I wonder what Michigan's players did in 15 seconds time on the field to show a lack of respect for MSU?
Sacked their QB?
I wonder what Michigan's players did in 15 seconds time on the field to show a lack of respect for MSU?
Sacked their QB?
And I'm sure they just love the shit out of UM and its players......what horse shit!
It might be helpful if you provided a link for the quotes.
Didn't want people to complain about a link to the Freep. While I read them in the Freep this is probably being reported elsewhere as well.
By all means leave them out then. I just meant were they from the press conference, were they from a Booster club function, or were they from a pep rally for the students when someone may be playing to the audience more than stating their actual feelings, you know just to put a little context to the situation. I wasn't criticizing you actually. If I was I would have done the "source?" or "link?" response.
I did find the other sources though.
You can't listen to Sparty about respect. Ever since they flipped out over having a flag planted on their field after previously planting their flag on another field, I just kind of laugh them off.
I didn't know Rodney Dangerfield (from beyond the grave) was giving the pre-game speeches during rivalry week
Regarding the "what did we do in 15 seconds?" I don't think you can read that literally. It's just nonsense.
As for the entire quote, it reads as nothing but whiny. It's typical Sparty. If you have to talk and talk and talk about how you feel disrespected, you're simply drawing attention to your inferiority complex and doing nothing to gain that respect. At this point, it's clear that Dantonio's only motivational ploy - the only tool he has - is about "gaining respect" and, more specifically, "gaining Michigan's respect." You don't get there that way and you definitely don't become a powerhouse that way. The "we're going to show Michigan we're as good as they are" is not the path you take to build a serious college football program. You may be able to have an occasional good year with that tactic, but not much more than that...
when people hate u, envy is lurking not too far behind.
In Spartan society, winning the coin toss and deferring to the second half is seen as extremely disrespectful.
If you're looking for it, you always find it.
for acting like a complete jackass. What "respect" do you deserve from the team that has owned you to the tune of 67-29-5 over the 101 games played. If you want "respect," shut your mouth, play the game, and win two in a row for the first time in 44 years.
So what, excatly, does "ghetto justification" mean?
(let alone "ghetto justiciation")
The ghetto part is just a dumb choice of words (at a minimum) but I know what this is getting at. The week before the High School my wife teaches at came back this year a kid got hit in the back of the head with a golf club and died while he was trying to break up a fight his brother was about to get into. The reason for the fight: his brother got 'disrespected'. The respect card is a limp ploy to make up for a lack of self-respect.
I understand what you're saying, and perceived disrespect is definitely a stupid reason to get in a fight.
But what turns your story from 'unnecessary fight' to 'tragedy' is the sociopath with the golf club. As someone who was clubbed unconscious from behind with a tree limb in college (while trying to make sure a friend didn't get attacked from behind in a fight), this hits home.
I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence, too.
for your grammar and type-o policing. The Board is certainly better off that you took the time to point out my type-o and "poor choice" of the term "ghetto." However, I do believe that in your future post, you should focus on adding substantive comments to the topic, as opposed to spelling and grammar checks. This is a UM football board, not a 10th grade grammar class.
Sure, sure - the important part was that I made fun of your little ol' spelling. Go ahead and use that one.
I would not have bothered to comment if I didn't question a substantive part of your post - the, yes, poor choice in words. Your juxtaposition of calling something ghetto while mangling the bejesus out of the very next word was low-hanging fruit that I couldn't resist tacking on at the end.
I actually don't mind this quote at all. I think this player has it on the head. It's not that I don't respect the team or the rivalry, I just don't respect people who go to Michigan State.
If you can't get into college...
...go to State (clap, clap)
Oh...maybe the student section was doing that (awesome/hilarious) cheer during the first 15 seconds of the game?
...is that Obi Ezeh and Donovan Warren began w/in that fifteen seconds presenting a major-by-major breakdown of how U of M outranks MSU scholastically according to Newsweek and US News & World Report. Then they started in on how U of M's swimming team is better than MSU's and it just all went to hell after that...
Maybe the lil bro statement made by Hart20 still resonate....?
This is why they are Little Brother and I hope that Rich Rod runs up the score on these guys. I want to see their fans leave the stadium before the end of the third quarter.
Run up the score coach...it's soo not like Lloyd Carr, but these guys deserve it.
Run up the Score...Please, Run up the Score.
I don't think it counts as running up the score if we win 72-68.
I will be happy w/ a W, no matter how it comes.
Run up the score coach...it's soo not like Lloyd Carr, but these guys deserve it
Carr did run up the score on MSU once. It was after Bobby Williams was being a jerk and Carr just steamrolled MSU and kept shoving the score up. Bobby was fired the next day. I was there, and it was a great day in the stands.
It was only a matter of time before one of their players said something stupid this week. I can't believe it took until Tuesday, to be honest. In regards to a lack of respect, I think the only answer is pre-game hugs (done within the first 15 seconds). Though, that may be difficult to fit everyone in so a group hug during Circle of Terror? Will that suffice to Little Brother? What a joke. As someone else said, just shutup and try to win back to back games against us.
Nobody puts Baby in a corner.
I misread this post as "Nobody puts a baby in Coner!". WHOA! I read this blog way, way too much.
just not the one happening this weekend.
Checking the scores from the last 10 games of the rivalry, it's been a pretty good game to watch.
You must not have gone to UM or grown up in Michigan, anyone from around here can come up with a few examples of little brotherness.
Well, considering that MSU began the game with the ball and Mr. Anderson plays on defense, my only guess is that someone on the Michigan sideline used sign language to insinutate that MSU is a school of ill repute with questionable morals.
i'm fairly confident that if you asked him to elaborate or cite specific examples he couldn't. whenever i hear about a "lack of respect" or "lack of love" i just assume the person quoted is an imbecile. almost always right.
I think they are just trying to drum up some drama to fire them up. He didn't mention any specifics, why? Also, UofM players have been very uncontroversial through the media, while the MSU players are the ones slighting their rival. Hypocrites.
What I always say to this is, give us a good reason to respect you, and we will. Whether it's on the field, in the classroom, or in the community, do something contradictory to your nature which will suggest you have some shred of decency.
It's amazing how they always find a way to tarnish their reputation even more.
you're Michigan State." ~ Herbie
In the article one player is quoted, "I think everybody has a hatred for Michigan." It's almost to say, "Everybody who's anybody..." or "Everybody with a soul..." or "Everybody who isn't an elitist prick..." hates Michigan.
What elitism! Yet this is elitism turned on its head: elitism of the herd. In the herd no one is greater than any other. Mediocrity is the rule and any exception to that rule --whether better or worse-- is baaaaaad. Let's all play nice and be friends, right Sparty? WRONG! This is football! There are winners and there are losers.
Perhaps this alleged lack of respect is well-deserved. Comments like that point to "Yes!"
I didn't address this quote b/c I just figured that everyone hates Michigan b/c Michigan is good/great (historically) and pretty much any team we've played more than a handful of times has a losing record against us, so of course we aren't well liked and even hated. Additionally, Michigan gets plenty of national attention, like the Yankees or Lakers or Celtics or Cowboys, and b/c of that everyone hates/resents them. All that being said, I couldn't as easily explain away the "Michigan doesn't respect us, and I could tell after 15 seconds," remark.
Typical pregame comments:
UofM player: 'This is not a 1-3 team, it is Michigan State and we are going to get their best'
MSU player: 'everybody hates UofM because they are so arrogant. They put us down so much. It is easy to hate UofM'
MSU is full of a lot of DRAMA QUEENS that pretend to be getting insulted while throwing out insults.
and Nietzsche is rolling over in his mustachioed grave.
"It's not a 1-3 team, it's Michigan State."
Respect? I guess it could be taken both ways...
haha, I hadn't read it that way (partly since the second half of the quote precludes it) but I like it. I think the full quote should have been:
"This isn't a 1-3 team, this is Michigan State--they're still going to *somehow* manage to collapse going into the second half of the season. How that will work when you're only 1-3 so far, I don't know, but it might include forfeitting ahead of time instead of actually playing the game."
Anybody else think Michigan State's piped in RAWK music should include Aretha Franklin's R-E-S-P-E-C-T?
Which explains everything we are talking about.
Oh wait, did they finally drop those 300 movie clips from their big screen yet?
When he says "he realized" why he hates Michigan within 15 seconds, he means he remembered what his coach told him to say within 15 seconds, which impressed Dantonio, obviously, because he expected it to take him 30 seconds to remember.
How they run offensive plays, I have no idea...
I don't believe this guy could tell he didn't like Michigan after only 15 seconds. There is no way anyone on their team can count that high. This is pure speculation on his part.
Holy sh!t we're halfway there!
Is all the Sparty backtracking. For the last year all we read was how this Sparty team was headed for a 9-3 or 10-2 season (even Angelique Chengelis had them up that high). Lots of players coming back, this geat coach who had turned around their culture of losing, and a very favorable schedule.
Now, four weeks in, and PFFFFFFfffft. On other boards, they're all, "Hey! WE never said we were going to be great" or "Hey, WE thought we'd finish third in the conference" or "Hey! We're young and inexperienced" HAHAHA these guys are a trip.
And OH YEAH: they were going to clobber Michigan and the Hillbilly Coach Big Time.
From the fans' perspectives, you have UM going in at 4-0, them limping in at 1-3, and Michigan fans nervous as hell, with many predicting a Sparty win.
I think what the Sparty player is doing is just passing along the gas that comes from Sparty Nation about UM "arrogance"--not the players or any of UM's coaches. And I don't get it. Yeah, UM fans hate 'em and talk shit, but my feeling is we are loathe to jump up and down screaming about how we're going to pummel them because we're looking at all the circumstances surrounding this week's game. Yet, there they are, telling the world about how big, bad, mean Michigan doesn't take time out of their busy schedules to give every Sparty a foot massage.
Pathetic. Please, just this once, do ME a favor, Rich Rod and UM: Kill them.
happen during the kickoff ...
so we must have offended him by not allowing his kick returner to score a td ... that thing called tackling must be pretty offensive lil bro
Apparently it is, their defense hasn't done it yet this year!
we never offered 90-97% of them.
I mean, if they want to be disrespected, we're certainly capable of it. We can do that if that's how they want to be treated.
i love dantanio because he epitomizes sparty's "little man" complex by picking fights that go unacknowledged and being angry at michigan for no apparent reason. i never say bad things about state because its understood. the students go there because they can't come here, there players go there because they didn't get offered here, and their school sucks because they're stuck in the same state with us.
I wonder if Dantanio is even preparing for the game this week or if he is in Indy stalking Mike Hart? He is probably following him around, taking pictures etc. If State is not prepared this is the reason. It is Dantanio's Single White Female obsession with Mike Hart. That being said I hope RR does run up the score. Though, realisticly I see the game being very close. Another cardiac special.
blame those that make them feel that way for their complex. It is like a beer goggle girl calling the hot chick a bitch when she has done nothing but be Hot! It's not the hot chicks fault you can't drink diet coke and stay away from the drive through. It not the hot chick......sorry.
It is not UM's fault that Sparty is second rate. They just are. Quoting Tombstone:
"A man like Sparty’s got this big ol empty hole in him, and he can never beat enough hockey players or tip over enough cars to fill it.
What’s he want?
For being born."
Dantonio is just trying to get them fired up. Their season is pretty much over seeing how most of them thought they'd win at least 9 games. This is their bowl game.
At least he didn't say that everyone kills and steals from him
double post my bad
So these mighty Spartans are named for soldiers who maintained sexual realtionships with boys. Wow!
I have been waiting for all the talking to cease. I have been waiting for a return to normalcy. I have been patiently waiting for October 3. I have heard enough about Toledo, 3-8. I have heard enough about MSU program being on the rise, and UM on the decline. I have heard enough about MSU New Years Day Bowl Plans. Kick Off Already!
And really, who cares. I don't respect MSU. Their football team shouldn't garner much respect because they can't sustain a good level of play, and their fan base is a little crazy to say the least.