My friend, a big OSU fan has heard that Verlon Reed OSU's best reciever not already suspended, is out for the year with a torn ACL, also he said Posey and Boom Herron will probably never suit up again for OSU because they are second time offenders and the university wants to show the NCAA they are serious about cleaning the school up( I literally LOL'ed at that)
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like........victory........
[and not because a student-athlete is injured. Strictly from an institutional perspective]
That sucks for Reed. I hope he is able to have a fast and full recovery, and that he is able to get back out on the gridiron again.
...so that he can promptly get Goldberg-style spear-tackled by Marvin Robinson while going across the middle in 2012.
Also so that BWC can tackle him and then make him smell BWC's armpits.
get Big WIll C's fangers in his nose
I'd be more certain about the wind from a Marvin Robinson whiff blowing him over than Marvin actually making the tackle...
While I don't mind seeing someone knocked out of a game, an ACL is serious business and I would never wish it on anyone. I hope Reid makes it all the way back someday. As for Herron and Posey, they deserve to be kicked out of the program and THE Ohio State University deserves to pay the full price for its prolonged pattern of cheating.
Reed can maybe red shirt (given the injury and only being 5 games in)? I don't know details, but if its an ACL only, he could be back on the field as soon as the start of next season.
"… Verlon Reed has torn his ACL and “everything [else] in his knee” so he will be out for the year."
I don't think he can redshirt. Apparently they changed the rule so you can redshirt if you're injured up to halfway through a season but you still can't have played in more than four games. Reed played in five. But I might be wrong on that.
Hoke mentioned something about being able to redshirt someone (Rawls) b/c the rules had changed. Presumably this is what he's referring to.
Whoever tagged this "trolling" makes Philosoraptor ask "can one troll his own blog?"
Along with the fact that the comment in question was informative and not even close to trolling.
new moderation scheme, bloggers should use great discretion as to what they tag with a negative moderation. I understand why it was changed to the current format, but there are often really good posts that go unread because somebody disagrees with the point, not because the point is without merit or otherwise offense. Unless somebody really deserves it, objectively and not because you disagree, negs should be avoided at all costs.
I agree completely. This consequence is one of my biggest complaints against the current system for moderation. I've seen many sensible comments that have been minimized and greyed out not because of their content but because someone disagreed with them. It really takes away from honest discussion.
Maybe somebody could figure out a way to include a collapsable list that shows every username for each neg or upvote. It would provide transparency since people would know who you negged or upvoted.
Personally, I don't care if people know who I neg or upvote; in fact, I'll freely admit that I'm the one who moderated Brian's post as trolling. It's something I've done the past few times I've seen him post on the board. He should know better than to come down to the nether regions of MGoBlog.
This caused a little voice inside of me to say "Be spiteful and neg him." So far, I have resisted.
Just bring back the negbang. It was so much better then.
I agree. We could have sent moleskyn to Bolivia for that stupid thread about DG.
damn clicky fingers
It sucks enough to tear your ACL, but to not be able to redshirt because you played in one too many games REALLY sucks. Especially when it's THIS season, where if he hadn't played in their game vs Miami, it wouldn't have made a difference.
If OSU gets this season vacated too, then do the games that he played in still count? If not, could he redshirt via that loophole?
Ugh. Sounds like an Antonio Bass level of knee damage.
That dude got hurt in... 2007 or so and isn't due back until next season.
I noticed a GREAT poll over on the 11W site when I clicked on the link provided by Brian:
Question: How many touchdowns will OSU score this weekend?
Possible responses: 1, 2, 3 and more than 3. The two things that made me laugh were 1) no option provided for "0" and 2) that 10% of the votes cast were for 3 or more than 3 TD's scored.
If it's "everything else" as in PCL, MCL, etc. he can kiss his career goodbye nevermind the season.
I'm no doctor but that sounds like a career ending injury... feel bad for the kid.
Reed was on red shirt last year, and the rule is if you play in more than 30% of your teams games you burn the RS. Since he played in 5 and the most we can play is 14 (we'll be lucky to get #13) 5 means he's already over the limit (for the math challenged among us.)
He's already redshirted I believe last year.
You don't wish an injury on anyone.
The part about Herron and Posey is great though.
Anything less than the Death penalty to osu will be disappointment for me. New violations come out everyday against them - so there has to be many more 'secrets' in columbus as well.
I don't go to OSU boards, but the idea that "something has to change" because "there's too much money at stake for the university "is hard to get your arms around.
The thought process presumably runs something like this: Integrity? Whatevah. Ethics? Whatevah. Reputation? Whatevah. Hobbling the storied OSU football team, and potentially punishing uninvolved student athletes? Whatevah. Costing OSU money? Now that's serious!
Just to chime in as a rational OSU fan here:
I would think "it comes to down to money" would really be more along the lines of the infrastructures and the people in charge, AD, HC, compliance dept, etc. aren't going to change until it can be shown that it's costing them money to not change. They will continue to cover up or at least willfully turn a blind eye to violations, unless and until it makes more fiscal sense to catch cheaters than it does to allow them to exist.
Please stop with the death penalty talk. They won't get it and they don't deserve it either.
because without football, OSU would basically shut down (how does OSU find another ~$80 million in profit to offset operating expenses)?
Why don't they deserve it. Regardless of what has been proven, they have basically fostered a culture of breaking the rules ever since JT was hired. JT is still getting his full salary, and the AD/ President are chugging along. Did anyone even lose their job at tOSU? That's a big middle finger to the NCAA, and that's another reason they deserve it.
SMU was cheating while it was on probation, and there were university officials who were actively involved in paying players over a prolonged period of time. That was a program that had truly become corrupt to its core and totally fallen off the deep end.
I could see the ongoing Miami scandal approaching SMU territory, but not Ohio State. They deserve to be hammered, but death penalty? Not quite.
Agreed. The level of institutional corruption at OSU absolutely pales to what was going on at SMU. Gordon Gee is a clown, but he's not writing checks to the players with school letterhead. Probably. Miami is the only case out of the many that have come up in the past couple years where I think the death penalty should even be in the discussion - and even then if I were the discipline king I still wouldn't give it to them.
And we don't want them dead. Just humbled and weakened.
We will do more damage to their program on November 26 than the NCAA ever will.
We are literally going to sodomize them. We are going to have non-consensual sex with their faces and butts and then we're going for their wives and kids.
brakes there, guy. For a minute I thought it was Dark Blue posting.
It's a quote from "The League". I don't have that kind of...imagination?
You write the most beautiful prose.
Taking out Herron and Posey for the rest of the year makes sense. They have probably seen that their offense is going to suck no matter what since they dont have an able QB at the moment so they are going to try to save their future by just giving up on this year.
each new suspension and each painful loss will help in bringing Dunn to us?
Does second come after twelfth?? Gimme a break...
but as far as Boom and Posey goes . .
..aaaaand boom goes the dynamite
Can't wait to hear the reactions.
I feel bad for anyone who tears up their ACL.
That "no Herron or Posey ever again" talk, if confirmed, is huge. OSU would seriously be looking at no bowl game.
According to Fickell, at least publically, Posey and Herron are not getting booted.
… DeVier Posey and Boom Herron are still on the team, and Fickell said he hasn’t given thought to kicking them off the team as “it’s still under investigation.
Yeah, but Fickel not giving something thought is like me not peering through something with my X-ray vision. There is no information in saying that an impossible process has not happened.
Syntax, my friend. Syntax.
They may still be able to squeak into a bowl. They should beat Indiana and Purdue, and would have a decent shot to beat Penn State at home in a defensive struggle. They'll lose the others.
Hopefully Reed can recover and regain the full use of his knee.
I LOL'ed about the Posey/Herron comment too. Is your friend THAT out of touch with reality?
At Ohio State, you don't try to show the NCAA that you're serious about cleaning up the program. You just deny, deny, deny and then when you're caught again, you claim that rules are stupid and you shouldn't be punished for breaking them.
Or you blame individual players while claiming organizational innocence. Gene Smith is such a joke.
A decade or two absolute mediocrity and half empty horseshoes might help send a message across the CFB landscape.
Has anyone heard with any degree of accuracy when the NCAA will unleash the hammer on Ohio?
A Monday, November 21st announcement of the penalties would make for an interesting week-long lead-in to THE GAME. It may be wishful thinking but fun to consider nonetheless.
The sound of the giant sucking noise created from the mass exodus of new recruits from Cheatbus, OH would be second only to Frank Beckmann’s call of the final seconds of Michigan whipping Ohio’s ass, declaring the past seven years as some wicked nightmare, waking up to the dismantling (albeit self-inflicted) of the Bucknuts program.
I hope the NCAA doesn't decide anything until after NSD. It would be justice seeing as how tOSU knew about Tresselgate and waited until after NSD to release the information. Let them twist in the wind a while before you cut them down. Recruits won't come, neither will coaches with an uncertain future.
Good luck, Reed. and that DL guy for the Colts last night.
but I just found this comment on a news article from the plain dealer:
"Unbelievable ...... The NCAA has made it a witch hunt . No major violations ...repeat No major violations + no players arrested for anything ...just the selling of their own memorabilia for tattoos and the HC not reporting the minor infractions ...." minor Infractions " . Plus the QB Terrelle Pryor suspended for ( 5 ) in the NFL when he has committed no crimes whatsoever .... This is just unbelievable ! We have Senators and Congressmen and Wall Street Guru's stealing millions or even billions of dollars + Other Football programs cheating in recruiting + players involved in drugs and or sexual favors ...Not T OhioStateUniversity because the NCAA and ESPN have been in a witch hunt for almost 1 year and only minor infractions were found to be wrong . This isn't fair or justified ."
Their continued "woe is me" argument simply makes it more hilarious as to how oblivious they are to the corrupt program that they have been running. I just can't get over it.
Yup, they're pure as snow. Just a bunch of meanies at the NCAA out to get them, probably Michigan grads.
Ohio State is never going to live this Tressel era down.
But for the suspendees, there's really no excuse for this stuff, though because the football players all attend mandatory inservices/presentations from university athletics compliance teams about these no-no's and they get tons of guides in writing and are told to "read them" and ask questions.
The coaches need to then follow through.
I would accept that it's not easy to keep noses clean with all of these dumbass boosters lurkying around.
I feel very badly for Buckeyes WR Verlon Reed. He's a good player and the Buckeyes really need him. May he have a very fast recovery.
I wouldn't say never. We've almost lived down the Ed Martin scandal. It'll take a while (excellent) but they'll live it down in ohhhh 7-8 years.
That's too bad for Reed. Hopefully, he has an opportunity to play again once healed. As for Herron and Posey, if they care so little for their school and its reputation, then they really shouldn't play ever again.
Question, however - who is the seventh-string WR on their roster?
I kept reading his name as "Vernon Reid," and thought to myself, "Well, how important can an ACL injury be to a guitarist?"
Absolutely beautiful clip whoever put that in.... You have exquisite taste. Brian really ought to use that. Yeah the kittens are funny but this is war. Yessir 'smells like victory'. They are a bunch of cheaters. I wonder how Boren feels about his 'family values' now? And just a reminder gentlemen. ND can go fuck themselves. GO Blue!
In other bad OSU injury news. Apparently Scott McVey is about to get sent to St. Saban soon for his like third torn labrum. Source is a kid i play football with who went to St. Iggy