Stay classy, Sparty!
this may be of some local interest
Stay classy, Sparty!
Going to happen.
I mean, who wants to witness MSU intentionally trying to hurt people on the field? I can see why Dicktonio is taking this approach. At least they aren't calling them "Tom".
Please keep the juvenile shit like "dicktonio" off mgoblog. This is not the RCMB.
that nothing is set in stone til they sign. guess MSU isn't keeping any hope.
MSU doesn't recruit players that are already orally committed elsewhere. His high morals don't let him do such a thing.
"orally committed"? ewwwwww
Query: Does this rule apply to out-of-state M commits? If so, it puts a dent in Dantonio's statement that he recruits nationally . . .
It definitely puts a dent in the whole ""recruting nationally" garbage. So does the fact that nobody from outside of the midwest wants anything to do with that school.
Especially when the come from a traditional Sparty feeder High School. This also has the potential to influence future FHH kids that come out. Perhaps Dantonio's line of thinking is that if he addresses kids who by all rights should be Sparties, he hopes prevent future early commitements to the school he hates beyond all others. I think this is more a positive for Michigan, in that it almost completely shuts the door for MSU on two of the nations finest players. Especially Mario, who I think Mattison is going to mold into a future NFL 1st round pick.
Good, I hope it rubbed Burbridge the wrong way too. We'll gladly take Burbridge. Imagine him, Payton, and Morris together down the road.
I thought I had heard that we had cooled off on Burbridge because of admissions concerns, BEFORE he committed to MSU...is that not true?
For real? We allow this all the time, even when guys aren't coming.
Funchess and Ojemudia both attend Farmington Hills Harrison, a program that has been very good to Sparty over the years. The decision to treat two FHH players this way puzzles me, as it would seem like a likely way to alienate the players and coaches at a feeder program.
by a minute. Well played.
John Herrington will feel resentment about MSU in the same way the Detroit Ren coach felt when he said UM disrepected Carson Butler.
quite the opposite.
but his HS coach thought so. Perception means a lot, whether it's true or not.
Perception is reality. If someone perceives a certain action in a certain way, then that is thier reality.
I attend Renaissance now and my sister told me that Lawrence Thomas (Sparty's top recruit from last year) had Michigan as his first choice. Maybe Coach Watts turned him on MSU. It wouldn't suprise me because he is a terrible coach.
Thanks for the definition of "perception is reality." Up to now I was unclear on that. If someone perceives a certain thing to be unclear, then a lack of clarity is their reality.
Remember, they recruit nationally now.
WHY IS MICHIGAN STATE IGNORING IN-STATE RECRUITS!! WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE RICH ROD?! RABBLE RABBLE NATIONAL RECRUITING RABBLE
Don't you know they recruit nationally now?
part of my incoherent all caps rambling
Ahh there it is. I missed it. Hats off to you then.
I know you are serious when you decided to use capslock. *clap clap*
the staff at Harrison too. Close that pipe for good!
It's a little arrogant of Funchess and Ojemudia to expect to be hosted by a team when they're totally committed to that school's biggest rival.
Dunn must be one arrogant guy. I like it. I'll take one.
Not that arrogant. It's not uncommon for recruits to bring their teammates on visits, and these are guys who were recruited by MSU and are from a major HS program. We've had committed guys come to our games with teammates who never had much interest.
The thing is, MSU has almost nothing to lose by letting these guys come with their teammate. In fact, there's a chance that they even could have swayed one or both of them. Instead, they did themselves no good and possibly some harm as well if Burbridge, the FHH coach or any younger FHH players were put off by it.
They likely don't sway either layer, but they could impress them enough to make them recommend Sparty to their friends/ teammates. Goodwill is very important in recruiting as eidenced by all of the coaches who think a team slighted them.
They're going to Michigan. It's ok to be arrogant.
Arrogant, are they getting an early start on being Michigan Men? I say this in a positive way, because I actually think a little arrogance is a good thing around your football program.
You'd think they'd have let them come and given them a pro-MSU talk/tour/activities to try to change their minds. Getting kids on campus is a huge part of recruiting them -- even if they're committed elsewhere. We still let Dunn visit (I know he's a soft commit we're actively recruiting, but still). Clearly they've given up hope on getting Funchess and Ojemudia to switch over. It just seems calculated to piss them off and possibly put Burbridge off too -- if they were worried about our commits talking pro-UM at Burbridge, well, they can do that every day at school. We'd definitely let him visit us here (and hopefully he elects to accompany them here for OSU or something). Poor business practice, Sparty.
I think the benefits you mention are outweighed by the negatives of having a pair of Michigan commits potentially in their actual recruits' ears.
Thing is it isn't like the recruits can only talk to each other when they see each other on campus. Similar to Kalis/Thomas talking to Dunn often about Michigan. With the ease of social networking today recruits can talk to each other all the time, and blocking them to try and prevent pro Michigan talk won't really work.
I think they just want to go to show support for their teammates. I see this only being a negative really by blocking them in that it now gives the players you blocked another bit of information when say talking to all the other teammates back at school.
On campus visits are probably the most important events in a player's recruitment. This is State's coaches' best opportunity to jazz kids on their school. I can understand why they'd want to avoid tagalong potential Debby Downers.
You know how MSU players frequently play against Michigan like they have a chip on their shoulder? Maybe Funchess and Ojemudia will be extra motivated in the MSU game now. I know it's probably not a huge deal, but you never know.
That may be true, but why not try and wow our recruits while they are at it? Nothing is set in stone till NSD, and they can show off MSU and all that jazz to our recruits. If then our recruits started being rude and bad mouthing them while on the visit you can ask them to leave and then their teammates would probably understand because they were being rude.
But straight up blocking them without seeing what they would do (who knows, they could be silent angels only there to support their teammates and wouldn't say anything bad) seems like a move with a more negative public outcome.
that loudly proclaims its equal status to its instate rival, going into a game in its own stadium, still feels so nervous about a single recruit that it denies entrance to two kids who've committed to the rival? With months yet to go before signing day?
If the MSU coaches think, like you, that keeping the UM commits away from a single three-hour game is meaningfully reducing their contact with Burbridge, then none of you understand things like cell phones and social media. There is literally no upside to their decision. It just makes them look small and petty.
Imagine Brionte Dunn had a couple buddies on his team who were 100% OSU and had no interest in Michigan. Would you want them there when Michigan's coaches are pitching Dunn? This is common sense.
Dantonio doesn't want a couple of tagalongs snickering when he talks about integrity or pointing out how he looks exactly like Sam the Eagle or asking how many ski masks an MSU scholarship would entitle them to. I don't blame him.
Well, Burbridge is actually an MSU commit, and he comes from a football powerhouse.
A better example would be if Kyle Kalis wanted to visit with two of his St. Ed's teammates who were OSU commits. These are likely kids we'd welcome if their minds changed, and a school we'd like to keep happy. I think we'd be psyched if those hypothetical kids came.
Now, you made another implication. If you're implying that said recruits are going to be causing trouble, then that's another story, but not exactly a safe assumption. The same could happen with a kid who's not actually a commit to another school, so it's not enough of a reason to tell a kid he can't visit.
I believe the answer is one ski mask per scholarship year. I wonder if it specifies color, though.
Burbridge won't come here because of this alone, but there have been rumors that he's not necessary solid to MSU, and all the more reasons that pop up that could convince him otherwise are OK with me.
many people will ever even hear this story, but if I've learned anything during the past three years, it's that negative press is never good for a program. Perceptions of high school coaches also mean a lot. A lot of high school coaches were put off by Rich Rod. You really never know. Maybe this does have the same affect on the FHH coach.
Well ain't you Mr. high and mighty. Not that I completely disagree with you, but the utter lack of anything but horrible reasoning in that post makes you come off pretty poorly.
heards that da corches at msu were calling Aaron "tim" by accident even tho that's not even his name! this mite push him back to miccccchigan!!1!one!1
how is this "flamebait"
had to ask
Because it is Jar Jar Binks.
A character that should have NEVER been brought into the Star Wars universe. One of the many reasons that the last 3 were meh at best.
Have you ever had a girlfriend? Just testing a theory of mine...
It doesn't win any favor but at the same time why would you give your rival program who you are playing that day a chance to let their recruits see their game at your own stadium.
I seem to remember being ticked off Lloyd Carr and company didn't escort Mo C out of the stadium when he came in all osu gear and stayed on the osu sidelines for the game in 01!
This is like what middle school kids do to each other. You know, MSU is a good team this year, but man as a program they just cannot put it all together. They continually make bad decisions that hold themselves back as a program. Sparty being Sparty, I guess.
make a new thread for this, but I was looking at the Scout profiles of Ojemudia and Funchess when I wandered over to the profile for Dymonte Thomas. He's wearing a Denard legacy jersey in his profile now. I like that.
I think the WR that got to go to the game has a qualifying problem with Michigan. If he get's his grades/ACT (or whatever it is) figured out, I'm sure he'd jump ships.
Already start the hate even before they put on the college uniforms
like "you can't wear Michigan gear or go to the Michigan sideline, and if that's not ok with you, then it's best you don't come" but flat-out saying they can't come is something else.
The only way this makes sense is that Sparty decided that Mario and Devin are more solid to M than Burbridge is to State, perhaps very decisively so. They'd rather poison the FHH pipeline and piss off Burbridge than allow Mario and Devin a recruiting opportunity. They fear losing Burbridge, and they might be on to something.
and they don't want Michigan recruits on the sideline hearing the direct instruction for "unecessary roughness" to opposing players. Ha kind of kidding on that last bit but they are duches for sure
Even though 2 of the 3 are committed verbally to UM, it's still "open season". It's not official until February signing date.
So you never know. With the right sales pitch, a big win and Sunday stayover, you might be able to sway them over your way, right? Maybe not. But maybe yes.
So why eliminate two potential prospects and possibly alienate a third one - especially the one that has already committed to you verbally?
Burbridge might have thought he could work hard during the visit to convince his friends about attending MSU.
Well congratulations MSU! You deserve 4 stars and two enthusiastic thumbs up! for successfully undermining a verbal commit's street cred.
It just goes to show everyone that, among other things, manners and civility are part of the East Lansing way. Wait, wrong speech....*shuffles papers*
It doesn't strike me as odd that MSU wouldn't bother to host players at a game against the team those players are committed to.
This actually makes perfect sense.
sense to me
Wasn't it jusst a few weeks ago everyone was talking about how dumb Lloyd Carr was to allow Maurice Clarett to visit for the Ohio game in Ann Arbor and that he shouldn't have been shocked that Clarett went over to the sidelines?
I get that these kids were coming with a teammate, but, as gross as this makes me feel to say, I can kind of see where Dantonio is coming from.
uhh...its not like it was for the game last week and they were going to hanging out on the Michigan sideline, I would assume they would be with Burbridge on the MSU side. They just want to go see a primetime game w/ their teammate but Sparty took their ball and went home. In itself I think this a none issue but FHH is a huge feeder for them and any ill will towards them and/or the kids is not a good thing.
I would not blame them at all...no reason to give access to other team's recruits. The only problem is if this turns off Burbridge to Sparty. But otherwise, they were fully within their rights.
I seem to remember Burbridge coming with Funchess/Ojemudia to the BigHouse BBQ like the week after his sparty commit, and also a game later, without a problem. Then again, I guess sparty just reinforced what is said; that Burbridge would rather be UofM if his grades could improve and doesn't think he has options.
that Burbridge would decommit and come to Michigan, if that did happen, along with Kalis and Dunn, I would find that funny.
lol, also Sevon Pittman said he probably will take an official to ohio. Just 2 weeks after he said no one else is recruiting him. I hope states recruiting class falls apart.
state really does act like a bunch of bitches, like little children!
"You hurt my feelings, you can't come over!"
If they were smart they'd try to lure Funchess and Ojemudia away from Michigan, but then again, who wants to play for a dirtball program like state who allows thugs to play in their program anyways?