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MSU Game Open Thread
And they actually get better during the year. Not Michigan. It's been in slow decline ever since RichRod left. And I can't believe I'm saying that.
We're going to see the first Delay of Game penalty while running a hurry up in football history
Why do refs allow MSU to get away with that shit every week (except against ND)?
How dare he listen to us
wanted to see pointless PA fakes that only cause your already besieged QB to hold the ball longer.
First day off I've had in 12 days and I wish I was fucking working.
Keep it up Devin...
A hurry up spread actually working? Please go away.
Hoke and company preach toughness, but Dantonio and Narduzzi actually get their players do play tough. I thought our players had more stars....
does the same thing...
Just flipped to the ND vs Navy game. It sure is comforting watching Navy's oline push ND all over the field. WTF our oline sucks.
no problem with that run for a first down...
What I find most humerous about all the complaining is that NOBODY will get fired. Here's what's going to happen. EVERYONE will stay, the team will improve, and by 2015 - 2016 Michigan will be one of the best teams in the nation. Simple rebuilding. But you morons cannot understand that. You're too thick.
That's it. We just rebuilding.
And always will be.
We need to start printing up T-shirts "Returning to Glory."
Oh, wait, that might already be taken.
How many times have I heard this?
What the fuck are you basing that on? Or are you just high?
You're going to KEEP hearing it until we're not. When OUR roster is again loaded with upperclassmen, then we won't be rebuilding any longer. Simple.
could make the same excuses. That is all they are at this point. Losing in this fashion is unacceptable in year 3. I am not ready to fire the whole staff at this point, but my confidence in whether they will ever get Michigan back to elite status is highly shaken at this point. Funk needs to be left in East Lansing though, there are other o-lines around the country dealing with youth, but yet they don't look this horrible.
You keep saying that. Wait until this year, next year, three years from now. A good coach uses what he has (especially talent like Michigan always has) and wins immediately and continues the trend. This was the year we were supposed to win big . Or is it next year? Now you say 2015 or 2016? That only shows a lack of good coaching if a program takes that long to be good.
It does NOT show a lack of good coaching, it shows how far down Michigan was when that staff took over. Again, if you cannot see it, you're not looking. I don't think Michigan has the talent that you think they have. I wish they did, but they DO NOT. Everyone thinks there is someone out there who could do better, and they discount the roster issues. Fine, but if they don't get solved, the next guy will struggle too. Then the next guy as well, and you idiots will be wringing your hands and saying, how about the NEXT guy. You're going to take the program down a very dangerous path if you do that. We're in good hands, just be patient.
Somebody like Saban or Meyer could win win this team. Easily.
And you know that how?
And win games. It doesn't take them 6 years to "rebuild" a program.
When, specifically, have they had to deal with the roster issues that Michigan has had to deal with. What was the roster like when Meyer took for UF from Zook or OSU from Tressel? What about when Saban took over LSU or Bama? You think you're making a valid comparison, but with just a little research you'll realize that you're totally off base.
Pretty much sums it up.
I have to say - and I'm going to jinx it here - but it's amazing how well............nevermind Devin just threw a pick. Wow, I jinxed it before even typing it. Screw me then
Thanks man, that really made me laugh out loud. At this point, that's all I can do besides drink more.
The slacker older brother who still lives in our parents basement and they are the successful younger brother who made something of themselves
What a fucking joke...
Honestly, can't blame Devin for anything anymore. He has been through a meat grinder. Shouldn't even be standing up at this point.
The icing on the cake! Knew we couldn't go without one of those!
And I fucking hate Michigan State more than Ohio. And that's saying a lot
to make Spartie look even better.
PI. Two hands in the chest while the ball is in the air before turning is PI.
him buy 6 feet
Then, all you whiney bitches will be right back on here proclaiming you knew it all along. You want change, well you had it and look where it took us. You're asking for ALL OVER AGAIN, and you're fucking morons! You idiots know NOTHING about how to build a football program. You CANNOT just keep hiring and firing coaches without rebuilding the talent base. It's not there. Get over it, stop being such FUCKING PUSSIES!
Yeah guys, watch out for Mr internet tough guy here. He'll tell you how to build a program.
At least I am not a BITCH like you! All you jackasses do is fucking whine and whine and whine. You NEVER do an research, you never actually look at the causes, you just want blood and change for change sake. You know nothing, and you're asking to destroy the thing that you claim to love because the guys charged with bringing it back aren't doing it fast enough for your taste. Maybe it was farther from being what you want than you think.
Take a step back, man. No use for all the namecalling.
Wait a second. They've been calling me names, why no admonishment of them?
I didn't call you anything except tough guy, which you're clearly pretending to be.
I am not pretending to be a tough guy. I am saying, as I have said all along, that Michigan is suffering from roster issues, not coaching issues. I take exception to people saying that Michigan should fire Hoke when he's doing a great job in rebuilding the roster. What's so hard about that?
You called people bitches and pussies. Then you called me a bitch. You're an internet tough guy who wouldn't talk the same shit if we were in the same room so go fuck yourself. Roster issues might explain the loss, but not a manhandling like this. Just keep drinking the cool aid tough guy
Have you run out of ideas and just resorted to name calling now? I don't give a fuck what you think. You don't know shit, nobody gives a fuck about your opinion. Keep talking shit anonymously if it makes you feel good but you're not worth my time.
Anonymous? That's my name there dude...I think YOU'RE the one that is anonymous.
Where are you tough guy? Ann Arbor by any chance?
Why, you coming for me?
I'd meet up for a beer to see if you'd call me a pussy to my face, sure.
And if I did?
I doubt you would sten. you come across as an internet tough guy, not a real one.
I still don't see how you think it's cool to call people names on the internet, but hey, that's just me
That's not what I asked you. What if I sat right in front of you, sipping my beer, and called you a pussy to your face? What would you (the guy calling me and internet tough guy) do then? I am curious.
Hard to say, but you'd probably lose a few teeth. It doesn't matter tho; you're a tough guy on the internet and a whiny litte bitch in real life. Keep pushing the party line and acting like a tough guy on the internet; it suits you
so you're saying that you'd knock my teeth out bacause I called you a pussy to your face, and I am the "internet tough guy." That's very mature dude. But hey, whatever floats your boat. I'll be sure to come visit you when you're in prison for assault.
You don't know me dude, and I know you think you're pretty bad ass, but I certainly am not anymore. I would hope that we could laugh about us both thinking we're gonna brawl over stupid message board crap, have a beer, and enjoy being Michigan fans together. If not, then swing away buddy, I'll take my chances.
Then why call me a bitch and a pussy because we disagree over something? You could say, 'you're dumb' or 'you don't know what you're talking about' or whatever, but without instigation, you jumped right into insulting me. How could you possibly be surprised when I took offense to that.
If you're as old as your response makes you sound, you should've developed a better vocabulary and better arguing skills by now, especially if you went to UM. And finally, people don't go to prison for punching someone. Jail maybe, prison never
I called you a bitch out of frustration. I am sick of people calling for a 3rd year coach -- who is recruiting is ass off and inherited a program coming off its historic low -- to be fired. I suppose some of this carried over from the PSU game when you got all over me -- my bad. I just happen to think that it's bitchly behavior to call for coaches to be fired the way you seem to love to do.
Sorry, I'll come visit you in jail then.
End this sillyness. We both love Michigan football, that should be enough.
Was that an apology? If so, next time just say "sorry I ran out of good arguments and called you names". I don't think hoke should be fired but I think Borges needs to go. Based on your "recruiting his ass off" comment I think you misunderstand my position because Borges doesn't recruit at all. Lastly, it's 'bitchy' behavior, not 'bitchly'.
All that being said, I accept your apology. I'm all for debate without petty name calling. you're entitled to think whatever you want, I can disagree, but I'll try to do it like an adult.
for this team's performance. This team is fucking weak.
And I hope Shane Morris wins the QB job next year. Gardner has no sack.
After wht Devin has been through, can't believe you said that.
that is just a flat out idiotic thing to say. He shouldn't even be standing right now.
Don't be such an asshole. Gardner has gotten crushed this game. Have a little respect for our players
Hey you guys, Navy - Notre Dame looks like a good game.
with their D performance tonight, they should have 40 against anyone. Their offense is still bad. OSU will put it to these guys. OSU has a plus offensive line, and has a full constraint based offense. Indiana did ok vs. MSU, they just don't have the athletes to win their 1v1 battles, OSU does. MSU is a perfect matchup for OSU, OSU 31-6.
Because Urban Meyer will scheme to take advantage of MSU's hyper aggressiveness. That's what he's beat at. If MSU could put up 24 on OSU I would agree with you, but OSU's defensive line is really coming on and I think they'll pressure Cook a ton.
I don't think so. I think both teams are equally coached well, but I think that's the kind of game where better talent will ultimately win out. And OSU has infinitely more talent than MSU.
even though the clock still runs either way
For a TD here - pick 6
And I see our one good win isn't so good. Go Navy!
ha! We're little sister according to the crowd.
Devin has taken a beating out there...
to have that one back; perhaps he thought he had the first down that did look bad..
There are no mods here today - at least not paying attention.
Don't be such a dick. Show some respect. Jeez
Guy has taken a literal beating today, and hasn't come out of the game once. Fucking ridiculous thing to say at the moment.
Gardner received absolutely no help from his offensive line today, which was exactly that: offensive. Gardner was running for his life all day, and still did a great job of taking care of the football, all things considered.
Yeah Gardner missed some throws, but at the end of the day, it would've made minimal difference. You can't execute your gameplan when you have no time to even survey the damn field.
get a whole lot dirtier. Hopefully we can get the ball back, it will be interesting to see what he an do.
At least Shane is about to get some experience against a really good defense. For whatever the hell that is worth
Fuck Funk. Fire Funk.
Hire an offensive consultant.
Do what you have to do. This is not meeting the expectation. Help your team win.
Great, we get to burn Morri's redshirt on a now meaningless game.
Just put in a walk-on and run out the clock.
He's already played, bro.
Not against Akron or UConn, because we weren't good enough to get a big lead. But he did against Central.
So they burned it on some meaningless cameo?
Not one screen
indictment on AL BORGES people. Wake up. The coming years of this offense will feature a statue QB, big RBs, and require 10-15 plays to score. It is 2013, college football is not played this way anymore, like it or not.
we have no marbles.
Time to fire up the netflix with the wife, have a great night everyone!
I can't wait for all the postgame speeches and rhetoric that means fucking nothing.
We talk a better game than anyone, though.
What a fucking joke
We're the nerds. Don't take that from us too!
I thought sparty's time was supposed to be up and it was going to be big 2 and little whatever again.
It is.... in recruiting rankings. As long as we win those, we can always point to some imprecise point in the future where we'll be better. Every year, that point is moved back another year.
About losing recruits (peppers, etc)? I sure am, though I certainly have no info. Why play here if you could play at bama, LSU, or a program like that.
I am. The Big Ten is a shit conference and we haven't even been able to win one title in almost a fucking decade.
Taylor literally didn't even try to make the tackle. Wow....
Very poor effort by Taylor there
What's Hoke's road record now?
6-10 with bowl games.
This is the most disappointing game I've ever seen us play.
It's actually only the fourth most disappointing game we've played in this season alone. sparty is much better than Penn State, and in another dimension from Akron and UConn.
Eh. How many sacks this game?
and to be able to see that after the Penn state fiasco...
See Rodriguez era.
Michigan State slowly taking the game from us, taking charge in the third then dominating in the fourth quarter.
And the team's quit...no mas they say.
God please have them score two more times plzzzzzz... Now u can see the true colors of Joke and company
Total, complete and utter fucking joke.
Can we just refuse a bowl game this year?
that is...bad. I think a bunch of us here on the blog could beat that
that about sums up the day...fucking wrecked us
wipe that fucking blood off your face Lewan...you have earned nothing...you talk talk talk, but you don't back it up.
can't block five guys at once. I don't think he played great today, but when the rest of the line is such a shitshow one guy isn't going to make that big of a difference. Also the talking was going on from the start of the game on both sides.
Fewest rushing yards in the history of the program! Just like the RR era, we keep setting the wrong kinds of records.
Physicalness gets you that... all those platitudes, and we have only gotten worse for it.
the better team won...
There are records and there is performance.
After Akron and UConn, the chorus was "BUT WE'RE STILL UNDEFEATED!"
This team is what it is.
It is the team that barely beat Akron. It is the team that barely beat UConn.
Two of the absolutely worst teams in D1
It is the team that lost to Penn State, who had only 65 (or something) scholarships (nobody has asked if they had only 50, would we have won?).
And it is the team that was blown out by Michigan State. While having a bye week to prepare this abortion of a game plan.
And this is only the beginning of the most difficult part of the schedule. This team is in for a world of butt hurt, particularly at the hands of Ohio State.
This team is worse than last year's. And last year's was worse than the previous year's.
I am not encouraged by the trend. At all.
Shut the blog down for the week. Nothing good about this game at all
Dude shut up. Don't be an asshole. Have some respect.
Gardner got no help from his O-Line today. He spent most of the day running for his life. He can't do anything to execute a gameplan when he has zero time to do it.
He could've played better, but this loss is not on him.
Go drink some water asshole
Last time we'll be ranked for a while. Three years in, not a top 25 team.
There was actually good news to come out of this game. Now that we know we won't win our division, there is no chance for us to lose twice to osu in the same season! Yay!!
Dear Coach Hoke,
1. Eat something.
2. Wear a shirt.
3. Wear a Headset.
as much as I hate this game... I really think we need to stick it out with Hoke for the next few years... that is all...
I am willing to give some of the staff more time, but if that doesn't get somebody fired I don't know what will. I am looking squarely at Funk for obvious reasons, the youth excuse on the o-line only goes so far when you look as horrid as they do upfront.
This coaching staff has hit rock bottom. Almost like the RR days re-lived! If we have a chance to grab Les Miles at the end of this season or next season we should. Hoke may not be up to it. But if we cannot get a big name coach we should let Hoke go through 2016, see if he can turn it around?
RR got criticized for not knowing anything about defense. When will Hoke get criticized for not knowing anything about offense?
It shouldn't fly for this staff when it comes to how horrid the o-line is either. The o-line is literally as bad as the RR led defenses were, that is a sickening thought.
Have you noticed how the last two searches went? Our first two choices "bowed out", declined interest, said no in each case. Les Miles does not want the job. Harbough did not want the job. Schiano did not want the job. I forget who the guy was / guys were the overtures or "rumor-tures" were buzzing about before him. Miles again, but I think was another before RR. So before we fire another coach -- let's consider _realistically_ who may be his replacement and what his first fully matured full cohorts may do in the year or two to come. Personally, I think RR was done -- his fault or no, the forecast had little upside. I see more positive in the forecast for Hoke (& staff). Reasonable people may differ about that, but let's learn from past that we're probably not going to get that huge name guy you want & think is going to make everything perfect by showing up
There would be plenty of coaches that would take the job if we didnt care so fuckin much about being a "michigan man".. Dave Brandon is a fuckin joke too... Being a top tier program like uofm and paying sooo much for a game i expect fuckin excellence not garbage... Urban Meyer comes in and with the same players that went 6-6 the previous year he has managed to stay undefeated... Why? What do they have more?? Easy schedule? Bullshit tired of hearing about it.. They cheat?? Fuck it i rather cheat and enjoy watching some football than be goodie two shoes and SuCk biiig time like we have been..
I like Hoke, the man. I remember watching his presser on MGoBlue and when he said "It's Michigan for Christ's sake!" I was, like, YEAH! I went to Michigan, my dad went to Michigan and my daughter is about to graduate Michigan. My whole family bleeds blue. So we were psyched about the hire - finally a Michigan man!
But the truth is, he's not head coach material. Winning at Ball State and SDSU is NOT the same as winning in the Big Ten. We're recruiting all these "alleged" 4 and 5 stars, and this is how the O line plays? This is how the D plays? It pains me to say this, but Dantonio completely and thoroughly outcoached Hoke today. This is one of the most embarrassing losses I've ever sat through.
WHAT IS THIS LOVE AFFAIR HE HAS WITH TOUSSAINT?!!! Did he successfully pick up one blitz today? Did he ever carry the ball with a sense of purpose? Does he run a 4.9 40?!!
What a colossal waste of talent. Unimaginative and completely predictable play calling. Uninspired defense. At least our kickers made their FGs.
And I'm sorry but he looks like a total buffoon standing out there with a golf shirt on, no headset, out of touch with the 21st century. You don't see Urb, Saban, Dantonio even, walking around without a headset on. This isn't getting better anytime soon. This sucks.
I dont understand this lately also, the same thing has been happening since Hoke has been the coach.. I understand he doesnt want crush these kids dreams and doesnt want to ruin their confidence BUT when u perform this bad like Tousaint has, why not put in Green? The same thing happened when Denard was around, no matter how bad he played Hoke would never pull him out