After 2 DUIs and isn't this 3
After 2 DUIs and isn't this 3 driving without a license? It better be.
If anyone sees Stonum getting
If anyone sees Stonum getting in a vehicle..grab him..call it a citizens proactiove arrest
For the love of god
this is not good at all and frankly I would not blame Hoke for moving on. Unless there is some reasonable explanation this shows horrible judgment and may result in further legal problems. Maybe we should have made a schollie available for Arnett?
Someone get this man an Ann
Someone get this man an Ann Arbor The Ride bus map. Now.
and for longer distances
Wonder if Beamer can hook him up with a Greyhound schedule?
Afraid this is the end of the road for Darryl, as far as Michigan football is concerned. A pity.
"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"
"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"
~George Walden
So...
we should be expecting a Freshman WR starter for Team 133?
Sammy Watkins did a pretty
Sammy Watkins did a pretty good job for Clemson this year.
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We have no one as good as Sammy Watkins. Arnett could have been the guy, but alas, Stonum decided to fuck up just after he committed elsewhere. Son of a bitch.
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I've got a good feeling that Darboh could step in and play a big role next year.
Everyone makes mistakes when
Everyone makes mistakes when they are young. The thing is that they need to learn from them and it would seem that he is not as he continues to make similar mistakes. To bad after he had a very promising 2010.
-Those who stay will be champions-
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He gone.
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Worst announcer ever.
Worst announcer ever.
Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.
Calling him an "announcer" is
Calling him an "announcer" is misleading.
He is merely a fan with a microphone.
"Welllllllll..."
Bob Ufer was a fan with a
Bob Ufer was a fan with a microphone. Harrelson is less of a White Sox fan and more of a hater of every other team that isn't the White Sox.
"We've beaten Michigan the last four years. So where's the threat?"
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Not a homer issue. Ufer was
Not a homer issue. Ufer was wildly entertaining. Harrelson sits silently until he can spew off one of his contrived catch phrases.
Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.
Hold on a second---
Pam Ward wants in on that discussion
"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite."
So does
Craig James...
"It is better, of course, to know useless things than to know nothing."
"The world is given to me only once..."
Let him have his day...
Dumb move, but the kid was trying to get to the probation office to check in at 7am. Kinda hard to find a ride.
I was afraid he did something dumb while down in N.O., this is still dumb...but I think if he's been perfect, the court may not worry about it.
We'll know tomorrow when he goes for his scheduled hearing.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
Have to believe this is an
Have to believe this is an appointment he didn't know about long in advance. No excuse to not have a way to get there. Perfect or not this is something that could have and should have been avoided.
-Those who stay will be champions-
That's my guess too -
He drove b/c he had to get to his probation meeting. Dumb but understandable. I don't think this is a hanging offense. He didn't endanger anyone by doing this.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
agreed...
If the courts say nothing to see here (probation officers know what he has been up to the past 8 months), I have no issue with him staying on the team. But if they smack him hard (again based on the previous 8 months), he is gone.
My feelings exactly. If this
My feelings exactly. If this was a bad decision with good intentions (i.e. getting to his PO to check in), I don't think it needs to be the end of his career. If the judicial system decides this was serious, then I don't think there's any choice but to move on.
Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.
Even if he lives down on Main
Even if he lives down on Main Street with the other guys on the team, the probation office is easy to get to from there by bus or even by bike.
And most of that trip is down hill.
Wow, things have changed.
When I lived in Ann Arbor...
...it was uphill.
...bothways.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
In the
wind and snow and dark of night (at 7AM in January).
No, there's no excuse for
No, there's no excuse for this. How does it make any sense at all to get into a car with a revoked license, then drive yourself to the courthouse, of all places, for your probation checkup?
I agree
Let's not blow this out of proportion.
as much as I appreciate Hoke
as much as I appreciate Hoke giving the kid a second chance...he just doesn't seem to want to walk the straight and narrow. I think its time to move on from Darryl and that's too bad. He had the world at his finger tips and he just let it slip away by being irresponsible.
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This is really unfortunate
I do not see how they can allow him back on the team. I think it is time to part ways. We could really have used Stonum for next year, but how dumb can you be. He is driving to his probation officer meeting on a suspended license and then lies to his probation officer saying he was dropped off. If I was him, I would not do anything remotely illegal so that I could get back on the team. He has no one to blame for this but himself.
The mgo community RAILED MSU
The mgo community RAILED MSU for Tucker getting one duo and Winston getting in one fight.
This is.... what? The third occurance? He was still on the team after two, eight? Is there any doubt he should be gone?
Who is tucker, why did he get
Who is tucker, why did he get a duo, and Winston got into 2 fights, one of them he did jail time for because he brain damaged a fellow MSU athlete. What the fuck are you talking about?
Mr. Diggs you still interested?
Unfortunately this is likely his last draw. Too bad, I thought he would step in well and decrease the loss of Hemingway.
He needs a huffy bike
Someone please donte one to him...half the ones parked at South Quad never even get used (at least circa 1997)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no
That was the kind of bad decision that will affect a lifetime.
So Madris is back on the front burner now right?
If I'm Hoke I'm calling him now.
Thats how I roll!
I'm sorry but I don't see
I'm sorry but I don't see what the big deal is. What a joke.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
Well
Well since you're Mr. Rager, you probably don't have a problem with Stonum's raging.
But, when you have 2 DUIs and have already been pulled over multiple times for driving without a license, you don't want to accrue more tickets/arrests. You will eventually go to jail. Prior to that, a college football coach will likely kick you off the team for being a dumbass.
If Stonum is kicked off the team, we lose our outside speed receiver. That is the big deal and is not a joke.
Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.
Yeah yeah yeah. It was 7 AM
Yeah yeah yeah. It was 7 AM and he clearly couldn't find anyone to give him a ride. How bad would it have been if he missed his date?
Also, nice job AA PD for essentially arresting him after you pieced together the fact that he drove himself there.
The whole thing sucks, and it's not like he was driving drunk this time (which is a REAL law that he broke, twice). I am not saying he's a good / bad kid, but this offense (by comparison to what he has done before) is a joke. Not worthy of being booted off the team.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
This offense may not be alone
This offense may not be alone but when you compound all of his other mistakes he has made this should be the last one he has a chance to make while with Michigan. Driving with a suspened licence is a REAL law that he broke as well.
He should have had a ride lined up and things ready to go. As far as how bad would it have been, I can't say I have ever been in this position my self but I imagine that a phone call to who ever he needed to see and explain the situation would have been better then this.
-Those who stay will be champions-
Drunk driving = Breaking a
Drunk driving = Breaking a REAL law that has REAL consequences (putting yourself and anyone else on the road in danger of losing their life)
Driving with a suspended license = Breaking a follow up law due to a REAL law that you previously broke
If he gets kicked off the team, I wouldn't be surprised. But I seriously cannot believe the people that are willing to toss him away like a piece of garbage right now.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
Just said it your self, he
Just said it your self, he still broke the law and as far as what Michigan stands for and the accountability that Hoke wants from his team this is something that cannot just be swept away.
No one said he is garbage or a terrible kid but this isn't what we want Michigan to be in the news for now or in the future. Kids breaking "minor" laws as you would call them, it's not what the program stands for period.
-Those who stay will be champions-
If he had walked and received
If he had walked and received a ticket for jay walking, I don't think that anyone would be up in arms about it.
By this logic
By this logic, breaking out of prison isn't breaking a REAL law.
Stonum broke the law by driving drunk. Part of his punishment is that he is no longer allowed the privilege of driving. He circumvented his own punishment for the first crime, breaking ANOTHER law in the process.
I consider that a big deal in its own right. It is all the more so when combined with the previous violations.
7am is not particularly early. Buses, bikes, and feet are all perfectly capable of transporting an individual from one location to another. On a personal level, Stonum's bad decision is understandable. But, on an accountablility level, it is still a bad decision, it should not be excusable.
Your brain doesn't work like
Your brain doesn't work like mine, I am sorry. You really went to the "breaking out of jail" comparison? LOL.
Driving with a suspended license is more akin to jay walking, speeding, etc. than breaking out of jail. I didn't even read the rest of your post because what you led with was so terrible.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
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You're right, your brain doesn't work like his, or like most others apparently. It's a perfectly sound, albeit extreme, analogy. You said driving with a suspended was breaking a "follow up law" after breaking a "REAL" law, whatever that means. Breaking out of jail would also be a "follow up law", because guess what, if I go visit a prison today I'm perfectly free to walk out the front door without breaking any "REAL" or "follow up" laws. Staying in jail is a condition of punishment, as is the revocation of driving privileges. Don't adhere to either of these conditions, and there are consequences.
I dont think you really
I dont think you really understand the law. 1 speeding ticket isn't the worst thing in the world. 15 speeding tickets in a row and you are probably going to jail. 1 driving with a suspended license may not be a huge deal, but after DUI's and other driving while license suspended tickets, he might spend some time in jail. But that isn't so bad, is it
Emotionally, I want to agree that it wasn't a big deal.
By itself, I'd agree, too. However, he was on probation. He had a probation officer, it wasn't fun and games. Now, until all the facts are out, I am not going to make further judgement, but based on what we see right this second, I don't think it looks good.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
Look, if I was due to receive
Look, if I was due to receive a $200,000 scholarship to attend one of the world's greatest universities to play a game... I'd get my ass up and walk. Time to move on and give a great opportunity to someone who wants it.
What you see is the hard work he's put in. It's nature. It just all comes together.
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