MSU Clemons granted a sixth year
Good news for them. Not sure how key a contributor he would've been, but they probably need all the help they can get this year
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No dude haven't you heard? They are gonna beat us this year big time.
...is going to be savage. Very much looking forward to it.
And the murderfest vs Rutgers will be a nice prequel on the revenge tour.
Can't believe I'm looking forward to Michigan vs. Rutgers...
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I hope we are up big late and then sub in all our NJ guys at once.
Our NJ guys will be the reason we have that big lead.
I am with you on the "I cant believe I actually dislike Rutgers" train. Having read their fans on Rivals boards, there are a number of younger fans who have gone from "yeah we are in the B1G" to "who is Michigan".
There is one poster there I found to be reasonable, but yeah, I hear ya. It would be one thing if they were "Has beens", which is sort of the boat we are in, and working back from. Nope, they are the epitome of "Never was nor will be", and until they switch up the divisions, they will be stuck at no better than 3rd each season, and only if things work out right.
They just dont have the means to run with the big dogs, and although they can build up to it, they should ask Texas A & M and WVU how it is going.
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You don't see MSU taking a step back - at all?
Yeah I don't see how they can't take a step back. They lost a lot. I'm sure they will be tough, they always coach their guys up. But basically they lost every significant player except for Mcdowell and their RBs.
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have no idea if this is their best recruiting class ever, and I highly doubt it is. You have no idea if O'conner is as good as Cook, but I highly doubt he is. If O'conner was as good as Cook there would have been a competition at some point..the guy is a 5th yr senior.
The thing is, MSU did take a step back last year but they played a shit schedule and had every lucky break you could get. Yes they went to the playoffs, but they got jail sexed there because they didn't belong. They easily could have lost to Oregon, Purdue, Rutgers, Michigan, Iowa, and Ohio State and they did lose to a shit Nebraska team. I don't mean those games were kind of close, I mean MSU was in serious danger and should of lost at least a couple of them.
Now you are trying to say that MSU can do what even teams like Alabama can't do, which is not take a step back when you lose half your team to graduation and the draft. Soo yea, I think I will negbang away because youre either a troll or a pussy.
Compete with them???? We fucking beat them last year except for the once in a lifetime fluke play. I'm pretty sure that counts as "competing" with them. They didn't hold a lead in the game against us at any point while there was time on the clock. I guess thats a non competitive game in your world. You must have been bored with our blowout of Minnesota last year too.
Everyone talks about the fluke play but that was also some of the worste officiating I think I have ever seen.
I could be wrong though. I was at the game and refuse to rewatch it. At the time it seemed like the worst officiating I have ever seen.
Oh it was horrific - Seth did a fantastic front page post on it and broke down all of the calls. It was long to say the least.
I get annoyed when people use the term "perfect storm," but it was a combination of a fluke play (that involved multiple fluky aspects) with terrible officiating at some really key moments with a couple of deep throws that we just missed on and a several pinpoint - like career best level - Cook passes that could not have been caught if they'd been off by just a couple inches.
Change any one of those plays, even just part of that last play (fall on the ball. FALL ON THE BALL!) and we win. It wouldn't have been a statistically dominating win, but we'd have taken it and worried about style points this year.
Out coached until, you know, the end of the game when max protect should have been on. Unfortunately for you football is a 60minute sport.
Why are you here? Fuck off, Phork.
Thats not what I said, but it would have made the poor guy panic less and try and make a play on it instead of trying to punt it away. When you get 5 guys in your face after you've bobbled a snap, decisions are less apt to be strong ones. Not to mention less Sparty Train to the endzone if they did get their hands on it and Butt probably makes the saving play.
The only evidence I need is coaches who wondered why max protect wasn't on. Sure it was probably an oversight that Harbaugh won't make again given the circumstances, but there it was.
Speaking of out-coached, Charlie Weis says Hi.
Miss you Big Guy. XOXOXO.
You say that like its supposed to mean something ***NEWS FLASH*** WEIS IS A BAD COACH.
Unfortunately for you in 2009, football wasn't a 59 minute, 49 second sport.
Unfortunately for you in 2010, football wasn't a 59 minute, 33 second sport.
Unfortunately for you in 2011, football wasn't a 59 minute, 58 second sport.
Just like many others who have pretended to "come in peace," you never can let pass an opportunity to show your true troll colors. I don't know why Brian & Co. have let you stay around.
Just helping you see past your Blue colored glasses my friend. I'm sorry if I rubbed a sore spot. Some of the fans on here who firmly believe that Sparty is in for an ass whoopin in EastLansing probably believe in Santa too. (PS Sorry if you do believe in Santa and I just ruined it for you)
Cool, man. Unfortunately, I posted nothing of the sort in this thread. In fact, I think it will be a tough game in EL.
Why are you on a Michigan message board again? Why don't you phork off back to NDNation and continue talking shit about mgoblog to your Domer buddies.
Out coached? Come on stop being a homer. It was probably evenly coached but we lost at home to a team with a non-existent secondary, beat up OL and one true receiving option.
We lost that game because we scored one touchdown off of four possesions that started in the msu half.
The entire world had Michigan winning that game including this entire board by the time of kickoff. I don't think Harbaugh got horribly outcoached but I'm not going to say he outcoached Dantanio either. Dantanio had a great defensive gameplan and we repeatedly ran the ball right into their strength and it didn't work.
They got it done, Michigan didn't. I know JH is god to everyone on here, but he completely dropped the ball on the punt. 100 percent. You don't need freaking gunners on that punt.
Statistically, top to bottom, MSU won that game. I know it's painful, but they did. 386-230 yards, 20-10 first downs.
Michigan also got away with a ridiculous 2 yard TD. The play went on for an hour and they just said, "F it, touchdown."
Super easy for us to see one side of it. The last possession when Michigan had to kill a clock was so horribly run. Doing quick gut busting runs that basically didn't nothing to threaten MSU or eat up ANY time. Run a couple of stretch plays, or shit, have Peppers take a snap 5 yards deep and run around and you'll end up not even needing to punt. That was blown coaching in the last 2 minutes.
you even watch the game? Of course the numbers are lobsided, our kickreturners consistantly moved the ball in to MSU territory. When you start at the 50 all the mtime you are going to accumulate less yards and first downs.
Between kick and punt returns.
But no, let's not let the facts get in the way. Give MSU a couple more kick returns, and let's low ball it and say 25 a piece. Maybe 50 more yards in Michigan's favor on K/P returns.
You give up a million yard touchdown to some rumbling fullback, blow punt coverage in the most critical point in the game, and run HORRIBLE play calls with a minute thirty left. Yeah, a lot of this game is on JH. Sorry. Reality sucks sometimes.
He's still a fantastic coach. But he froze when it mattered.
How dare you desecrate Uncle Leo's name with this post.
Shit man, run a freaking sweep each time and then cut up field, those could have killed 3 seconds more each play, and then you don't need to punt.
They played not to lose, and they lost. Period. Those were the most boring, regular, play calls that you can come up with. No concept of time and how to kill off the clock.
I don't know about BYU or Northwestern (both will keep it closer vs sparty than they did against us,) but I favor ND and figure Wisky is a coin flip. You really never know with Indiana - they were competitive with us and OSU, but got creamed by Penn State and lost to Rutgers. I expect them to keep it close, but find a way to blow it.
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I dont know a single MSU fan that doesn't think they're taking a step back and that Michigan is going to be way improved. Do you just make this stuff up for anti-MSU message board fodder to stoke the ever blazing sparty hate fire?
Realistic MSU fans do understand that. Maybe he is basing his statement solely on what he has read on the cesspool that is RCMB? If you listen to those MSU fans, it is ridiculous for us to even hint at the fact that Michigan should be allowed to step on the same field as them.
This place and RCMB are way more similar than you might think or want to admit.