Holy shit this is awesome.
Is it too late to change the 2010 student section t-shirt? Either way I will have a t-shirt with this on it before next season.
This post is a joke, right? I mean, you aren't really serious about this, your RCMB friends put you up to it, etc. If you are actually serious about this post, you are in for a rude awakening soon. MSU could easily implode if Saint Dantonio doesn't either get rid of or regain control of the less-than-ethical subculture that exists among a large portion of "his" team.
You are way off on this one, but I think you have probably nailed MSU's record with your post.
horrendous post is where he attempts to over-inflate the importance of MSU. A loss to MSU and RR faces an in-season dismissal?
Seriously? There is absolutely no scenario in which a loss to MSU (standing alone) is even grounds for an end-of-season dismissal, let alone an in-season one. Among the many, many flaws in your reasoning is that Brandon has stated repeatedly that he intends to judge RR on the body of his work--not a single game. An in-season dismissal for any reason flies in the face of this.
Last but not least, we just don't care that much about you guys. I'm sorry. Sure, you are a rival. 1 of 3, ranking third. Unlike you, the MSU game is not the only game on our schedule. The disconnect from the way the two fanbases approach this game - truly - is fucking hilarious.
And you take back what you said about Barwis earlier. TAKE IT BACK!!!
How did a kool-aid drinking MSU fan get enough points to post something like that? Magnus is going to go ape-sh** when he reads that Free Press Special.
...internet vitriol. Can't wait until actual football gets played.
to a game of NCAA 2010 RIGHT NOW so I can prove RR is a good coach
You should let me play him. I was ranked as high as 72 online last year. And yes, I am a no life loser.
When the OP was born the doctor should have slapped everone in the room.
I predict that while the 2010 season is unpredictable, we act as though it were (was?) predictable when it is over.
i KNEW you were going to post this
I knew you were going to respond with that!!
this game was tomorrow and not 4 months from now.
Michigan returns 75% of their starters but isn't going to improve?
I'm with you on this one. Just about every MSU fan that I talk to, assumes that Sparty will get better and everyone else will stay the same or get worse. This MSU team will be 6-6 again. The team last year went 6-6 in the regular season and were 1-4 against the 5 teams with winning records that they played. They also didn't play OSU. They will be lucky to have a 6-6 record again this year. They had a pass efficiency defense that was rated 101st in the country last season, but our defense is the one that will blow? Also, that talented offense that they had last year didn't manage a passing TD vs. our "horrible" D last year.
I truly believe that UM has the potential to blow this team out. I also believe that, given the chance, Rich Rod will bury Dantonio. Make no mistake about it. UM wants to beat these guys bad!
Don't worry, we'll make room for ya on the RR bandwagon before the season is done.
Mr. msu fan, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Everyone who posted, save a few, are extremly defensive about this. You must be afraid somewhat. His logic, flawed in spots as it may be, is completely feasable. I wouldn't be suprised with 5-7 wins. Sometimes you have to step away from things and look at them in a different light so your own emotions don't interfer.
what UConn has shown themselves to be that makes them a walk-away loss like the OP introduces?
Next he will be doing "300" impressions: "WE...ARE...SPARTA!" Yeesh.
This is inflated ego of the irrational Spartan fan in all its YouTube glory...my favourite line is where they talk about what an honor it is to die on the battlefield...I say we give them what they want...
This is so ridiculous. A mod at The Only Colors said that 300 may have been the worst thing to happen to their program, and while I think this is slightly exaggerated, it has been pretty funny to see the fanbase resemble its stereotype of frat-boy douchebags with their obsessive following of an admittedly mediocre gore-fest that was totally awesome, brah. I am so glad we don't go "OMG HUGH JACKMAN WOLVERINE WIN FIGHT KILL RAWK!! What is this 'Hail to the Victors?'"
They have gold outlines on their numbers on the "alternate" football jerseys, presumedly because of the Spartan warrior image brought on by 300. Come on...
Dude...could you picture it? We all go to games dressed in Maize and Blue "X-Men" costumes with copycat facial hair and fake Wolverine claws on the backs of our hands...too funny...just the thought of that makes the whole Spary 300 thing seem even more rediculous.
Don't forget the video for the pre-game, X-Men Origins works nicely I think. Who cares about running through the banner? That stuff is so outdated.
We need some ten foot Wolverine Xmen mascot to lead the team out and instead of Touching the Banner... he shreds it with his claws...all while we blast loud RAWK music and set off flairs and fireworks...it will be sooo awesome!
with sunglasses, a cape and cowl... that would be epic ridiculous...
That this turd in moss green suspenders threw the grenade into the room and walked away? He hasn't returned to make any comments. Not one. He wanted to make us all go ballistic (it worked) and enjoy the fireworks.
he rarely discusses topics. just posts and walks off. hence why it's so annoying that he feels the need to not make forum posts but, instead, forum topics.
with OP update/response
He is right. We would have gone into auto-troll mode last year had someone predicted 5-7. The only thing I really see is the Purdue loss and Wisconsin win but other than that it's all possible. I said it before, he's more rational than those calling 9-3 or 10-2.
it's that it's dressed up as a thorough analysis when it has little to no analysis. he ignores any sort of natural progression for UM and instead buries the defense as "undoubtedly worse" due to one lineman and a cornerback. while these are issues of importance, they're not an overall death knell. the d-line looked strong in spring practice and is a UNIT, not one side. if all the dbs go from 6s to 7s while losing an 8/9 player, they're a better unit. if the line goes from 7s to 8s while losing a 10, the unit is better.
an admitted fan of another team who feels the need to create posts that extoll his virtues as rational without an analysis that truly shows any sort of valid knowledge? that's not right, that's trolling. 5-7 is a basement, not a middle ground expectation.
oh and don't forget his is the fan base that predicted 9-3 or 10-2 last year. by all predictions i've seen on MSU based sites, 9-3 is their expected basement. so an MSU fan's prediction that throws out 5-7 as his expectation not in a comment but in a glorified "LOOKATME, I'S SMART" manner. it's unwelcome to many.
Are a beautiful man, mon ami.
I feel the need to agree with his assessment of our defense, not because of his analysis, but because of how bad it was last year (although hopefully the Ohio State game was the start of a trend and not the exception to the rule). It won't be as bad as last year, but that isn't saying much, if anything at all.
As for the "rational" MSU fan, his approach was pretty tactless, and I don't think he cares (obviously). He shouldn't have posted this, and it should be taken with a grain of salt. This was not thourough or even researched analysis, and to claim that it was is misleading.
State did lose a few close games last year, with their schedule 9-3 was not a bad prediction. As for this year, the schedule is favorable again, but 9-3 is the kind of homerism that is found everywhere, including here.
i would also like to point out that your ultimate premise that a 5-7 prediction would have elicited trollism. MANY people believed 6-6 was very possible and that 8-4 was a very optimistic ceiling. predictions of 10-2 this year are very rarely serious and are instead the optimism of people who have seen that the development of many of the players seems to be peddle to the floor. i think it may be one thing i can conclusively note as a difference between Carr and RR - players under Carr seemed to get better yearly; players under RR seemed to struggle and then become WAY better in a rush. now you could argue it's hard not to look better when you look as bad as some did in 2008 but i genuinely don't look at last year's team as a 5-7 team. and i watched every game. they very narrowly missed 7-5 imo whereas teams like MSU who could have ended up 8-4 instead of 6-6 missed did so because of systematic problems. UM would lose games by being burned on one to two plays - teams like MSU would lose by consistent series that exploited very serious defensive problems that have not been shored up in the offseason. whereas it appears UM has. the 3-4 is not going to fix MSU's db problems, it just escalates the power of their LB corps.
color me optimistic that this team returning is not going to hit the low-end again.
We would have had to be really really lucky to go 7-5. As it is we won two games that we were outgained in and could have gone either way (ND + Indiana). The other games that were close (Purdue, MSU, Iowa) we were also outgained in. For us to have won 4 out of those 5 games would have required a tremendous amount of luck.
The Only Colors did a poll.
Contrary to your statement that "9-3 is the expected basement", the majority of them expect 8 wins or less.
You should let the OP be the only one tossing out ignorant claims here.
i would trust RCMB opinion way more than tOC, especially given a number of glaring errors that site has had, bordering on libel. also given the fact the median is 8.5ish, that would fit within my assertion. discussions have prevailed on MSU sites that nobody can figure out what their fourth loss would be.
Voting has gotten a bit childish on this board. Reward thoughtful contributions. Punish offensive or unserious contributions.
The above was a rational and reasoned post. If we punish posters for not seeing the glass half full we are sliding towards the common football fan boards. Let's not.
I think someone swung through and negged everybody. I'm not sure who or why but, that's what it looks like. May have been more than one id, too.
I appreciate it.
But we are kind of sliding towards the "if you don't think like us, you're wrong" mentality. I don't really mind though.
"So nobody on this board thinks 5-7 is possible? Wow."
It's one thing to be trollish in predicting 5-7 based on ridiculous reasoning, on a total lack of ability to think logically. It is another to come back and act like we are the ridiculous, irrational ones. I find it exceedingly irritating for sparty to come back and use the condescending "wow" based on on his own blindness to his own stupidity. Nothing is worse than trying to engage in a logical debate with someone too stupid to recognize his own stupidity.
EDIT - Redacted this derogatory portion in the hopes of keeping it classy.
Didn't MSU's receiving corps just get out of jail?
Is that he was so surprised that this post got a negative response. Whether or not we're worried about the upcoming season doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is we don't need to hear this shit.
Now go home and get your shine box.