I Like Burgers

June 21st, 2016 at 11:51 PM ^

Should be a fun one. Michigan should be an easy 7-0 heading in to that game. MSU should be 6-1 or 5-2 if things go shitty for them. A win is very much needed for Michigan.

And the murderfest vs Rutgers will be a nice prequel on the revenge tour.

Can't believe I'm looking forward to Michigan vs. Rutgers...



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Aged Wolverine 68

June 22nd, 2016 at 4:16 PM ^

I am with you on the "I cant believe I actually dislike Rutgers" train. Having read their fans on Rivals boards, there are a number of younger fans who have gone from "yeah we are in the B1G" to "who is Michigan".

 

 

There is one poster there I found to be reasonable, but yeah, I hear ya. It would be one thing if they were "Has beens", which is sort of the boat we are in, and working back from. Nope, they are the epitome of "Never was nor will be", and until they switch up the divisions, they will be stuck at no better than 3rd each season, and only if things work out right.

 

They just dont have the means to run with the big dogs, and although they can build up to it, they should ask Texas A & M and WVU how it is going.

ijohnb

June 22nd, 2016 at 5:56 AM ^

think he meant "savage" as in highly competitive, which I agree with. They lost a lot, but I kind of think that State has the "machine rolling" right now and that you are not going to see any big time drop offs for a while. They did lose quite a bit, but the pollsters still view them as legit. I think they are like a poor mans version of us under Carr. They may not always be world beaters but they are never going to be an easy out.

Sommy

June 22nd, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^

No, I don't see them taking a step back -- they have their best recruiting class ever coming in, and they're not really taking a step back at QB. Dantonio has destroyed us for years with interior talent. I'll believe it when I see it. Sorry. Negbang away.



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HAIL-YEA

June 22nd, 2016 at 4:06 PM ^

have no idea if this is their best recruiting class ever, and I highly doubt it is. You have no idea if O'conner is as good as Cook, but I highly doubt he is. If O'conner was as good as Cook there would have been a competition at some point..the guy is a 5th yr senior. 

The thing is, MSU did take a step back last year but they played a shit schedule and had every lucky break you could get. Yes they went to the playoffs, but they got jail sexed there because they didn't belong. They easily could have lost to Oregon, Purdue, Rutgers, Michigan, Iowa, and Ohio State and they did lose to a shit Nebraska team. I don't mean those games were kind of close, I mean MSU was in serious danger and should of lost at least a couple of them. 

Now you are trying to say that MSU can do what even teams like Alabama can't do, which is not take a step back when you lose half your team to graduation and the draft. Soo yea, I think I will negbang away because youre either a troll or a pussy.

7words

June 22nd, 2016 at 1:47 AM ^

Compete with them???? We fucking beat them last year except for the once in a lifetime fluke play.   I'm pretty sure that counts as "competing" with them.   They didn't hold a lead in the game against us at any point while there was time on the clock.  I guess thats a non competitive game in your world.   You must have been bored with our blowout of Minnesota last year too.  

JayMo4

June 22nd, 2016 at 6:15 AM ^

I get annoyed when people use the term "perfect storm," but it was a combination of a fluke play (that involved multiple fluky aspects) with terrible officiating at some really key moments with a couple of deep throws that we just missed on and a several pinpoint - like career best level - Cook passes that could not have been caught if they'd been off by just a couple inches.

 

Change any one of those plays, even just part of that last play (fall on the ball.  FALL ON THE BALL!) and we win.  It wouldn't have been a statistically dominating win, but we'd have taken it and worried about style points this year.

evenyoubrutus

June 22nd, 2016 at 6:37 AM ^

Definitely. Everyone talks about Dantonio getting his team prepared for Michigan every year but Harbaugh out coached him badly in that game. As every MSU fans has pointed out, they out gained us by a lot and yet Michigan positioned themselves to lead for the entire game until the last fluke play. For MSU this was a peak season with a bunch of seniors. For Michigan it was a rebuilding year. We definitely have the coaching advantage right now.

BigBlue02

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:46 AM ^

It is always funny to hear people saying max protect would have magically made Blake catch the ball or decide to jump on the ball. It is what people who have nothing else to criticize Harbaugh about but they don't have any actual good evidence so they use that. It's like saying the play call for Rudddddock's last interception against Utah is what lost us the game.

phork

June 22nd, 2016 at 11:53 PM ^

Thats not what I said, but it would have made the poor guy panic less and try and make a play on it instead of trying to punt it away.  When you get 5 guys in your face after you've bobbled a snap, decisions are less apt to be strong ones.  Not to mention less Sparty Train to the endzone if they did get their hands on it and Butt probably makes the saving play.

The only evidence I need is coaches who wondered why max protect wasn't on.  Sure it was probably an oversight that Harbaugh won't make again given the circumstances, but there it was.

 

MH20

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:57 AM ^

Unfortunately for you in 2009, football wasn't a 59 minute, 49 second sport.

Unfortunately for you in 2010, football wasn't a 59 minute, 33 second sport.

Unfortunately for you in 2011, football wasn't a 59 minute, 58 second sport.

Just like many others who have pretended to "come in peace," you never can let pass an opportunity to show your true troll colors.  I don't know why Brian & Co. have let you stay around.

phork

June 22nd, 2016 at 11:57 PM ^

Just helping you see past your Blue colored glasses my friend.  I'm sorry if I rubbed a sore spot.  Some of the fans on here who firmly believe that Sparty is in for an ass whoopin in EastLansing probably believe in Santa too.  (PS Sorry if  you do believe in Santa and I just ruined it for you)

MH20

June 23rd, 2016 at 2:00 PM ^

Cool, man.  Unfortunately, I posted nothing of the sort in this thread.  In fact, I think it will be a tough game in EL.

Why are you on a Michigan message board again?  Why don't you phork off back to NDNation and continue talking shit about mgoblog to your Domer buddies.

ak47

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:24 AM ^

Out coached? Come on stop being a homer.  It was probably evenly coached but we lost at home to a team with a non-existent secondary, beat up OL and one true receiving option.  

We lost that game because we scored one touchdown off of four possesions that started in the msu half.

evenyoubrutus

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:29 AM ^

Do you think the 2014 Michigan Notre Dame game was evenly coached? I mean we did out gain them in that game. My point is, MSU had a 3 year starter at QB, and a lot of veterans while Michigan was rebuilding with a graduate transfer at QB who, at that point in the season couldn't complete a pass more than 20 yards down field. Harbaugh won the chess match by having his team in a position to win against a far more experienced team.

ak47

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:40 AM ^

The entire world had Michigan winning that game including this entire board by the time of kickoff.  I don't think Harbaugh got horribly outcoached but I'm not going to say he outcoached Dantanio either.  Dantanio had a great defensive gameplan and we repeatedly ran the ball right into their strength and it didn't work.

BigBlue02

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:53 AM ^

For as much as we make fun of them, they were in the playoffs and were one of the top 4 teams in the country. They should have won that game by more than a fluke play in Harbaugh's first year at Michigan. Harbaugh definitely outcoached Dantonio.

uncle leo

June 22nd, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

They got it done, Michigan didn't. I know JH is god to everyone on here, but he completely dropped the ball on the punt. 100 percent. You don't need freaking gunners on that punt.

Statistically, top to bottom, MSU won that game. I know it's painful, but they did. 386-230 yards, 20-10 first downs.

Michigan also got away with a ridiculous 2 yard TD. The play went on for an hour and they just said, "F it, touchdown."

Super easy for us to see one side of it. The last possession when Michigan had to kill a clock was so horribly run. Doing quick gut busting runs that basically didn't nothing to threaten MSU or eat up ANY time. Run a couple of stretch plays, or shit, have Peppers take a snap 5 yards deep and run around and you'll end up not even needing to punt. That was blown coaching in the last 2 minutes. 

HAIL-YEA

June 22nd, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^

you even watch the game? Of course the numbers are lobsided, our kickreturners consistantly moved the ball in to MSU territory. When you start at the 50 all the mtime you are going to accumulate less yards and first downs.  

uncle leo

June 22nd, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

Between kick and punt returns. 

But no, let's not let the facts get in the way. Give MSU a couple more kick returns, and let's low ball it and say 25 a piece. Maybe 50 more yards in Michigan's favor on K/P returns.

You give up a million yard touchdown to some rumbling fullback, blow punt coverage in the most critical point in the game, and run HORRIBLE play calls with a minute thirty left. Yeah, a lot of this game is on JH. Sorry. Reality sucks sometimes. 

He's still a fantastic coach. But he froze when it mattered.

BigBlue02

June 22nd, 2016 at 4:19 PM ^

Totally. I mean, why run regular running plays up the middle to run out the clock? We need trick plays with Peppers getting the direct snap and running around in the backfield. It is too hard to fumble it when you run regular run of the mill handoffs to your running backs. We need a defensive back to run it at the end of the game. Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the basics of football. You have to be a troll to be that stupid

uncle leo

June 22nd, 2016 at 4:55 PM ^

Shit man, run a freaking sweep each time and then cut up field, those could have killed 3 seconds more each play, and then you don't need to punt.

They played not to lose, and they lost. Period. Those were the most boring, regular, play calls that you can come up with. No concept of time and how to kill off the clock. 

 

JayMo4

June 22nd, 2016 at 6:17 AM ^

I don't know about BYU or Northwestern (both will keep it closer vs sparty than they did against us,) but I favor ND and figure Wisky is a coin flip.  You really never know with Indiana - they were competitive with us and OSU, but got creamed by Penn State and lost to Rutgers.  I expect them to keep it close, but find a way to blow it.

Mabel Pines

June 22nd, 2016 at 9:26 AM ^

However, acting like you are just going back to the playoffs without acknowledging you have some rebuilding to do is a recipe for disappointment. I'm all for this. Looking forward to some good social media meltdowns from my Spartan friends!

esanch

June 22nd, 2016 at 2:26 PM ^

I dont know a single MSU fan that doesn't think they're taking a step back and that Michigan is going to be way improved. Do you just make this stuff up for anti-MSU message board fodder to stoke the ever blazing sparty hate fire?

BassDude138

June 22nd, 2016 at 2:39 PM ^

Realistic MSU fans do understand that. Maybe he is basing his statement solely on what he has read on the cesspool that is RCMB? If you listen to those MSU fans, it is ridiculous for us to even hint at the fact that Michigan should be allowed to step on the same field as them.