yds.
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Listen before jumping to conclusions.
Ok look I love Denard, absolutely love the kid. But, I would love to see as a "TEAM" Gardner in at qb. He throws a harder ball with more accuracy on it. Now what you do with Denard is line him up along side of Gardner or slot out. Show some motion plays putting him into slot and then some screen passes and then you got the ability to run option plays with him lined up as well in the backfield. Just I believe Denard does have the ability to throw the ball, he however needs more time and has to really work on mechanics. Throwing off his back foot constantly and on the run is tough for him. I know this is going to neg voted but this is what I believe is best for THE TEAM!
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Agree with everything you
Agree with everything you say, but at some point you need to start asking yourself how long you can go while Denard works on his mechanics. Against average teams, you can get away with a lot, but moving forward we play a couple of good defenses. They will play us exactly the way Sparty did and probably have success until you have an effective passing game.
ESPN was saying that Denard had given up more INT's than any other QB in the country. Don't know if that is accurate but it probably isn't off my much if it isn't.
As per the Wolverine,
Denard is on his way to easily break the UM interception record.
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I don't know if Denard can
I don't know if Denard can work much more on his mechanics. Theyre obviously horrible, but this is his third year in the program. I think it is what it is at this point.
Founder of the Devin to replace Denard movement
I posted pretty much this same thing about 3 weeks ago.
And I also said that this team will only go as far as Denards ARM will take them (we know what his legs can do).
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He's electric, but ..
I've been calling for them to put Gardner in all year. Denard is a very fast dude, but his mechanics and decision making haven't improved enough. I think Devin may not have Denard's speed, but I think he's got a much higher ceiling.
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No
I blame previous coaching staff
Had they not burned his redshirt on some meaningless snaps against Iowa he would still be a redshirt sophomore and get two years of good coaching by a competent staff. Looking at how he plays, he is a redshirt sophomore.
It seemed to me that Meyers comments yesterday (in between Spielmans dicknishess) showed that he's exactly what Meyer thought he would be and that's why he wasn't pursuing him as a Qb.
For the record...I still blame Hopson j/k
Had they not burned his
Had they not burned his redshirt on some meaningless snaps against Iowa he would still be a redshirt sophomore
Huh? Denard played in all 12 games in 2009.
You are correct
My efforts to forget that year blocked out his 11 pass attempts before the Iowa game. I just remember him being thrown in to win the game and coming up just short.
I take the redshirt stuff back, but I still blame Hopson.
So how do we explain the lack of Denard run plays?
that was what was so mystifying. They kept going away from what we do best. If Denard is so injured that he can't run then he should not have been in the game at all and we should have just plyed Gardner the whole way. Instead we kept switching QB's so that neither could get a rythym or do what they do best.
You explain the lack of
You explain the lack of Denard running by MSU putting 8 men in the box to stop the run.
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And how is that different from every other game
we have played and will play? We will always see 8 in the box with Denard and yet that hadn't stopped us from running Denard 20-25 times and playing to his strengths. If we aren't going to do that then he frankly should not be the QB anymore because he just is not effective throwing the ball.
The difference was that MSU's
The difference was that MSU's front seven is better than those teams'. They probably could hold a lot of teams in check playing straight up. With the safeties cheating? Forget it.
I never loved Robinson as a
I never loved Robinson as a QB as much as the other people on this board.
I may be biased. Personality-wise? Dude's amazing. As a runner? All-time great. But Michigan's QB needs to throw more completions and less interceptions. Say what you want about Forcier but he got the ball in the spaces it needed to be, at a decent clip. We aren't beating good teams unless the light comes on as a passer for Denard. I'm starting to wonder if it will.
We don't have a prayer against Nick Saban's new team in Jerryworld, next year, unless Gardner pushes Robinson from here on out and over the summer.
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Friend, you're not the only
Friend, you're not the only one. Denard is a great talent and fantastic human being, but his throwing arm and mechanics are currently a ceiling on his potential at the QB position.
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No he took a CHEAP shot from a Dantonio
trainee. Exactly the way the whole game was played.
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Hey now, didn't you hear the
Hey now, didn't you hear the announcers? Dantonio is a good clean coach who teaches his players to play hard but clean and with respect. The late hits, punches taunts etc by numerous different players was simplya coincedence. At least Dantonio punished the kids to show them their errors right?
This might be arrogant, and if it is, it is, but we're Michigan
Denard is now leading the
Denard is now leading the country in interceptions, nuff said.
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I think the wind was a slight
I think the wind was a slight factor as Denard does not have a huge arm. I don't think this was Borges best effort either. They should have called more high percentage passes to get Denard's confidence up. Also why did they not call any screens?
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It does seem
There was a notable lack of calls of classic "blitz-breakers" like inside draw, screens, and pop passes/quick slants to the spots the blitzing backers just left. Denard clearly was affected by the pressure/lack of time.
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we'll bounce back
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nope
nervous, jittery, confused, playing without much confidence
It's clear he doesn't understand the reads he's supposed to be making. So Borges needs to call plays where the first option is open. Al's gotta earn that paycheck this year, yo
I understand some of the
I understand some of the frustration. Yes, Denard can be better but he is the only playmaker on offense. It's an one man show and we will live and die with him.
Imagine Denard with some of the better Michigan offenses. What if he had a player like Desmond Howard or Tyrone Wheatley? What if he had one of those old Michigan offensive lines littered with All Big Ten performers?
The kid needs help and he isn't gettting any.
You have a point. When you
You have a point. When you break it down, RR, for all his so-called wizardry, left us with precious few game-breakers on offense. Hemingway has obviously had some great moments. But we don't really have any burner receivers who consistently get separation. We have six RBs who are okay but nothing special. The tight ends have been largely invisible. More often than not, it's just Denard and his blockers.
W-w-w-w-ait a minute?
I thought it was all Bush's fault?
Well there is no need to guess anymore because Denard was definitely injured after that thuggish late hit by Rush towards the end of the game.
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