MSU injuries NOT an excuse

Submitted by m_go_T on

According to Mark Dantonio, MSU injuries are not going to be used as a crutch (i.e., excuse) for their poor play.   To paraphrase:  

"Injuries are not an excuse.  To be clear though, we do have a lot of injuries.  So if we were to lose this week, we should be allowed to claim injuries as the main reason, but we won't, because that would be excusing the loss because of injuries, which we don't or won't do, becuase we don't use injuries as excuses...but we have tons of injuries."  

 

Link below; It's Drew Sharp and its drivel.  FL;DR (freep link; didn't click):  Michigan State is very injured but not going to use injuries as an excuse (Spoiler: They are setting up the injury excuse).  

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/drew-sharp/2015/10/12/drew…

This has been the common narrative throughout the last two weeks.  Not an excuse, but we are super injured.  Just to pull some quotes from the linked to drivel:

"Pardon the pun," coach Mark Dantonio said Saturday night following the Spartans' 31-24 win, "but we can't use it as a crutch."

"He was hurting out there, and everybody recognized it," Dantonio said about Kieler's determination. "We tried to get him out a little bit, but I know that he wound up playing at the end as well. He's a tough guy, and he just kept playing."

 

"You keep thinking to yourself that it can't get any worse, and then it does," said middle linebacker Riley Bullough.

IMO I can see it getting worse next week.  But to be clear, if it does, it has nothing to do with injuries.  

 

ijohnb

October 12th, 2015 at 9:51 AM ^

Rutgers game?  Just curious because I really don't think Allen will play, at least not for long if he does.  His ankle did not appear to be connected to the rest of his body when they were carrying him off.  Conklin will probably play but Allen shouldn't just based on how that looked.

Ronnie Kaye

October 12th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^

How the hell do you know that? It's one think to say Conklin and Price (both question marks for Rutgers) will be there, but Allen was carted off for godsakes.

HAIL-YEA

October 12th, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^

LJ Scott was obviosly not hurt, he was on some secret suspension. When Dantonio got desperate in the 2nd half he played him and he looked 100% Price, Conklin, and probably Kieler and Thomas will play this week.

They have had a lot of injuries but not all the season ending kind. Most of them are just for a few games which plenty of teams deal with. Michigan has missed time from Mone,Stribling,Ojamudia,Smith,Kerridge,B. Cole, D Thomas,Shallman, Mccray,J Lewis and Wheatley Jr. from its 2 deep yet you haven't heard a peep our of us because we consider this a lucky year so far.(knock on wood) They experience what most teams go through and what they have been lucky enough to avoid and they have been crying about it since week 2. Sorry but I don't give a shit. They can use any excuse they want after we take their season from them, no one will care.

SpikeFan2016

October 12th, 2015 at 10:20 AM ^

Half of these people are not injured!!!!!

 

There is a massive difference between injury (literally not able to play) and being banged up (not 100%, but can still play). 

 

We have a lot of banged up players too, you just don't hear about it because we are not whiny excuse-makers!

Scarlatina

October 12th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^

I can try to re-organize based on severity of injury, but it will be pretty subjective:
  1. RJ Williamson (starting S) - Torn bicep, out-for-season

  2. Ed Davis (starting LB) - Torn ACL, out-for-season

  3. Vayante Copeland (starting CB) - Neck injury, out-for-season

  4. Dennis Finley (backup LT) - Broken leg, out-for-season

  5. Darian Hicks (starting CB) - Mono, returned against Rutgers... left game with possible concussion

  6. Madre London (co-starting RB) - Leg injury, left Rutgers game

  7. Jack Allen (starting C) - Ankle injury, left Rutgers game

  8. Jack Conklin (starting LT) - Knee injury, missed last 2 weeks

  9. Josiah Price (starting TE) - Ankle injury, missed last 2 weeks

  10. Kodi Kieler (starting RT) - Knee injury, missed 1 week, very limited last week

  11. Lawrence Thomas (starting DE) - Left Rutgers game with injury

  12. LJ Scott (co-starting RB) - Ankle injury, only played two series against Rutgers

1-7 are almost certainly out next week, nothing released on Jack Allen yet, but it looked pretty serious when he was carried off the field. 8 and 9 will be a game-time decision. 10-12 will probably play next week.

UMForLife

October 12th, 2015 at 10:53 AM ^

Yep. They have injuries. But not everyone is not going to be able in the bench. We have two major injuries. One guy was kicked out. Another guy left because of other issues. Those are major contributors to our team. Smith is a little gimpy. Other RB is also a little gimpy. New coaches. New QB. It is not as devastating as theirs, but we have our share of injuries and offseason and in-season issues. S*** happens.

Perkis-Size Me

October 12th, 2015 at 9:24 AM ^

Injuries or no injuries, those guys are going to come out on Saturday guns blazing. They prepare for this game all year no matter how good or bad we are.

Be ready for an all out war.



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ijohnb

October 12th, 2015 at 9:54 AM ^

you may want to stock up on some booze early this week.  I admittedly have been surprised by some of State's struggles but I think this game is going to be a knock down drag out war.

Engin77

October 12th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^

I'm thinking Oregon must be on that list as well. Where can I apply to get the three plus hours I wasted watching "the college football playoff preview" in week 2?

ypsituckyboy

October 12th, 2015 at 9:24 AM ^

LeVert and Walton being hurt last year wasn't allowed to be an excuse, nor was the fact that MSU was missing Payne and one or two other dudes the year before. No one remembers who wasn't playing.

ijohnb

October 12th, 2015 at 9:59 AM ^

Payne was out.  Dawson was out because he punched a wall.  Appling played but he had a messed up wrist which most doctors would have diagnosed as "sucks at shooting."

Also, McGary was out but Dick Vitate chose not to mention it because, ya know.

Mr. Yost

October 12th, 2015 at 9:25 AM ^

I have Dantonio's exact quote...

"We just didn't play well, hats off to Michigan...they came out and took care of business. But I'm proud of my guys, we're battling through a number of injuries and the guys that played...played hard. We'll look to improve on this and get better next week."

It's just too easy.

flashOverride

October 12th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

"Pardon the pun, but we can't use it as a crutch..."

- heh, brilliant, really. "I'm not going to talk about injuries, but, yo: injuries, y'all. And look how endearing and subtle I am in doing it!"

turd ferguson

October 12th, 2015 at 9:31 AM ^

You know what, we've had - and have - injuries, too.  Bryan Mone, Mario Ojemudia, De'Veon Smith, Drake Johnson, Channing Stribling, Joe Kerridge, Brian Cole, Chase Winovich, Dymonte Thomas, Wyatt Shallman, Mike McCray, Tyrone Wheatley Jr., and I'm sure a bunch of other guys I'm not remembering.  

MSU's injuries have been more damaging this season, but 1) that's why depth is an important part of football and 2) it's not like MSU has been downplaying its success in recent years because it stayed relatively healthy.  Injuries happen.

Avon Barksdale

October 12th, 2015 at 9:37 AM ^

We won't use Devin Gardner on one leg the past two years as an excuse either. Or Jake Butt on one leg. Or Drake Johnson on one leg. Or Jabrill Peppers on no legs. Or Desmond Morgan on no legs. Or Amara Darboh on a torn ACL in preseason. Or ______ ... You get the point.

Injuries are a part of the game. Deal with it.

umfan323

October 12th, 2015 at 9:38 AM ^

Its a game we should clearly dominate and win, however I'm nervous I don't know why but I think it will be closer than it should be..

julesh

October 12th, 2015 at 9:41 AM ^

I'm nervous about every game. I was nauseated right before kickoff on Saturday. I'll probably actually throw up this Saturday. But I do take comfort from knowing that my level of nerves doesn't seem to affect the outcome of the game.