I was at Spartan Stadium, and the first time they showed the UM - Nebraska score, it was tied. People just kinda whispered to each other. The next time they showed the score, UM had a big lead and to my surprise, 90% of the people there cheered. It was... weird and surprising.
It seems like the fanbase isn't quite as petty about its hate for UM as Dantonio is. Or maybe winning is mellowing everyone in East Lansing.
Maybe they like knowing they
...Or they were excited to
...Or they were excited to get their guranteed spot in the inagural Big Ten Championship game...
Go Blue!
That's what I meant when I
That's what I meant when I said they aren't as petty about their hate for UM as Dantonio is. He said he wouldn't cheer for UM no matter what that meant for MSU. The MSU fanbase seemed to feel otherwise.
He's such an immature
He's such an immature douchebag. Really, a hateful guy.
He is a giant bag of douche/
I already knew that, but Three and Out confirmed the extent to which his douchebaggery exists against Michigan. I mean, I expect that type of behavior out of the fans. But out of the head coach?
I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.
Ok, maybe just a little bit.
OT: for this thread but is 3 and out on Audio Book
I drive 2.5 hours per day from NE Oakland County to Ann Arbor and listen to a lot of audio books before TKA starts to come in on my radio.
Does anyone know if 3 and out has come out on audio and if so where to buy it?
Thanks
If you pay me,
you can call me on your cell phone and I will read the book to you, while you are driving....
“Oh Yeah, what he said forgodsakes...” - -
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Ok sure...Not making
Enough with your Law Degree?
New anecdotes from 3 and Out
New anecdotes from 3 and Out re: Dantonio?
It's impossible to get as
It's impossible to get as petty as Dantonio. But don't give MSU fans more credit than they deserve. This game was an exception. They absolutely needed us to beat Nebraska on Saturday. If we had lost, the Huskers would have easily been in perfect position to go to the Big Ten title game instead of Sparty with a home win over Iowa next week.
If MSU had already had the conference title game wrapped up going in to their game Saturday, those cheers over our game would have been boo's. The situation would have been the same if this year, they had looked like the MSU I have seen for the majority of my life - the team that loses 6 games and considers a toilet bowl a good conclusion to the season.
If the Spartan faithful had NOT cheered for our score on Saturday, they would literally be the dumbest fan base on the planet.
Go Blue! Always!
" If we had lost, the Huskers
" If we had lost, the Huskers would have easily been in perfect position to go to the Big Ten title game instead of Sparty with a home win over Iowa next week."
That's just not true. MSU controlled its own destiny going into this past weekend. MSU would've made the Big Ten title game with wins over Indiana and Northwestern. Of course, they'd still have to go into Evanston and win, but MSU still would've controlled its own destiny with a Nebraska win over UM.
Actually, MSU didn't need us
Actually, MSU didn't need us to win on Saturday. Going into Saturday, the Huskers had two Big 10 losses; one to Wisconsin and one to Northwestern. The Spartans' only Big 10 loss was to Nebraska, so Michigan State held a 1-game lead on Nebraska for the division race. Michigan beating Nebraska merely meant that Michigan State only had to beat one of Indiana and Northwestern to clinch the division title. Since they beat Indiana on Saturday, they've clinched the title.
False
MSU only has one conference loss, Nebraska had two going into the game vs UM. State controlled their own destiny, all that our win meant was that they could lose to NW and still qualify. I wouldn't expect a Spartan fan to cheer for UM against Neb, though I think it would be foolish to root against us, I'd expect indifference. I don't think UM would cheer for OSU if it wasn't absolutely necessary, and for Sparty, our win was not absolutely necessary. I think it was more about the opportunity to clinch the division at home and celebrate on the field in EL, rather than on the road.
Stupid Sexy Flanders
You're right. I should have
You're right. I should have worded that differently. A Michigan loss last Saturday and an MSU loss next Saturday would have sent Nebraska to the conference title game (by beating Iowa) because the Huskers would own the tie breaker beating Sparty head to head.
My main point remains. The cheering shouldn't come as a surprise this one time.
Go Blue! Always!
I'm sure Dantonio was
I'm sure Dantonio was extremely disappointed in the MSU fanbase.
"Some people break under pressure; others break records."
Agreed
I don't understand the purpose of this post. Of course they cheered.... They're going to Indy....
Founder of the Devin to replace Denard movement
Or they are just happy that
Or they are just happy that the 2 teams they couldn't beat, UM did? Its all about state of michigan pride...
Go Blue!
To be fair, MSU owned Iowa
To be fair, MSU owned Iowa (UM's second loss) at Iowa... and UM's other loss was to MSU itself.
The Big Ten is so weird this year...
I think there's a more
I think there's a more important question here. What were you doing at Spartan Stadium?
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This, is the best question.
I've admitted many times that
I've admitted many times that I'm an MSU alum and fan. But as you can probably tell by my mgopoints, I'm not here to flame.
We understand,
MSU fans and Michigan fans do have lots in common. Like the fact that we were all accepted at MSU. Don`t feel bad, we all understand your desire to be a Wolverine. You have friends here.
Way to go against the
Way to go against the stereotype.
This guy clearly comes in
This guy clearly comes in peace. Save this stuff for the Sparties who start things, if you use it at all.
Actually, I was
always a UM fan but never had the slightest desire to go to UM. MSU was an hour closer and had the courses I needed. Didn't mind my time in EL in the slightest.
Well...
It's quite likely they were cheering Nebraska's loss more than Michigan's win.
this.
this.
there is a scenario
in which UM goes to a BCS game and MSU does not.
70,000 spartan heads asplode!
/nojinx
this would be
somehow ... 'Sparty-like.' that's the only adjective I can think of. I want this to happen so badly.
I think the worst possible
I think the worst possible scenario could be an MSU loss to Wisconsin in the BTCG and have Michigan win out and go to the BCS. This would mean that MSU would have beaten 2 teams in the regular season that would be end up in BCS bowl games. ANGAR!
Your friendly neighborhood Sparty
Things are changing
Its easier to be happy for your big brother when you don't fear him anymore. I am glad MSU is doing well and next year we need to pound them.
Probably because...
.... the fans were not filled with die hard fans for the MSU/Indiana game. Many people who consider themselves MSU fans over the years have grown accustomed to rooting for Michigan (in a state pride way). I know that is the case versus OSU and in bowl games.
I get the sense from my MSU fans that they don't have that level of hate that comes from having high expectations year-in and year-out yet losing to another "high expctation" team year-in and year -out. That is the type of thins that built up the OSU/UM hatred. Two great teams exchanging blows.
Most MSU fans appear to be happy that Dantonio has made them into a solid B10 program. They don't have high expectations (yet) and they have not faced a solid Michigan team yet (the closest thing was what the UM team looked like earlier this year).
In other words, the hatred is not there. Michigan has not taken anything away from MSU during the Dantonio era, so why hate?
In other words, I am not surprised.
How is Bolivian? Have you
How is Bolivian? Have you tried the fish tacos? They're tremendous!
Fish tacos = not good
(Make one bad post about JoePa and the world turns against you.)
They were serving those
They were serving those outside of Bill's office.
Your friendly neighborhood Sparty
this is completely contrary to everything
I have experienced from that fan base. In fact, if you placed a "not" in front of every point you are making, I would have said you hit it right on the nose.
Maybe I just know a lot of "casual MSU fans"...
...but the people I know are "just happy MSU is doing well." They don't care about UM doing poorly because they are not at the level of fandom where you root against another team unless that team has really wronged your team somehow.
I suppose in their minds, MSU has never had a really good team that was beat by Michigan. They have only beat the recent "hapless" Michigan teams. Iowa has done the same thing and you don't see a rivalry growing there. When UM beat MSU, they were not very good (for decades and decades). When MSU got good, UM decided to start losing to everybody.
Maybe my MSU friends are acting like UM apologists, but I think they all see this as a time for them to enjoy UM's downturn...they don't seem to expect it to last. (Maybe they are just more honest with themselves than MSU slappy fans?)
I was an out-of-state Mich
I was an out-of-state Mich student, so I don't understand the rivalry as well as in-staters.
However, I don't think ANY fanbase, let alone MSU, is dumb enough to root AGAINST clinching a spot in their conference title game. Regardless of how they get there. I mean, it goes against human nature.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
Well, Dantonio said he just
Well, Dantonio said he just wasn't built to root for Michigan, even if Michigan wiining would help the Spartans claim the division championship.
Truth. However if the entire
Truth. However if the entire MSU fanbase was as big of pricks / bitches as Dantonio, then god help us.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
Not the entire fanbase. Just
Not the entire fanbase. Just about 70%
Really? I've been rooting
Really? I've been rooting for Michigan for over 10 years now and I would rank the biggest a-hole fanbases in the B1G as such:
1) Wisconsin
2) Sparty
3) OSU
Also, it sounds like from the OP that 90% of the crowd was cheering Nebraska losing to us. Doesn't sound like a fanbase of 70% moronic assholes.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
Wait, so you're saying that
Wait, so you're saying that MSU isn't that bad, but rank them 2nd in the biggest a-hole fanbases?
To be clear, I was exaggerating, but the Sparties are getting to be insufferable due to our losing streak. They were pretty bad when I was there in 2009, and if half of what I've heard about this year is true, they are up there in the classless idiot rankings.
Uh ...
So, you've like BEEN to Columbus, right? I mean, you don't even have to be there on a game day to fear for your life. Game day, especially when something is on the line, is quite a bit more terrifying that the average day ... which, again, is already hostile.
I don't see how you could say that Wisconsin has more assholes than E. Lansing or Columbus.
Well
as an in-state student and life-long (40+) resident, the so-called rivalry is one sided. I really dont care if Moo U leaves the B1G and goes to Big East and we never play them again.
We have won every recruit (save one) that we both offered and he probably will not make the grades for Moo U either. So the hate is really on them. I dont care any more about them as I do EMU, WMU, or CMU. I just want to win every game. I would prefer to drop Moo U and add another B1G team anyway.
From the Red Cedar Message Board: "God hates us." Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does. Everyone hates you.
They (and I think OSU) were
They (and I think OSU) were definitely rooting against us during the final stretch last year though
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Probably cheered for the
Probably cheered for the Nebraska loss, not the UM win.
HAIL.
What you didn't mention was
What you didn't mention was that right below that score was an add for Chico's Bail Bonds + $5 off a Blu-Ray copy of 300 with your ticket. They didn't even read the score.
Really....
Well... Fvck Msu.
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Yes, this exactly. Discussion over.
"Nobody cares what you think!"
Maybe they like knowing they beat a reasonably good Michigan team.