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More OSU drama
I don't know where it is, but it's not in Columbus.
"Three other Big Ten institutions -- Iowa, Michigan State and Michigan - said that it is OK for their compliance officers to get free dealer cars. The eight other schools, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin said that they do not allow it."
This practice will end for sure for all schools. Good thing
This is only drama because of everything else that's going on. It's not an actual thing. Note that the article said absolutely nothing about the practice other than the fact that some schools forbid it. This earns five "mehhhhhhhhs" out of five.
Well if Aaron Kniffin was hooking anyone up it would be something, otherwise yeah.
his free car (not included in a contract) by a former player and he's now supposed to make sure this former player doesn't give current players cars? This sounds stupid.
How is compliance supposed to enforce anything since they are getting the same benefits? This article goes to show one of the many reasons why the OSU compliance staff is corrupt.
Well, it's not against the rules for him to get this benefit. It IS against the rules for players to get free cars. Is he corrupt? Probably. But getting a free car is not one of the reasons why, according to the rulebook.
Seems like kind of a non-issue to me, although it may be bad in this situation considering the circumstances. While getting free cars isn't a huge deal, the whole free tickets thing may make the dealer a booster, and thus open a whole different can if worms.
I'm impressed by the endurance and energy shown by OSU at this point. Getting into a new scandal every day requires creativity. I am not even sure how they do it. How do they find the hours in the day necessary to get in trouble or do something awkward so often? You'd think they'd need a few days off every now and then, but no, they manage to get into mischief every single day. Truly awesome . . . .
I know quite a few athletic trainers that work for BCS schools. A number of them get free cars from a dealership. It is usually one that is a sponsor. I agree this is only somewhat of a story because of everything else.
I don't know, the article says Michigan allows their compliance officers to drive these kind of cars. I don't know if this is a big deal.
Sounds like a lot of school practice this. Although, I don't think it should be allowed. I say the University should lead by example. All it takes is a set of season tickets for this for OSU player to give up a car. Geez ... Pryor and the gang were handing out major bowl tickets and then some. No wonder they all had free cars.
Though is the car dealer is a former buckeye player who employs student-athletes providing a free ride to the compliance officer.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought scholarship athletes are not allowed to hold employeement during their elgibility? Isn't this one of the big arguments for pay-for-play, that this is their job?
with the Troy Smith case they had to prove that his job was an actual job that he showed up for and did something more strenuous than signing autographs.
They can have jobs, but its severely restricted and during the school year, they've already got a 50-60 hour work week.
There are strict rules (not that OSU pays attention to those type of things) but guys can work during the summer. It's not uncommon for local businesses (usually school alumni) to offer part-time, seasonal work to athletes. It used to be more prevalent, but with the whole Troy Smith/Rhett Bohmar situations, it's gotten a lot of scrutiny. It still happens though.
Regarding this article: I don't think the complimentary cars are the issue. The free season tickets may be a problem but I'm not positive.
I don't think i support this. It may cross the line. Free cars to anyone comes off shady..
Sorry for the double post.
the compliance office found nothing wrong with the kids car deals, it's exactly the same thing the compliance office does. This is starting to get confusing because, while embarrassing, compliance is allowed to do this, but players aren't. TSIO compliance is starting to look like the jeggings rule.
That might be interesting if it was from the same dealership the players may have gotten cars. Otherwise, this is the news station throwing poop and hoping it sticks.
Brandon Miller, longtime assistant to Thad Matta, just resigned. May be totally unrelated to the football situation, but the timing is odd.
Unrelated to all the shenanigans at OSU under investigation? Highly unlikely.
This shows that the local media is still hunting stories about OSU. That isn't good for them.
Or that they've run out of material. This smacks of a nice idea that shouldn't have gone to print.
I think this is the kind of thing that isn't going to be relevant to people on this board, people who can nearly quote NCAA rules off the tops of their heads, but I do think it's relevant to the casual observer. It's probably something that Michigan, OSU, etc. shouldn't do. It looks bad if nothing else.
Definitely agree on perception. It looks really bad for any public employee (which I'm pretty sure they qualify as) when they're accepting freebies.
The Columbus media are finally doing what they should have been doing at least since Woody Hayes got fired. THE Ohio State University has had a free pass from the local media for their cheating for way too long. It's as if 30 years of pent-up journalistic conscience is being released all at once in Columbus. It couldn't happen to a nicer school.
It's even better in comparison to the Wolverines. Michigan first had Jim Carty and then Michael Rosenberg try to bring their programs down. First the Ann Arbor News and then the Freep lied and misrepresented themselves to students to get dirt. They FOIA'd everthing except the penile dimensions of the coaching staff. And they found a bunch of general studies majors and 15 minutes of stretching.
Meanwhile, the press in Columbus have only been at it for two months or so, and haven't even lied to interviewees yet, and have found major violations up the wazoo: tats, cars, cash, drugs, and that may be just the beginning.
Life is good.
as one of the local Dispatch homers, Ken Gordon, is moving from Buckeye coverage to straight news per his blog post to have more time with his family.
and reminds me of this video (NSFW):
There's probably nothing shady here. However, it could make you question the voracity with which said compliance officers would investigate a player who also had dealings with that dealer. Particularly if that compliance officer had recommended the dealer to some players or their families as a great place to get a good deal on a car. Not that that's what happened, but I'm sure it could have. At the very least it's disingenuous for the compliance officers who investigate the players car deals to benefit by trading tickets to see those players for access to free cars.
Not a big deal in my eyes, this happens all the time in lots of Universitys. Just doesn't come off well right now with all the other things going on down there.
This is just getting ridiculous. It is one thing for OSU's compliance department to turn their heads when alot of the funny business was going on, but it's another thing when they are doing the same exact thing as the players are! How can the LOIC notice not be in the mail them? The whole athletic department from top to bottom is corrupt.
I think its only abig deal because of 2 reasons. First because of what is going on with the students and secondly because they gave season tickets in exchange. While other schools allow compliance officers to accept cars is it in exchange for season tickets? I do wish UM would halt allowing this as I don't think compliance officers should be accepting anything at all. They need to be even more above suspicion than anyone else in the program.
Are the season tickets autographed by TP?
doing during the economic downturn. Not saying anything is related, but it's interesting nonetheless considering the time frame.
That article is a prime example of trying to ride the wave of OSU-bashing for a couple of hits. Nothing to see there, IMHO.
Also, that article is pretty lackluster. Nothing detailed, nothing groundbreaking, and reading them constantly refer to themselves as "10 investigates" is irritating and exposes their inner Ohio.
Last time I checked he was born in the 80's, unless he has a father by the same name that also played at Ohio State?
Ugh...there were 2 Mike D'Andreas. Notice, this article says this Mike D'Andrea is from Akron. The one born in the 1980's is from Avon Lake.
With one of these things "?"
I am a Die Hard Michigan fan but I live in Ohio. To be honest I get a lot more news here then the rest of the country does about OSU. It is amazing to me how the media around here is willing to take down there own University. But ok then I will roll with it. I love the sharks circling. The news is always fresh here and never gets old to me! I just sit back and smile. And think to myself what fools your killing your team and much more! Gotta love it!!! If you are a Michigan fan. GO BLUE!
It's also annoying because all I hear are excuses. The news is starting to get watered down so I don't really even talk about it with fans anymore because when we thought they were coming off as arrogant and idiotic they were just beating a dead horse. We are getting to that part I think. I just want them to have their hearing and then let the Hoke era begin. It's stories like that this that annoy the piss out of me. There's nothing really there and people will get excited about it and try to throw it in an OSU fan's face, only to be made a fool for thinking this is going to have a drastic effect on the NCAA's decision.