i refuse to even consider this a possibility
MSU @ ND...who ya got?!
Since 85 people participated, including you, you really can't call this a "redundant thread." Besides, this one is "who ya got" as oppossed to "who ya rooting for;" the two questions are totally different.
ND 35, MSU 17.
I think ND must win this game to salvage any sort of season they could have. The desperation, being at home, and MSU's weak OL and general overrated-ness leads me to pick ND 31 - MSU 27
It's a Battle of the Overrateds!
Can I predict the final score to be Meteor 1, ND 0, MSU 0?
ND looked very good in our game, and I think they recover after a tough loss last week.
ND - 31 MSU - 21
At some point, ND may stop the turnovers and be successful. Is it this week? I really don't like either team, but the thought of watching Kelly's head become hundreds of pieces makes my day the most.
MSU 35, ND 31.
ND will eventually run out of bullets to shoot itself in the foot with and start actually winning games. I suspect it starts this week. ND 38 MSU 24.
I understand. No I don't.
Your subject line score and the score in your post don't match. You even pick a different winner.
notredame realizes they.r a very.good team and don't commit.more than 2 turnovers, and Msu's d Wont know what hit em.
Both teams can go fuck themselves, but ill say ND 34-31.
I hate ND more but I want Msu to lose. They can't keep choking in the red zone. They just can't.
ND: 37 MSU: 31
I think ND is going to take this one.
I'll enjoy either way since one of them will lose.
Normally, I'd dismiss this game and hope they both lose. That's not the case this year. I want to see MSU start the Irish off 0-3 mostly because I would like to see MSU and UM undefeated going into week 7.
MSU - 30
ND - 21
I'm rooting for ND for Irish's sake (first time ever for a team outside the B1G vs a B1G opponent) ...but I can't take/bet on a team that chokes like that - I just don't think regression to the mean applies when choking is your mode of being.
MSU-42 ND31 Cousins carves up Gray over the shoulder style instead of jump balls.
You were rooting for Ohio in its national championship games?
B1G ueber alles...
I respect an honest Ohio...and dated a Sparty. Life is complicated.
Because I hate them both sooooo much! I'll go with little brother and a couple of touchdowns. I think MSU will exploit the same thing we did. They will throw it down the field on the Irish.
I don't think it will be that close.
MSU 24 to ND 7
Cousins' interception prone senior year begins in earnest this game - 4 picks.
ND - 33
MSU - 24
I don't think this one will ever be close. I happen to think that Notre Dame is a pretty damn good team. I also think that State is fraudulent.
Irish 34 State 13
I agree with this. I think ND just shuts it down and wins easy 35-13.
Agreed. This game could get ugly fast. ND 42 - MSU 10. MSU secondary will be exposed.
ND = 27
MooU = 20
votes for the domers 34-30
I like ND even with -5 point spread.
and wins rather easily... Rees will get a break from the turnovers and realize he has more than Floyd.
Notre Dame 34
I'll be rooting for a 0-0 tie that goes to 36 OTs before the games is called after the last 2 water boys are hurt and neither team can field 11 players.
won't sparty be ranked *lower* when we beat them?
I want ND to win so sparty can be ranked higher when we beat them!
I want MSU to win but I think ND will fix their turnover problems and win a lower scoring game
Kelly gives a speech reminiscent of Pacino in Any Given Sunday and the Irish dominate the game.
badass post lol.
ND is my least favorite team (I was at M in the early Holtz years) but Sparty rage is running feverishly high in my department here at work. We need to calm the waters so I guess I want ND to win only because we beat them and they are already 0-2. Would really like a blow-out as well - maybe like the MSU-Iowa game last year.
However, I will predict ND 31, MSU 23.
Don't forget we are still in competition with ND for all-time CFB winning percentage. They are just a few thousandths of a point behind us.
Looking at their schedule, they could easily finish the season with more wins than us, despite starting 0-2. We need ND to lose to everyone they play. We can take care of Sparty ourselves.
This is my thinking exactly. Every ND loss puts more distance between us in the all time win percentage race. Sadly I suspect ND will win, but I'd prefer that they don't.
Or, the sinkhole.
I went with "the terrorists" last year in response to this question, and the responses I got... well, they were not pleasant.
Irish pull ahead late 35 to 24
I want ND so we can see msu fans' heads explode for a change
MSU is the more complete team and takes care of its business.
Sparty 42, ND 28
The conference will really look weak if MSU loses, so for the sake of the B1G's reputation, I'll have to grit my teeth and root for them.
That would guarantee that the losing coach's head would actually explode. It would almost set the stage for some sort of macabre rivalry trophy game. Winning team's trophy is the intact head of their coach.
ND is not going to be able to stop MSU's offense from moving the ball and scoring. ND will come out early with 8 men in the box and MSU will respond by passing early and often and will go directly after #4 in ND's secondary. After watching Cousins pick ND's secondary apart for most of the first half, ND will have to retreat into more zone and nickel coverage, at which point MSU will run the ball down their throats. ND's only chance is to outscore MSU in a shootout, which means Rees (and maybe Crist) will end up throwing multiple interceptions. Bottom line: MSU, which has the better offense and defense and is an all around better football team, will win this one by double digits and the score will be closer than the game.
I think Sparty is a good team, but their terrible O-line does not match up well with a dominant front seven for the irish. Also, they lost a lot in the secondary and are facing an outstanding passing team. I'm going with ND in a surprising rout.
MSU 38 ND 35 F/2OT
so I don't have to classy and hope state gets crushed. Yes Notre Dame can be annoying but state fans are even worse because they have tendency to be pyromaniacs and are experts in property damage. Plus I have be around them far more often.
I see a 31- 28 win for the Irish.
ND covers. Sparty reveals that their O line is going to be a problem.
31 to 24 Notre Dame.
Sparty needs to be put back into his place. Therefore, it is easy for me to root for ND in this one. Besides, we own ND this year -- we still have to work on Sparty.
At this point, I would love to see ND's season completely implode so I will be (half-heartedly) rooting for Sparty.
Given the series history, I think MSU wins a close game: MSU 31 ND 28
I am so conflicted. I so want sparty to get knocked down a peg....BUT..... tears are a fine wine and if we let them age a few more weeks they will be oh so much sweater on the 15th if they are undefeated till then.
I'm really praying for a fball and bbal clean sweep this year. would make my year
They are capable of scoring 45 points a game if they don't turn it over 26 times. State will be shell shocked. Just like us(yes, we were, admit it).......but ND will not give the ball away and MSU doesn't have DenardX!
I want MSU to lose for this reason: I've never seen a more sour fan base after the UTL game. You would think they lost the game. Every MSU fan was shitting on ND saying they suck and UM will not beat a quality team etc etc. Considering this, if ND beats them, it will be oh so zyatisfying. I think ND is the more talented team, but MSU is the more diciplined team, so I agree with everyone else saying that if ND finally reduces the amount of turnovers, they will win this game comfortably. I don't think the MSU offense is good enough to handle the ND front 7 and I don't think their defense is good enough to stop Floyd and his minions.
What you said exactly... i have about 5 friends from college that are MSU fans' and all I saw on their facebook pages days after the game was about how ND fucking sucks..
Their D is soo bad and so is their joke offense.. Which in turn makes us a pathetic team..
This is the reason why i want ND to smash MSU.. I think ND wins this by 2 touchdowns IF and only IF they don't turn it over
I think that ND playing tougher previous competition will help them out as will playing at home. I think that ND's defense exposes State's still suspect offense line just enough to take this one: 28-14.
Given MSU's history of winning against ND (esp. in South Bend), and the fact that Notre Dame has all the pressure, I will take Sparty here. While ND is talented, it is hard to believe that the media and fan pressure for them to win will actually help them when it comes to turnovers. MSU looks pretty solid all around, and I do not think that ND has the pass-rushing skill to take advantage of MSU's biggest weakness, which is its O Line.
more friends that like ND than MSU, so ND plz, so no more sad pandas
wait to see sparty have to throw the ball all day coming from behind and expose Cousins for what he really is, an average good game managing QB. ND will get out big and stop the run early, and it will be so niceafter listing to all my state friends talk about how terrible ND is.
But think MSU will curbstomp them.
Im thinking 34-21 Irish.
Cousins is too good to be held out the whole game, but he can't throw on the run worth a damn, compared to the guys ND has been chasing around so far this season.
I think ND has BCS quality firepower on offense, once the turnovers slow down even a little.
Defensively, MSU just doesn't look that good to me. Sure they blanked Florida agricultrural tech or whoever, but those guys looked like Schnellenberger was toting the rock for them, not just coaching. I felt all game that FIU (?) was more to blame for their troubles than MSU was.
Admittedly, I didnt watch every snap with the fervor I do for UM, but that was my impression.
ND, despite having substantial talent, is the Midwest version of the Hurricanes: 4 and 5 star talent, 1 star coaching.
Tommy Rees throws 2 interceptions, yanked for Crist midway 2rd quarter.
Brian Kelly: Held down by asst coaches for an excorcism in 4th quarter.
Michael Floyd gets 150+ receiving yards again
Sparty will not know what hit them this week. Kelly will remain calm and the domers will roll. 42-17 Wait I forgot about the 5 turnovers! ND 42 Sparty 38
Personally, I hope ND either beats or crushes State, not to worried about which, both would have benefits. There are a surprisingly large number of Sparty fans up here in the Yoop, and I am getting very sick of hearing what an "elite, national program" they are. Very few ND fans up here, so not to worried about their ego being re-inflated. I'm going ND 34 MSU 28...go nd??
I want ND to be a decent team, to give our victory over them some validation. They can't start out 0-3.
Turnovers will be the major factor here (as it was for ND in our game and the USF game). If ND can manage to keep their turnovers minimal then I can't see them losing. That offense is too powerful and the d is too strong.
ND will outgain Sparty by more than 100 yards, but be negative on turnovers again.
Sparticans 31 ND 20
Notre Dame cleans up the turnovers and wins easily at home over a grossly overrated MSU team. Seriously, how is MSU going to stop Floyd? Plus, ND's front seven are going to tee off on an immobile Cousins--especially after the frustration of chasing Denard around last week.
ND - 42
MSU - 24
MSU wins by faking a field goal, again.
MSU wins by TKO early in the 4th round
I always root for the B1G and will never ever root for Notre Dame.
MSU eats their lunch. 35-17
I have ND in a blowout 35 14 with no turnovers.
Then I have MSU in a close one 38 - 34, in a turnover filled afternoon for ND.
If ND can hold onto the ball they are one of the dealiest teams in the country. Sparty will be thier first victim.
MSU played no one. Looked terrible against YSU but was much better against FAU(then again, it's FAU).
ND was statistically dominant except for turnovers.
My feeling is ND won't turn the ball over(maybe 1 time) against MSU and win big against MSU. They're a better team and would be 2-0 if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot.
Interesting matchup to watch for is BJ Cunningham vs. Gary Gray(what kind of parent would name him Gary Gray???). BJ Cunningham was excellent in the first two games and is Cousin's favorite target this season.
Gary Gray physical therapy, duh!
It will make our win more meaningful and I hate MSU.
Can't stand either team. I'm not rooting for either team. But after the last 15 years, you have to like Sparty in this game regardless of the pressure Notre Dame is under.
It will be nice to see Kelly explode yet again and he will. But fear not, Irish loving media. ND will rebound next week and beat the cupcakes that follow until November. Then you can go back to giving them all the undeserved hype they got to start the season.
MICHIGAN STATE - 35
NOTRE DAME - 24
I think ND is going to slaughter them
ND 34, MSU 13
My heart says Irish but my head says Sparty in heartbreaking fashion, 24-22.
Sparty tears are such a sweet sweet beverage.
Msu kicks a field goal in OT. ND tries a fake field goal but is unsuccessful.
ND 38 - MSU 28
Haven't the Spartans owned ND in South Bend the last few meetings? If my memory serves me right (and it could fail me at any time). The wind is out of the sails of ND for the moment. Time for MSU to get theirs. ND 31 MSU 17.
I will root for State mainly because my brother, who is a State alum and a huge slappy, is going to the game with high hopes. Unfortunately for him, the Irish will win big.
I think this game will reveal a lot about both teams.
I got the Spartans.
Irish are an emotional wreck. They will get ambushed early. They'll recover, catch back up and maybe even win, but the game wont get outside the number
Besides, I always root for the Big 10 in these spots, especially against Notre Fucking Dame.
My guess is that an ND team desperate to actually have a season wins a close one.
ND 35, MSU 31
If turnovers become an issue for ND:
MSU 35, ND 17
Who the F..... Cares !!!
F.... Michigan St.
like ND is going to get jiggy with it all over the Spartans.
This is what I want to see. I also want to see Notre Dame embarass state 42-5.
I passed on it on my card because so many things point to ND winning, except for the thought that MSU is a better team overall and I think Kelly is in over his head.
I think ND falls flat after its "biggest game of the year" so far that went horribly wrong for them. MSU struggles covering Floyd and he gets more yards and TD's than he got against Michigan, but Dantanio has another trick up his sleeve and pulls this one out late.
At all. I know for certain I won't be watching
I know history and the respective performances to date indicate it will likely be a close, even-matched, and probable Spartan victory; however, I just don't see this one being all that close. ND is a much more talented team overall and - if not for some serious bone head mistakes - would be undefeated right now. When I look at the Top-20 rankings, State looks totally out of place and over-hyped to me. Maybe it's my maize-and-blue glasses, but I think ND wins fairly convincingly and rights their season. I think (or hope!) State gets totally embarressed, simply because they honestly have some of the most assinine fans I have ever encountered.
ND wins 42 - 17
I think people will be wondering if MSU actually played 6 guys on offense because their whole O-line will be basically non-existant. Even the bohemoth Nix will casually walk past the C and G and destroy Cousins a la Marcell Dareus.
In all seriousness, ND makes no mistakes and Sparty implodes and gets ready for another 6-6 season losing to big brother and getting their ass beat by Iowa time and time again.
ND will be a recruiting powerhouse whether or not they win this game. They're ND, and they'll always be a tough battle for recruits. Same reason we still were the last few years. Tradition.
MSU, on the other hand, can be much less of a recruiting impediment if they go back to being 6-6 every year. If they start to get a few seasons in a row where they beat good teams, they will start to compete more for recruits. Therefore, MSU will be hurt more, from a recruiting standpoint, by losing than ND will. Plus, ND is already 0-2 and we already beat them.
ND has been dragged off their high horse already. We need the same to be done for MSU, and the sooner the better.
I would love to see ND win 52-0 but they always play close games so I will say:
Think ND will win.
it's better for our team if ND wins out and we need all teams that we beat to win out.
This is one where you just cannot be sure how good any of us are until the game is played IMO.
I will go with ND 29 and MSU 28
A tough call:
1. ND wins will mean:
(a) good things for our relative ranking on computer polls - probably not important since we aren't contending for the mythic NC.
(b) makes us look better for bragging rights by the commutative property: A beats B who beat C...good for around the state with your State friends and frenemies.
(c) have to listen to the insufferable Lou Holtz sputter on and on about ND...and how they can go 10-2 and make it to a Jan. 1 game...reaching a point where I have wonder who is worse: Craig James, Jesse Palmer, or Lou Holtz
(d) have to hear how we were "lucky" - but we get to use that old favorite retort "Scoreboard, look at the scoreboard 35-31"
2. MSU wins will mean:
(a) the nation of the deluded may actually finally realize that beating ND is no longer national news, and the Ara Parseghian is no longer the head coach, and that Bob Davie may not have been the devil incarnate and that Tyrone Willingham may not have been the worst hire at South Bend and that many mistakes have been made...something most people have already realized long ago.
(b) we'd have to listen to how the "little brother isn't little any more" - after three years, gotten used to it.
(c) we'd have to worry about MSU actually becoming established. They've always had good teams here and there but could never consolidate their gains. A good year would be followed by a 6-6 year ...a legitimate worry. If Brady Hoke can beat MSU and reverse the trend that would be a bigger win in long term importance than beating ND - not as exciting or fun or entertaining but probably more strategically important.
(d) another indirect sign about worries about our running game. Outside of the almighty and powerful DR, there wasn't much of a running game. If MSU gashes ND on the ground, it suggests we have to wait a while before Hoke's power running game appears...He has at least 3 years to get this going. It is just sad that we can't get a complement to DR. Not a Heisman trophy candidate back, just someone who can go for 500-750 yards would be terrific at this point.
I want Notre Dame to win. Big. 42-10
ND has 4 turn overs and loses
ND needs it more and thus, will blow it. MSU 27, ND 20
Mid Michigan O'Wolverine Saturday.....Go Irish!!!!
BTW, I listen to this every year during the week before the ND-MSU game, and it never gets old. Priceless.
ND finds a way in a close game to pull it out. Sparty give it their all
We need ND to go undefeated the rest of the year (please). So I will pick ND to win 35-31.
Ill take Sparty with the points.
therefore ND wins by two TD's.
ND 31 MSU 28
moved to Vegas in June and I'm taking "Sparty"...
Course, I still think Sparty is gonna lose the game, just gonna
be one close game and the boys in Vegas are giving out +5 if
I take MSU...yup... lookes good to me... final score..
Notre Dame 27 MSU 24
It's a no lose bet. If ND beats them by 6+ I still win the ability to talk a little smack to the Spartan's in my office.
notre dame finally solves the turnovers and limits them to one pick by rees. state keeps it close through the 3rd but nd pulls away with a couple of big plays in the 4th quarter. notre dame 38-msu 27.
ND 35 - Moo U 21
MSU has only gained 347 yards on 86 carries with a long of 23. Given the level of competition they've played in the first 2 weeks, it doesn't look promising going into Notre Dame. If they can't establish the run game, this won't be close. Kirk Cousins will have to play outstanding to keep them in this game. I don't see it happening. The MSU Defense didn't record a sack vs. a Youngstown State team that threw 35 times. Rees has made some mistakes, but if they don't pressure him, they're in trouble.
I personally think the only thing MSU has going for them is ND's tendency to shoot themselves in the foot. I'm not saying that WON'T happen. I just don't think it will.
I hope the Spartans beat them on a last second play and come into A2 undefeated.
More IMPORTANTLY you guys should never root for ND. seriously. They are arrogant and always overrated.
Finally Fuck ND and Brian Kelly.. It least we have Kelly to hate just as much as Fat Charlie which actually surprises me.
GO BLUE. The Team baby.