It appears we have an answer on why Dion Sims hasn't been playing for Michigan State. Wayne County prosecutors just revealed that he has allegedly been involved in a Detroit Public Schools computer theft ring involving 988 stolen laptops valued at around $800,000.
http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2010/09/dion-sims-in-trouble.html
Nothing to really say other than for his sake, I hope it's not true.
How do 988 laptops go missing
BOO
YA!!
He forgot to pay off the
He forgot to pay off the school board and so they "noticed" these were missing.
New Free Press article says
New Free Press article says "around 800" were stolen from DPS system last year, but Sims' ring was involved in stealing "about 104" of them. But yeah, I don't know.
Galileo was also chastised.
Its DPS
what do you expect
I need to go home and put water in Buck Nasty's Mom's dish
New Rivalry Game
MSU vs. Florida. The Battle of Cell Block Six.
Not exactly the brass spittoon but....
The "Shawshank 2 or more redemption if you're good at football trophy" ?
Too long I know.
"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....." 1-11-11
How about
How about the "Don't drop the soap" trophy?
The guy keeping track of the
The guy keeping track of the laptops and ordering more is in on it. 10 go missing, 10 go missing, 10 go missing, order 100 more, 20 never made it in, 10 go missing, 10 go missing...
It's DPS. You could steal an
It's DPS. You could steal an entire school and they wouldn't notice.
Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug
67-22-3 all-time
Stay classy
No need to take a jab at MSU. They do it to themselves.
I guarantee this guy "deserves a second chance"
Where is Lynn Henning and the fleet of MSU apologists when you need them. I can already hear it! "Just a foolish mistake from an poorly guided young man from a bad neck of the woods"....blah, blah, blah. Good thing Urban Meyer and his bunch of hoods are out there to take the prize for most arrests in a three year period athough the Sparties are closing in fast.
im sure jemele hill will
im sure jemele hill will somehow find a way to blame white people.
Driving while drinking...
... is such a widespread problem, this board rarely throws stones (glass houses and all), however, felony theft or assault (or shooting yourself with a gun) is much bigger news to us. Typical Sparty can't appreciate the difference between the offenses.
Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.
Just sayin'
If I had to pick which crime is worse, I go with drunk driving hands down. You can replace computers, or even get them back after being stolen. Some drunk ass hits a kid on the street and you don't get him back. I hate MSU as much as anyone and really don't get why someone on a UM board can't inform people of this clown from MSU. However, you brought up the comparison and I say the two aren't even close.
Totally agree...
... I did not intend to belittle the significance of the crime, but rather point out that it simply isn't as newsworthy since it happens so often (sadly) and no one group of people can make any claim of a moral high ground
Do Something. If it works, do more of it. If it doesn't, do something else.
OK, we need to differentiate
OK, we need to differentiate with actual harm and potential harm. Sure, it's possible that Braylon could have hit a person. But he didn't. I know people die from drunk drivers, but they also die from people speeding, talking on their cell phones while driving, falling asleep at the wheel and a number of other things. Also, a guy driving safely with a too high BAC is very different from someone so wasted they forget what side of the road to drive on.
Saying a DWI is a worse crime than felony theft only because of what could happen is a silly way to look at it. Is a DWI worse than beating your kids? Remember, your kids are still alive, but the drunk driver could have killed someone. Maybe that's an extreme example, but based on your comment it sounds like you'd believe that.
So the potential for harm doesn't matter?
I am saying that a DWI is worse than felony theft yes. One has the potential to seriously harm someone while the other is about a persons property. You bring up an example where someone is obviously getting hurt (beating a child) to contrast a situation where someone could get hurt. These are two very different conversations.
I understand that everyone has different sets of morals but as a Dr. who has seen far too many people come into the ER because some asshole thought he was sober enough drive mine tell me I would rather have someone break into my home and steal everything I own rather then have them driving drunk on the streets where I live. I can replace anything material that they steal but if he were to hit one of my children I could never get them back.
If the potential for harm in these instances was only to themselves, I would say fine, let the idiots kill themselves. Unfortunately it is often innocent people who actually obey the law that end up hurt.
I can't even believe that I am having this debate with an adult (i guess you may not be an adult though, who knows). You're really suggesting that stealing is worse than drunk driving? I hope for your sake that it doesn't take losing someone close to you to a drunk driver to get you to figure out how insane that is.
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You're really suggesting that stealing is worse than drunk driving?
When you consider the potential jail time for both crimes, it is apparent he's not the only one who thinks felony theft is worse than a DWI.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
Back in my day . . .
Back in my day, we used to create fake usernames with AOL to go into chatrooms and pick up girls online. I guess kids these days have taken that good, clean fun and bastardized it into signing up on college football blogs and posting taunting messages for sh-ts and giggles. What a shame.
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Chris Hansen would like to have a word with you...
Oh yes, you're right
this is not even a big deal since a FORMER Michigan player now in the NFL got in trouble. They should just pretend this didn't happen, Glen Winston style. That is, if it's true. Just a story now. By my God man, if a player fucks up, call him out on it. Ever heard of Justin Feagin or Bobo Cissoko? They're no longer even at Michigan because of their mistakes. It's not like you see a ton of ppl here rushing to defend them. Try Mlive, seriously.
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Braylon wasnt in college
when he got a DUI
I need to go home and put water in Buck Nasty's Mom's dish
Hopefully it teaches them
to wait to commit the crime until you can pay the penalty.........for starters
GRwolverine73
That makes it sound so much
That makes it sound so much worse. Fail for you.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
I expected something on the
I expected something on the Jeremiah Massoli level, but woaaaah this is way worse.
Galileo was also chastised.
yeah
it's Grand Theft Laptop.
Biz hundert azoi ve tsvantsik
Cheif Wiggums overseeing?
Cheif Wiggums overseeing?
Unfortunately, I think the
Unfortunately, I think the answer is "Detroit Public Schools".
I still don't understand how
I still don't understand how RR gets bad press for recruiting "thugs" when the MSU players do things like this and the vast majority of U of M players are classy individuals and always say the right things.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
Different styles
RR would kick this guy off of the team. The story then becomes "look at all of the players RR has runned off". MSU keeps the players on the roster and the story fades away.
They would probably get
They would probably get positive press for supporting the work release program.
Me fail english thats unpossible!
Sims hasn't played
and won't, at minimum, until this is resolved. If he's guilty, he should be gone - and I think he will be.
Some amount of stupidity is forgiveable (but still needs to be met with a temporary suspension). Lots of college students get in fights (although most of them don't send someone to the hospital with a fractured skull; Winston should have been off the team for at least a full season longer than he actually was), so I can understand booting them for a couple games or a bowl trip and then letting them rejoin the team if they remain on good behavior thereafter. This, though, if the allegations are true ... he's got to go. Grand theft is not "kids being kids".
lets say...
he is found guilty and isn't kicked off of the team, then what??? when winston spent time in jail and was allowed back on the team there was barely a yawn about it... and we all know what happened after that... if sims is allowed to play again after being found guilty, spartan fans need to really start to question what the hell is going on up there... every michigan player under richrods watch that has gotten into serious trouble with the cops has been given the boot right away to leave no doubt in the minds of other players... what is the general feeling towards the players getting in trouble over and over again??? i know that valenti has said on the air that he doesn't care to an extent if it gets them to a rosebowl, is that how all of the fans feel???
I heard 900 dollars is street
I heard 900 dollars is street value for computers these days.
In just about all facets of life:
if it's not their own money, people don't care
Multiply that by about a thousand for the officials inside the city limits of the D. The people continue to be screwed
maybe
they were Kwame Kilpatricks old laptops? That would explain why Spartys were trying to get them
GRwolverine73
UAE
How did these kids manage to fence goods to the UAE? If nothing else, they are industrious!
Here's the best quote
from Mark Hollis:
I've never been there, but I'm pretty sure that academic center has computers.
ZING!!
ZING!!
"The world is an imperfect place, screws fall out all the time".
Hide your kids, hide your wife, oh and hide your computers to
I need to go home and put water in Buck Nasty's Mom's dish
Computers are the future
I don't have one myself, but I'm gonna get one real soon.
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Oh, that Izzo is a clever guy.
Remember, Dion Sims didn't just vanish from the Spartan football roster. He was the dual-sport monster whom they thought might be a playa for Izzo too. But then in, uh "mid-February," Izzo decided it just wasn't gonna, uh, work out:
The problem with the 6-foot-5, 265-pound Sims is what position he would play, Izzo said.
"He's not as big as Trannon, in some ways," Izzo said. "And then, he needed to get into things and, in the middle of that stretch we were in, with all those games, and all of them on the road, there was just no time to spend.
"That's why it wasn't fair to him, or fair to football, or fair to anybody -- except to us. It was just a luxury to have a kid, but we didn't want to do that to him."
Sims suffered from the flu for several days, which cost him practice and game availability and further reduced his basketball viability.
So, like, the flu, and such, and yadayadayada.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2010/02/spartans_tom_izzo_cuts_tight_e.html
Cue Mark Hollis, today:
MSU Athletic Director Mark Hollis said: “Since mid-February, we have been aware that Dion Sims and members of his extended family have been dealing with some legal issues. Dion informed the coaching staff of the police investigation and has kept them apprised of the progress of the investigation.
But leave it to our man Izzo, for the, uh, "money" quote, back in that time we knew as "mid-February":
"Because we got him so late, I said, 'Let's give it three weeks, a month, and see what happens.' But we decided, probably two weeks ago, that unless something changes quickly, he'd better go back to his bread and butter, where his money is," MSU basketball coach Tom Izzo said.
Are you implying
that Izzo should have thrown him under the bus publicly instead of this?
No
I don't think he is implying that Izzo should have thrown him under the bus, but why lie about the reason he's not on the team? Just say it's a violation of team rules and leave it at that.
Because
That would-by necessity- imply that Spartan Football is ok with those types of players, which clearly isn't the case. Right?
Right?
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"Thrown under the bus?" Who do you think you are?
Drew Sharp?
When Forcier publically acknowledged that Denard Robinson took most of the practice reps with the first unit, he basically threw his fellow freshman under the bus when Robinson played little at Wisconsin.
Drew Sharp in the Free Press, November 17, 2009.
Iverson didn't call out president Joe Dumars, but he definitely threw Curry under the bus... Drew Sharp in the Free Press, October 4, 2009.
But he needs a shrewder, less reactionary approach with the Tigers. A good first step was not giving the jackals what they want -- his general manager and manager under the bus. Drew Sharp in the Free Press, August 13, 2010
Donaghy is a snake. He's pitching a book and that requires throwing people under the bus for the sake of commerce. Drew Sharp in the Free Press, December 23, 2009
Clausen got into a bar fight at Notre Dame because somebody criticized his play. He also threw a teammate under the bus for his mistakes while reviewing some game film... Drew Sharp in the Free Press, April 25, 2010
The biggest mistake was perpetuating a climate so volatile that teammates didn’t mind openly throwing him under the bus. That’s what Troy Woolfolk did when he told the Michigan Daily earlier this month that Forcier didn’t participate in the summer voluntary workouts as regularly and passionately as Robinson. Drew Sharp in the Free Press, August 22, 2010
Seriously??
You just have all these quotes saved somewhere?
I keep them in a box, under the bus.
Naturally. It's amazing the people you meet, courtesy of Drew Sharp, under the bus. It's like the Polo Grill at the Beverly Hills Hotel, or the Oak Room at The Plaza. Or Grand Central Station.
+1 Section 1
They really get under your skin, huh? I ask as someone who has sent the occasional scathing email to multiple Freep writers, they do bother me, but damn... At least you're consistent.
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How do 988 laptops go missing without someone noticing a trend...after, say, 200 or 300 or 400...and investigate?
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